Does the current AMD GPU price gouging effect your GPU purchasing?

[Devon68]

prices are driving me back to NVidia. I can pick up a 760 card for $240 or a 770 for $330 7950 is still like $400-500 usd. I would love to upgrade my 6950 to a 7970 but I am not going to pay 450-700 for the card. I missed out on r-t-b sale of his because wife wanted me to wait. So now I am considering either a 4gb 760 for 290 or a 2gb 770 for 330. For 40$ I am favoring the the 770 for less and about the same performance.

Yeah the 770 seems to be a better choice. The 4 gigs on the 760 are only good if using more than one monitor or playing games with tons of mods.

 

[Derek12]

Yes as I am looking for a R7 240

 

[NC37]

Nah. But I wouldn't buy this gen anyways. All old tech.

 

[FX-GMC]

Nah. But I wouldn't buy this gen anyways. All old tech.

Radeon R9 290[edit]
The Radeon R9 290 and R9 290X were announced on September 25, 2013.[10][11] The R9 290 is based on AMD's Hawaii Pro chip and R9 290X on Hawaii XT. R9 290 and R9 290X will support AMD's TrueAudio, Mantle, DirectX 11.2, and bridge-freeCrossfire technology using XDMA. A limited "Battlefield 4 Edition" pre-order bundle of R9 290X that includes Battlefield 4 will be available on October 3, 2013, with reported initial quantity being 8,000 units, deposits will have to be made for the purchase as the price will not be revealed for some time even after the pre-orders begin. R9 290X features 2816 Stream Processors, 176 TMUs, 64 ROPs, 512-bit wide buses, 44 compute units and 8 ACE units. The R9 290X has a launch price of $549.[12] As of February 2014, it is selling for $899.99 and up.[13] The R9 290 had a launch price of $399. As of February 2014, it is selling for $639.99 and up.[14]

Something released ~5 months ago is old?

My computer must be ancient.

 

[the54thvoid]

Something released ~5 months ago is old?

My computer must be ancient.

He probably means GK110 and the Tahiti based GCN cards. Truly, only Hawaii based GCN (and the GTX 750 & 750ti) are 'new'.

 

[FX-GMC]

He probably means GK110 and the Tahiti based GCN cards. Truly, only Hawaii based GCN (and the GTX 750 & 750ti) are 'new'.

Maybe. I was just going by what he said. "All old tech." Mostly old tech I would agree with.

 

[RejZoR]

He probably means GK110 and the Tahiti based GCN cards. Truly, only Hawaii based GCN (and the GTX 750 & 750ti) are 'new'.

Maybe by the name, but my HD7950 is exactly the same as R9-280. They just changed the name of it in BIOS and repackaged it. So new gen was actually old on a release day. Lol. And R9-290 price is ridiculous. I always tend to buy AMD's second fastest card available (befor i had HD4850 and HD4870, HD5850, then HD6950 and now HD7950), but with prices of R9-290, it makes very little sense. Maybe R9-390 next time... Having HD7950 overclocked as high as i have, i think it comes pretty close if not faster than R9-290 series anyway...

 

[FX-GMC]

Maybe by the name, but my HD7950 is exactly the same as R9-280. They just changed the name of it in BIOS and repackaged it. So new gen was actually old on a release day. Lol. And R9-290 price is ridiculous. I always tend to buy AMD's second fastest card available (befor i had HD4850 and HD4870, HD5850, then HD6950 and now HD7950), but with prices of R9-290, it makes very little sense. Maybe R9-390 next time... Having HD7950 overclocked as high as i have, i think it comes pretty close if not faster than R9-290 series anyway...

Yes, that is exactly what @the54thvoid and I were talking about.

No, it's not close or faster than the Hawaii chips [R9-290(x)]

 

[xenocide]

Yeah the 770 seems to be a better choice. The 4 gigs on the 760 are only good if using more than one monitor or playing games with tons of mods.

Even in those situations, the extra processing power of the 770 outweighs having slightly more VRAM.

