Firefall

[newconroer]

if i hade a dime every player said something like that xD (they aren't worthless at all, only player who can't do anything else than popping turrets and AFK'ing thumping and can't adapt say Bast are worthless now)
what 2 minutes duration turret is not enough? ... nerfbat: nonsense, its more dynamical as it is now ... at last the Bastion is no more a lazy bums easy mode frame

Equally right back at you, we'd all get rich when 'good' players pull the elitism card and say anyone who criticizes, is of lesser skill or "lazy."
There never seems to be any meeting in the middle. AFK and getting experience is kinda cool if you NEED to be afk, but then so is 'rested experience' found in so many games now. What I'm more concerned about is that turrets - the staple foundation of the 'defensive' feature that makes Bastion what it is, have been turned into something quite weak with little robustness.
Whether you are lazy or not, they've simple crippled the core of the class.

tho FF devs could do something inteligent : nerfing only PVP stats and letting PVE untainted... if pvp'er want to cry over "how OP is a frame" then they can but as long as it doesn't affect PVE

This was one of the things Red 5 said they would give respect to, and it attracted me to Firefall based on that principle alone. However along the way I think they reneged on that in some places. You see a lot PVE features being reduced and have to ask yourself, exactly whose gaming experience was being jeopardized because that feature was too powerful?

PS there is a racing start point in Dredge now ... maybe they re added races, and also yep the LGV on screen look like a beta Cy not the race one who is like the P-1 now, also the XLR is physically blue (color) it seems

Mine is red and called 'LGV race Cobra' "LGV for a race"


Hotfix today says that "

• Players will now receive an error message with a specific reason when they cannot place a market listing."

I was looking forward to this as I keep trying to sell purple items and they get shoved back into my inventory with a different name -transaction page shows they are not active.
Be nice to find out why..except this happens :

 

[GreiverBlade]

Equally right back at you, we'd all get rich when 'good' players pull the elitism card and say anyone who criticizes, is of lesser skill or "lazy."
There never seems to be any meeting in the middle. AFK and getting experience is kinda cool if you NEED to be afk, but then so is 'rested experience' found in so many games now. What I'm more concerned about is that turrets - the staple foundation of the 'defensive' feature that makes Bastion what it is, have been turned into something quite weak with little robustness.
Whether you are lazy or not, they've simple crippled the core of the class.

well i kinda understand your point, yet the Bastion is equally playable in pve (albeit a bit more dynamic due to the pvp nerf hammer they got in the face) but i did all the mission from 1 to 7 solo with a bastion without having to worry about the turrets i find it more attractive to play now (imho ofc) and nope i am not elitist but rationalist and realist

ofc if you criticize the Bastion (which didn't happen as you said "i heard they were useless now" )i would not call you lazy or lesser skill i am not like that and you are surely not the average Bastion user i used to see back in beta

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Bastion is one of my highest leveled frames because of how often I used it in the beta. I never AFK thumped because I picked thumpers that would fill without exploding. Bastion would allow me to go one or two thumpers higher than other frames because of its ability to target many, separated enemies.

 

[GreiverBlade]

Bastion is one of my highest leveled frames because of how often I used it in the beta. I never AFK thumped because I picked thumpers that would fill without exploding. Bastion would allow me to go one or two thumpers higher than other frames because of its ability to target many, separated enemies.

^This is definitely not our average Bastion user, as you use a higher thumper than you could with other class, unlike some does.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

I can't say I ever saw someone with a bastion AFK thump. I did see exploit thumping though quite often and that wasn't limited to any frame.

 

[newconroer]

well i kinda understand your point, yet the Bastion is equally playable in pve (albeit a bit more dynamic due to the pvp nerf hammer they got in the face) but i did all the mission from 1 to 7 solo with a bastion without having to worry about the turrets i find it more attractive to play now (imho ofc) and nope i am not elitist but rationalist and realist
Well I may be bad at it, you never know!

ofc if you criticize the Bastion (which didn't happen as you said "i heard they were useless now" )i would not call you lazy or lesser skill i am not like that and you are surely not the average Bastion user i used to see back in beta

Bastion is one of my highest leveled frames because of how often I used it in the beta. I never AFK thumped because I picked thumpers that would fill without exploding. Bastion would allow me to go one or two thumpers higher than other frames because of its ability to target many, separated enemies.

Have you played it since the recent big patch? What is your impression now?

 

[GreiverBlade]

Have you played it since the recent big patch? What is your impression now?

still like it (i am playing on a 4-6 hrs a day basis actually )

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Have you played it since the recent big patch? What is your impression now?

I haven't, no. Considering the lion's share of XP comes from jobs these days, I can really only see using Bastion for thumping which I don't very often.

 

[GreiverBlade]

Considering the lion's share of XP comes from jobs these days,

i rarely do jobs .... more often BWA/antarctica/Zephyr/OCT (mission 6-7-8 and the world event of Sertao) to lvl up, last weird idea was to do OCT with my Bastion lvl 22 (31-32 zone) i prefer getting 75-100k at once than doing multiple jobs at 25-40k

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Are you telling me XP doesn't scale with higher level jobs? It's always 25-40K?

BWA and Antarctica takes a long time unless you go with a full squad.

 

[GreiverBlade]

Are you telling me XP doesn't scale with higher level jobs? It's always 25-40K?

BWA and Antarctica takes a long time unless you go with a full squad.

oh for ares mission and nado i get rounded down XP yes ... antarctica doesnt take me too long, unlike BWA, hum jobs the only i did at 25 in Dredge where 25/40k iirc well i might be wrong but i prefer running around and do random ares and even like in the good ol' time

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Yeah, I do too but there are some story elements you have to do jobs to see. One of them I think was 8 parts covering virtually all of Coral Forest.

