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dram vs less for gaming and software

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hey guys how are you all ? :)

for my main boot i will go with a dram cache ssd for sure (kc3000 that i have right now)

but for games i guess that i don't need a dram cache nvme , but what about installing softwares ?

and how do i choose the right dram less nvme for me ?

thanks guys :)
 
I'm of the opinion that DRAM vs. DRAMless is an irrelevant argument in the age of NVMe. It doesn't change a thing. Prefer more capacity and better quality NAND instead.

If I simplify it any further, it means "buy a SN850X and call it a day. if you can't afford that, then buy a SN770 and call it a day."

correct me if im wrong but i could go with tlc one or hmb that are dram less
and QLC to avoid ofc

No hard rule to "avoid" QLC, they work just fine. It's that they can be slower in certain read/write operations, but again, doubt you'll feel a thing for a gaming drive. their low cost more than makes up for the rest. and yes, HMB are dramless (HMB stands for host memory buffer)
 
correct me if im wrong but i could go with tlc one or hmb that are dram less
If it's not your OS/boot drive, then yeah no worries. If it's your OS/Boot drive, DRAMless can cause issues. For the extra $5 or $10 it's completely worth it unless you're on a strict budget.

I'm of the opinion that DRAM vs. DRAMless is an irrelevant argument in the age of NVMe.
Like many thing in tech, it depends. For an OS drive, DRAM makes a big difference.
No hard rule to "avoid" QLC, they work just fine.
I have had three QLC based drives from my personal collection die in as many years. I have had no TLC based drives fail in the last 5. I have a lot of SSD's. QLC should be avoided unless it was made by a top brand in the last 12 months. Even then, using it as a boot drive is a fools game.
 
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If it's not your OS/boot drive, then yeah no worries. If it's your OS/Boot drive, DRAMless can cause issues. For the extra $5 or $10 it;s completely worth it unless you're on a strict budget.


Like many thing in tech, it depends. For an OS drive, DRAM makes a big difference.

I have had three QLC based drives from my personal collection die in as many years. I have had no TLC based drives fail in the last 5. I have a lot of SSD's. QLC should be avoided unless it was made by a top brand in the last 12 months. Even then, using it as a boot drive is a fools game.
I went again to the top lol but i did mentioned that i have already a 2tb kc3000 and it will go as my main boot drive

but which nvme dram less i should get
i need only 1tb i think
 
For OS / Boot then DRAM makes sense. However, a good DRAM Less SSD can also be fine. As an example I am using all WD SN770s with no problems 2x 2TB 1x 1TB and i have a generic dramless 1 TB for overflow storage all with no hiccups or problems. For gaming the pure performance aspect is heavily out of touch with reality. Whats needed vs marketing vs leet speak bs is all over the place.

A good mid tier dramless SSD is more than capable for gaming.

Ive had decent luck with

Teamgroup T-Force G50

Klevv CRAS C925

Western Digital SN7100

WesternDigital SN770

all have worked exceptionally well with no complaints. Not only in personal systems but in numerous client builds as well.
 
I went again to the top lol but i did mentioned that i have already a 2tb kc3000 and it will go as my main boot drive
Oh! I think I misunderstood your OP then. Sorry about that.

but which nvme dram less i should get
i need only 1tb i think
If you're doing it as a mass storage/game install drive, as long as it's from a good quality brand you should have a good experience with anything. For example(and I'm not sure where you live);

All of these are TLC DRAMless drives and are under $60 USD.
 
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Cost-wise, is that much more expensive for a DRAM cache drive? For gaming because all SSDs are so fast, were are limited by the CPU decompression and CPU 3-D world setup time. Not really drive read speeds anymore.
 
if its really 10$ differ so why not to go with cache and that's it haha ?
I would. But that's me. There's also the idea of a DRAMless 2TB drive.
For less than double the price you get double the space.
All less than $100USD. Just food for thought. SSD prices are decent ATM.
 
There is no hard rule to these things because something that often gets overlooked is that while inferior drives have inferior results, they also cost less and not all use cases will be ones where those lower results matter. So sometimes the tradeoff has merit.

It's easy to just get a high end drive and call it a day but that's not always necessary... especially for a games drive of all things. Maybe the year of DirectStorage eventually, finally happens on a large scale and changes this, but as of today, it doesn't matter for most games. DRAM or a lack of it doesn't make a difference with read performance; only with write performance. Most of gaming will be reads. For the same reason, you're unlikely to wear them out (DRAM also adds to longevity).

How good a drive is comes down to many things, not simply if it has DRAM or not. There aren't really real world examples of "the same drive with and without DRAM" so it tends to be hard to isolate exactly, as drives without DRAM also tend to be lower end in other ways (QLC instead of TLC, lower SLC cache portion, slower controllers, etc.). This is also a bit of a holdover from the early SATA days, where drives without DRAM were really horrible. It still matters, but less so on NVMe.

One relatively minor mention that I'll make is that with Steam in particular, some drives that are generally performant but lack DRAM seem to slow way down during the initial download and installation process. The workaround is to download it to another drive, even an HDD instead, and then move it over. If you want to rule that out, no matter what, maybe give a thought to DRAM.
 
Boot drives should be DRAMcache-equipped. They'll last longer w/ the cache mitigating write amplification, and will be more responsive in day-to-day use.

Game/Program NVMEs can (generally) be 'just whatever'. Even, a mere DRAMless SATA SSD is a massive upgrade over an HDD for game and program load times.
There are a list of exceptions, and some titles that immensely benefit from a faster NVME but, one should probably be more concerned with capacity and reliability.
 
I'm of the opinion that DRAM vs. DRAMless is an irrelevant argument in the age of NVMe. It doesn't change a thing. Prefer more capacity and better quality NAND instead.

If I simplify it any further, it means "buy a SN850X and call it a day. if you can't afford that, then buy a SN770 and call it a day."



No hard rule to "avoid" QLC, they work just fine. It's that they can be slower in certain read/write operations, but again, doubt you'll feel a thing for a gaming drive. their low cost more than makes up for the rest. and yes, HMB are dramless (HMB stands for host memory buffer)
QLC is perfect if you really want ssd drive for VERY OLD pc.
 
anyone that cant justify the difference between TLC and QLC, why upgrade at all? save up and get something proper, cheap never pays off (vs value).
for those with tlc, haven't seen any difference in perf thats enough to justify worrying about it, but i just stick with those offering slc cache, or at least got recommended by major sites like guru3d or tpu.
 
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