 

[cadaveca]

I bought new VGAs retail a couple of weeks ago. These cost me less than R9 290's would, so I HAVE to answer yes:

I wanted to buy AMD cards, but they just are too expensive. The cost of electricity here makes using GPUs for mining a losing proposition, otherwise my house would be filled with rigs....it's winter and I need heat, and PCs can make that heat! However, I end up paying about $60 a month in power for just one PC....and it doesn't run 100% 24/7.


So now, I have nothing AMD-built or designed in my personal rig. And at this point, can't say I have much interest in anything AMD has other than APUs...and those are stilla bit under-powered.

 

[bubbleawsome]

It did. I'm an AMD guy bordering on fanboy, and I do a ton of openCL compute, but I couldn't afford a 280x, and the 270x wasn't enough. Went with a GTX 770 and I got lucky. Nearly 1350 at stock.

 

[Jetster]

Yes, and I don't get this hole fanboy thing. Okay I understand it a little. I buy the best performance for the price I can at the time for the game I need. It mostly has been AMD. But this time Nvidia wins. With GTX780 at $500 and the R9 290 at $650 its an easy choice

 

[Vario]

Saw a PNY XLR8 770 2GB for $309.99 free shipping on Amazon.com. Pulled the trigger on it while it was still in stock. I am going to sell my 7970 while the LTC still remains viable. Bought this 7970 at $275 or something. I should make $80 and get rid of a RMA'd card.

 

[Steevo]

Really, the title should be. How many pages before a flame war erupts since there is a somewhat misleading title, and a easy to see attempt to start one?


A really good alternate title might be.

How has the current GPU pricing altered your upgrade decisions?

or

Has Litecoin mining on AMD GPU's ruined their chances at getting a new card into your system?

or

Do you agree with retailer price gouging on AMD GPU's with the current Litecoin demand?

or

How do you feel the market will react with the lack of price competitive GPU's due to the Litecoin effect?



Being completely fair this has set the stage for Nvidia to release slightly better cards and maintain what we before were calling overpriced performance, so really status quo has not changed other than AMD is selling all the top end cards and making the same amount, retailers are creating an artificial supply issue by inflating prices in the US only, and we the gaming community suffer.

 

[lilhasselhoffer]

You had me up until point 3.

While I understand the idea behind your comment, I can't say I agree. Saying that a 69xx GPU is good enough for single 2560.1440/1600 isn't true at all, and that holds true through the 79xx cards. At times even my R9 290 will give a drop in FPS in certain games.
...

You have a point, and it might just be that my perspective is different. If you've got a 69xx series you've paid somewhere between $200 and $400. Let's ballpark the current value somewhere around $150 (between wear and replacement by the 79xx series). Let's assume that you could get a buyer for the old card at that value, and that you'd only pay $500 for a 290 series card (they waiver between 400-600 depending upon sources and if you buy the x version). That difference is $350 that you'd have to pony up. For that kind of cost, I'd expect a performance increase at a minimum of 20% on all levels.

The 290 series doesn't deliver that kind of performance, across all levels. It will beat the pants off of the 79xx series at high resolution, but I indicated that in my previous statement. At high resolution, the upgrade makes sense, but if you're just running the system and looking for an upgrade now it makes no sense. As you said, the Crossfiring of two older cards is the way to go. In some instances you don't get the performance, but it's not impossible to slide the settings down slightly for a few months. An 80% solution today at 0% of the cost is better than a 95% solution at 200% the cost. With a little patience, that cost drops down to 80%, and you get to reap the rewards of the mining bubble bust.

 

[Lionheart]

The effect in price has kind of held me back but I'm still going to get a R9 290..... Most likely

 

[eidairaman1]

this doesnt affect me at all- im currently piecing together a machine, however its not AMD gouging the prices its the retailers who are, amd just isnt stepping in and putting a price cap on it, but what company would if their products are selling like hotcakes? You dont see Intel telling companies to stop selling their cpus so high in price do ya

 

[leeb2013]

yes,, because having been satisfied with my two 7950 iceq which I got for $230AUD I'm now having to contemplate selling them for a small profit and getting a single 780. But then I want to see what Maxwell brings, but that won't be until later this year, by which time my 7950 will be back to <$200!

Beside, I don't believe AMD have increased the price, it's the retailers.