 

[newconroer]

I did enough Black Water back when you had to unlock it with the crafted (thingies), and you got that through SIN tower defense turnins which came from vouchers(?) as a reward for random ARES missions.

Ugh. I've just read this post and thought, holy sh1t that's exactly how I feel about Firefall.

http://forums.firefallthegame.com/c...the-rush-mentality-never-enough-time.4775721/

Oh and they talk about the 'Christmas transparent' markers, you know that allow you to see Xray through objects. Do you know how to disable those! I can't stand them!

 

[FordGT90Concept]

It's SIN marking. I don't know why you'd want to disable it because it allows for you to target something that may not be easy to see. I only use it for tornadoes and highlighting extra difficult enemies like Terraclaws that other players may not be aware of.

It isn't X-ray. It's like GPS targeting in reality.


I'm not finding anything I really agree with in that post. I only do ARES missions these days that is en route to another objective.

 

[GreiverBlade]

I'm not finding anything I really agree with in that post. I only do ARES missions these days that is en route to another objective.

exactly my thought ... also i rarely arrive late on a random ARES ... unless it's a bugged leader type mission but i am lucky enough to not fall on them too often

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Still can't believe they haven't fixed that yet. FFS they could just check if targets are inside the target area every minute and move if not.

 

[GreiverBlade]

Still can't believe they haven't fixed that yet. FFS they could just check if targets are inside the target area every minute and move if not.

well i ran less and less unto them ... recently so maybe they did fix them ... can't really tell

and now that i have "upgraded" my main rig ... i have a rock stable 60fps+ in crowded zone (even OCT well never under 52 i shall say)

Edit: I WANT ONE! preferably modded into a mobilehome

 

[stinger608]

Okay, what the hell? Try to log in and it says that the user name or password is not correct. So, try to create an account and of course it says the account with the email address already exists......So, try to create another account with a different email address and the game does nothing! Click the "create" button and nothing at all happens.
Running this through Steam. Anyone else having similar issues?

 

[FordGT90Concept]

I just logged into the game without problems. Maybe it has been fixed since you tried?

Edit: I wasn't logged in for a minute and got kicked out with a "connection problem."

 

[GreiverBlade]

Okay, what the hell? Try to log in and it says that the user name or password is not correct. So, try to create an account and of course it says the account with the email address already exists......So, try to create another account with a different email address and the game does nothing! Click the "create" button and nothing at all happens.
Running this through Steam. Anyone else having similar issues?

steam login has issues : launch Firefall directly or DL the client using the website. (afaik there was a warning just right side of the login input zone in my launcher,but now it isn't there anymore, i don't use steam i have no problems )

hum US shard might have some network problem, EU i have still under 42ms (sidenote: the intel lan ... < atheros ... under 42 versus 60~ previously )

 

[RCoon]

Just started this game two days ago, no idea what I'm going, got to level 6 and crafted some turrets for my engineer frame (ill call them frames because it reminds me of warframe), and my "distressed father" quest bugged so I had to do it twice. Tutorial-wise, it's not so great. I ended up crafting on a whim, and still have no idea how the crafting of A,B, etc battle gear thing research works or what it does. Also, how in the hell do you get research points? Mine seemed to materialise out of nowhere. Did my first thump (without the game telling me how the hell that worked either), and got a bunch of iron. About 20 players converged on my thumper and helped me for no reason though, that was cool.#

Also lots of French people in chat.

 

[GreiverBlade]

(ill call them frames because it reminds me of warframe)

well they are shortened as frames or B-frames by some.

Also lots of French people in chat.

you are on EU shard (indeed ... UK) well i rarely see french on the zone chat ... mostly english and quite often what i call "Russian Invasion" (i know ... that's rude of me)

Did my first thump (without the game telling me how the hell that worked either), and got a bunch of iron. About 20 players converged on my thumper and helped me for no reason though, that was cool.#

since they get a share of XP and resource, indeed player help for thump and random ares (even jobs sometime)

Also, how in the hell do you get research points? Mine seemed to materialise out of nowhere.

you get them by recycling(salvaging) items, that remind me that i have over 1'000'000 RP and no use for it ... i prefer buy from the market or drop my gears (i convert every crystites i get into credits, minus the repair cost, between OCT/BWA runs/Ares missions/jobs )

and my "distressed father" quest bugged so I had to do it twice. Tutorial-wise, it's not so great. I ended up crafting on a whim, and still have no idea how the crafting of A,B, etc battle gear thing research works or what it does.

yeah .... they could improve a bit on that side ... (don't forget to report issues, who know ... they might correct what's wrong soon(tm) )

 

[RCoon]

well they are shortened as frames or B-frames by some.


you are on EU shard (indeed ... UK) well i rarely see french on the zone chat ... mostly english and quite often what i call "Russian Invasion" (i know ... that's rude of me)


since they get a share of XP and resource, indeed player help for thump and random ares (even jobs sometime)


you get them by recycling(salvaging) items, that remind me that i have over 1'000'000 RP and no use for it ... i prefer buy from the market or drop my gears (i convert every crystites i get into credits, minus the repair cost, between OCT/BWA runs/Ares missions/jobs )


yeah .... they could improve a bit on that side ... (don't forget to report issues, who know ... they might correct what's wrong soon(tm) )

In the research list, there is the battleframe research section. I noticed there are A, B, C, D all the way to H or something about Battleframe types, what are those pieces of research?

 

[FordGT90Concept]

A = Assault
B = Biotech
D = Dreadnaught
E = Engineer
R = Recon

 

[GreiverBlade]

A : Assault B: Biotech other ... hum not ingame atm but it should be the 1st letter of each B-Frames type (accord and advanced) IIRC ... i check that as soon as i unbox my freshly arrived delivery (nostalgiaaaaa)