Frametime spikes and stuttering after switching to AMD CPU?

[RJARRRPCGP]

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Those are bugs in Windows, since NT5, especially XP. (Same message or very similar)
I honestly don't know why this issue is still so widespread.

Those are not I/O errors and are not symptoms of faulty hardware or unstable OC.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

I tested the RX 9060 xt, i still had stutters in some games it was better CS2 for example i still had stutters but less, it was the same with the gtx 1060 GPU utilization was at 80-90% minimum, my 3070 sits at around 50 in cs2 that probably explains why it is smoother with the other 2 cards?

The problem with the 9060 xt is it has some major issues in CS2 FPS wise overall my fps were horrible with this cards, but since i still have stutters i dont think this is a GPU issue i could be wrong though

RDNA4 isnt very good in CS2 compared to Nvidia right now but in the other games you play should be fine.

I do find it interesting that the 1060/9060XT are smoother than the 3070 that could be the Hotspot issue giving you erratic clocks original I thought it was becuase the 1060 was so much slower but outside of CS2 the 9060XT should give you comparable performance to the 3070 the higher the base performance the more obvious stuttering issue will be jfyi.

Low GPU usage only means that the cpu or another component in the system is the bottleneck test a gpu demanding game and as long as you hit 95-100% usage in it you don't have an issue.

 

[phanbuey]

It's not a GPU issue.

When is the 14600KF arriving?

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

Some game engines seem to have an issue with under-utilization. It happens with GTA V at times, especially earlier GTA V. (before the Enhanced update of 2025)

It looks like this, the FPS drops and you see a lower GPU percentage.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

It's not a GPU issue.

When is the 14600KF arriving?

The crack dealer is back....

For sure though OP should give one a shot.

 

[phanbuey]

The crack dealer is back....

For sure though OP should give one a shot.

If you by crack you mean silky smooth FPS... then yes. Guilty.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

If you by crack you mean silky smooth FPS... then yes. Guilty.

Yeah, OP upgrading to a faster wider cpu and still having issues would be shocking but I get it the op doesn't want to do all that work and still have the same issues. He needs to repast his 3070 regardless and he did say the 9060xt was smoother in general even if it still had some stuttering issue. His issue is likely a combination of factors would be my guess as to why he is having problems identifying the issue.

I tested my 5800X in most the games he is having issues in with a faster gpu and did not have any problems so I would blow the whole thing up and not bring anything over from it lmao. I'm glad out of all the systems I've built besides some software not getting along I have not had this issue other than with games with known issues.

 

[phanbuey]

it's not the CPU or the GPU - it's some configuration or driver conflict with the board/ram/devices.

If you look around the webs theres people that said on their B550 Aorus Elite V2 if they moved USB ports and only used the 3.0 ports that stuttering went away...

Some are saying disabling fTPM fixed it... etc.

-- So try to disable FTPM from he bios and only use the blue ports and see but other than that sell it to someone who doesn't game.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AMDHelp/comments/13890pl/b550_mouse_stutter_fix

The last 550 i built with didn't play nice with the guy's 4070 gpu due to some power management thing -- was an actual nightmare, sent everything back and got the 7800x3d lol.

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

The last 550 i built with didn't play nice with the guy's 4070 gpu due to some power management thing

Which B550 motherboard?

 

[Montelo]

Testing a new CPU and Mainboard would be my next try, im gonna do that Next week when I got the Money for it

I do find it interesting that the 1060/9060XT are smoother than the 3070 that could be the Hotspot issue giving you erratic clocks original I thought it was becuase the 1060 was so much slower but outside of CS2 the 9060XT should give you comparable performance to the 3070 the higher the base performance the more obvious stuttering issue will be jfyi.

The Overall Performance seemed worse on the 9060 FPS wise, stutter wise it was a Little Bit better

I do find it interesting that the 1060/9060XT are smoother than the 3070 that could be the Hotspot issue giving you erratic clocks original

Could the Hotspot really be a Problem in Games like cs? The hotspot doesnt even reach 80°C

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Testing a new CPU and Mainboard would be my next try, im gonna do that Next week when I got the Money for it

The Overall Performance seemed worse on the 9060 FPS wise, stutter wise it was a Little Bit better


Could the Hotspot really be a Problem in Games like cs? The hotspot doesnt even reach 80°C

I honestly think there is just some sort of conflict with your chosen hardware combination as far as software/drivers or your motherboard is having issues which is honestly the most likely culprit given all your troubleshooting.