 

[xenocide]

this doesnt affect me at all- im currently piecing together a machine, however its not AMD gouging the prices its the retailers who are, amd just isnt stepping in and putting a price cap on it, but what company would if their products are selling like hotcakes? You dont see Intel telling companies to stop selling their cpus so high in price do ya

Intel's CPU's have stayed around the MSRP, AMD's GPU's have not. It has to be due partially to supply and demand. If Newegg/Amazon/TigerDirect/etc. don't have a ton of these cards because people are buying them all up, why wouldn't they price them up? At least the climb has been stabilizing a bit. Weren't there 290X's going for like $750 a couple weeks ago???

 

[RejZoR]

Mining virtual coins is the biggest waste of worlds resources ever. Computing an useless data to gain money. That's like shuffling manure from one pile to another 1 meter away and get paid for it. People so obsessed about it, maybe it made tiny bit of sense at the beginning, but now it's just pointless. When it will reach a point where you won't be able to make profit of it people will just stop doing it and no one will care.

 

[Nordic]

Mining virtual coins is the biggest waste of worlds resources ever. Computing an useless data to gain money. That's like shuffling manure from one pile to another 1 meter away and get paid for it. People so obsessed about it, maybe it made tiny bit of sense at the beginning, but now it's just pointless. When it will reach a point where you won't be able to make profit of it people will just stop doing it and no one will care.

1)Do you know what mining is? It is the process in which transactions are processed and recorded. This is just like visa's servers, and the rest of the financial system, except it is public. So the data is not useless because it is a record.

2)People do seem to be a bit obsessed with it sometimes but I see that as a good thing. This passion will push it till it can stand on its own, and its almost there. The system is built well. Bring in a ton of profit hoarders in the beginning to push the system into existence. Then keep enough incentive (read profit) to maintain the system. By then the system should have enough momentum to walk on its own legs, if not it should rightfully fail.

3)You also seem to say that the profit will run dry. I can tell you that is wrong. There will always be a profit, but we wont be in the gold rush conditions we are in now. There are transaction fees, which go to the miners. The system is built is very sound, refer to 2.

 

[JC316]

Yeah, it's definitely going to affect me, I'm considering upgrading, but no way in hell am I buying an AMD card for $100+ more than what it retailed for when it first arrived. Especially when they can't compete with lower priced and better performing Nvidia cards. When I go to pull the trigger, if the AMD cards are competitive on price and performance, I will go with them, if not, I will go Nvidia.

 

[RejZoR]

1)Do you know what mining is? It is the process in which transactions are processed and recorded. This is just like visa's servers, and the rest of the financial system, except it is public. So the data is not useless because it is a record.

2)People do seem to be a bit obsessed with it sometimes but I see that as a good thing. This passion will push it till it can stand on its own, and its almost there. The system is built well. Bring in a ton of profit hoarders in the beginning to push the system into existence. Then keep enough incentive (read profit) to maintain the system. By then the system should have enough momentum to walk on its own legs, if not it should rightfully fail.

3)You also seem to say that the profit will run dry. I can tell you that is wrong. There will always be a profit, but we wont be in the gold rush conditions we are in now. There are transaction fees, which go to the miners. The system is built is very sound, refer to 2.

I am well aware of what mining is and it certainly isn't a transaction. It's a data crunching just like Folding Grid or Folding@home. Except those actually make productive medical results and coin mining just produces meaningless numbers from calculated data that are valued at some equivalent in regular money and can be spend on something else.

 

[R-T-B]

I am well aware of what mining is and it certainly isn't a transaction. It's a data crunching just like Folding Grid or Folding@home. Except those actually make productive medical results and coin mining just produces meaningless numbers from calculated data that are valued at some equivalent in regular money and can be spend on something else.

It IS a transaction by definition. Albeit, the transaction system is done in something called a merkle tree, which is intentionally VERY hard to compute. Successfully computing a block both enables transactions, and rewards the miners.

 

[AsRock]

Was in the market for a 290X but not until the prices drop back down... I can wait might even pay off for the better in the end, never know 390X on 20nm HA!.

I have considered a nVidia card and for more than one reason i just don't want one.