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Firefox AND Thunderbird version number inflation - your thoughts

Is Mozilla off their rocker?

  • No, I think it's the right direction for them to go.

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#1
I just got updated to Thunderbird version 5 today. I WAS on 3.1.11. This is fucking ridiculous! Jumping that many version numbers is completely unwarranted, IMO it's just so they can get parity with Firefox. Now Thunderbird is at parity with Firefox, I have a niggling suspicion that they might make a move toward another Mozilla Application Suite. Not that I'd mind, I'd actually rather like that (MAS was what got me into Firefox in the first place).

I just think that all this version number inflation is going to succeed in doing is alienating their core users. I find it rather insulting that they feel the need to wow us with higher version numbers just to "keep up" with the competition.
 
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#2
Who cares? it could jump to thunderbird 41242342423423, if it works then ill use it.
 

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Meh, Might try FF5 on my laptop. otherwise im still on good old 3.6.18 with my favorite themes and extensions - no 'catch-up' needed
 

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Don't care my self. They not started the BS with Seamonkey yet lol.
 
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#5
I don't think a version number can be "insulting" or see how it would result in anyone "alienating their core users". I suspect Mozilla cares more about the version numbers than 99% of users, yourself excluded, do.
 
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#6
Ha ha you can patch addons using this method:

save the add-on .xpi to your desktop you must navigate to the addons page (not using the addon browser, but going to the ff addons site) and right click on the download button>save as> save the xpi file then:
rename the .xpi to .zip
open the zip and extract the install.rdf
open the install.rdf with any text editor
find 4.0.* could be any version number
edit to 5.0.*
save and put back in zip overwriting the original and save zip
rename .zip back to .xpi
open firefox and "install add-on from file" find modified .xpi

now you'd follow the procedure I've noted above to get those addons to work.
 
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and I'm also using the 8.0 nightly x64 version and I got all my addons to work!
 

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save the add-on .xpi to your desktop you must navigate to the addons page (not using the addon browser, but going to the ff addons site) and right click on the download button>save as> save the xpi file then:
rename the .xpi to .zip
open the zip and extract the install.rdf
open the install.rdf with any text editor
find 4.0.* could be any version number
edit to 5.0.*
save and put back in zip overwriting the original and save zip
rename .zip back to .xpi
open firefox and "install add-on from file" find modified .xpi
Make a program to do that. I would, but I don't have an XPI file to play with. :p


All browsers especially are jumping through version numbers quickly because of all the competition. It's not just IE and Mozilla anymore (Opera was always a footnote XD). Recently, the rapid increase has been due to hardware acceleration of website rendering as well as support for HTML5 (which changes every month it seems like).
 
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#9
Its a bit ridiculous, imagine if windows made SP updates full new releases you'd be kinda annoyed right?
 
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#10
Make a program to do that. I would, but I don't have an XPI file to play with. :p


All browsers especially are jumping through version numbers quickly because of all the competition. It's not just IE and Mozilla anymore (Opera was always a footnote XD). Recently, the rapid increase has been due to hardware acceleration of website rendering as well as support for HTML5 (which changes every month it seems like).
I want to! but I can't code :(
 

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#12
Voted "I don't care" since I don't care. :laugh:

@Red_Machine: Do you have a PSP? Do you think moving very quickly through firmwares where the only changes made were "general improvements in performance" and "resolved certain issues" is a problem?
 

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No XPI files to play with. Someone would have to send me one, describe how they are found, and be a guinea pig. XD
 

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its really not hard... all firefox addons are xpi's just go download some
 
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Opera FTW
 
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Ha ha you can patch addons using this method:

save the add-on .xpi to your desktop you must navigate to the addons page (not using the addon browser, but going to the ff addons site) and right click on the download button>save as> save the xpi file then:
rename the .xpi to .zip
open the zip and extract the install.rdf
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find 4.0.* could be any version number
edit to 5.0.*
save and put back in zip overwriting the original and save zip
rename .zip back to .xpi
open firefox and "install add-on from file" find modified .xpi

now you'd follow the procedure I've noted above to get those addons to work.
It's much easier if you use an archive utility that let's you edit files inside the archive - IZArc for example.

Then open the xpi file in IZArc, edit the rdf, save and you're done.

However some of the xpi's use names that look like registry keys. In that case, you will have to peruse the sqlite extensions database to try to figure out which one goes with which extension.
 
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I voted i don't care for the simple fact there are more important things in life to think about than a stupid version number. As long as the program works we don't care 1 bit.
 
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@Red_Machine: Do you have a PSP? Do you think moving very quickly through firmwares where the only changes made were "general improvements in performance" and "resolved certain issues" is a problem?
I do, and I use custom firmware, so that's not an issue for me.
 
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It's just marketing... ridiculous I think (and voted) but marketing...
 
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I do, and I use custom firmware, so that's not an issue for me.
Did you stick with just one CFW, update your CFW regularly, or are you using a perma-CFW?
 
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Well, I'm the kind of person who likes to keep up-to-date, but there is a priority as to what gets updated. I tend to jump versions on things like the PSP.
 
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I tend to jump versions on things like the PSP.
Why complain then about the Firefox and Thunderbird version numbers? :laugh:

It's like the "big leap" from 6.20 to 6.35 for CFWs. There were some 6.30/31 but they were quickly forgotten because 6.35 OFW followed almost immediately (and of course the CFWs for it as well).
 
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It's just a number change, who gives a crap.

If they feel it makes the average user more likely to use their browser than that's cool.

It's also a damn cheap way of making people think your working harder.
 
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No XPI files to play with. Someone would have to send me one, describe how they are found, and be a guinea pig. XD
go to AMO and download one! (the offcial add-ons site)

and instead of clicking the download button right click and save as on it.....
 
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#25
IF everyone is going to get there pants or knickers in a twist over a bloody version number then you realy do have sad lifes, its a number get over it and grow up, stop stressing yourselfs out for no reason lol life is more important. I'd rather go have a curry with friends than moan about a stupid number.