I think the smart move as our resident frames dealer @phanbuey has said multiple times is give the 14600KF a shot.

 

[phanbuey]

Which B550 motherboard?

MSI B550 A pro i think - or some variant of that (wifi? wifi+?). He upgraded to a 4070 had a 5800x3d- weird black screens and freezing watching videos, crashing out of games, not coming back from sleep, we spent a few weeks troubleshooting it and found a bunch of other people reported the same things...

He used it as an excuse to grab a 7800X3D that he 'definitely' needed lol.

Point is weird interactions like that with hardware happen all the time - there was nothing wrong with any individual component but you put them all together and boom - disaster, maybe it gets fixed, maybe it doesn't.

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

MSI B550 A pro i think - or some variant of that (wifi? wifi+?). He upgraded to a 4070 had a 5800x3d- weird black screens and freezing watching videos, crashing out of games, not coming back from sleep, we spent a few weeks troubleshooting it and found a bunch of other people reported the same things...

He used it as an excuse to grab a 7800X3D that he 'definitely' needed lol.

Point is weird interactions like that with hardware happen all the time - there was nothing wrong with any individual component but you put them all together and boom - disaster, maybe it gets fixed, maybe it doesn't.

That's a whole lot worse than my ASRock B550 PG Velocita, and I wondered if it was buggy. My problem early on, wasn't crashing in games or tasks, except that there's a good chance that Edgium takes down Windows 11 with the "blank screen with monitor backlight still lit" bug. Never happened with Firefox. But, I never had that issue with Ryzen 9 5900X nor my Alienware AW3423DWF OLED monitor.

Was it a bug with AMD drivers with RX 6000 series and possibly an interaction with Samsung monitors? Another person showed a blank screen on a Samsung monitor as well.
I also randomly got the same kind of crash when changing the refresh rate in Windows 11! I haven't seen such in many, many months! It seemed to happen more in 2022 and maybe earlier 2023.

It's extremely strange! I also never recalled a crash like that with the first 32 GB kit taken out and 2x8 GB installed! That was with a "regular" 5800X. I suspected a bad IMC on it.
The same RAM works OK, even with XMP on my Asus ROG Strix B550-F Gaming and 5800X3D! (Trident Z Neo 2x16 GB 3600 kit)

I took the RAM out of it on May 18, 2023 after I unexpectedly got "MEMORY_MANAGEMENT" BSOD with the "regular" 5800X.

I never got crashes with the Asus ROG Strix B550-F Gaming + 5800X3D.

I must add that the odds of AM4 being buggy, decreased with later BIOSes.

Socket AM4 is today's version of socket 462! It's like socket 462 20 years ago.

 

[Montelo]

I honestly think there is just some sort of conflict with your chosen hardware combination as far as software/drivers or your motherboard is having issues which is honestly the most likely culprit given all your troubleshooting.

I think the smart move as our resident frames dealer @phanbuey has said multiple times is give the 14600KF a shot.

Yea that will be my Next Move I hope it will help , im waiting for a corsair package since im missing the Intel mounting bracket, and as soon as i have the money i will get it what was the Mainboard I should get it was a MSI one right? And any ram Suggestions?

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Yea that will be my Next Move I hope it will help , im waiting for a corsair package since im missing the Intel mounting bracket, and as soon as i have the money i will get it what was the Mainboard I should get it was a MSI one right? And any ram Suggestions?

Doesn't matter brand but 6000 CL30 at the lowest price is a pretty decent cost vs performance vs compatibility kit.

The motherboard doesn't matter if you don't plan on overclocking the gaming plus was solid at 140, I would be weary of the hassle of buying anything used but that's your call.

If you can find a tomahawk for close to the price of the gaming plus I like it a bit better or if you can find a new Z690 for a decent price. I would avoid anything that doesn't at least have troubleshooting led I'm not sure if that was a thing for raptorlake but some of the newer boards not even cheap ones come without.

 

[Montelo]

this is what i would get, cheapest Ram starts at like 86€ in here and the g.skill is still 20€ Cheaper than Corsair.
Total is 432€

 

[dgianstefani]

Get better mobo

 

[Montelo]

Get better mobo

any suggestions would be appreciated

 

[oxrufiioxo]

any suggestions would be appreciated

He's going to suggest a 300+ one lmao.... Digi FTW you have to go to like 220+ to get a better one the Z790 boards are all trash from 180-200. From every review I've read the board easily handles a 14600K but you will not be able to swap in a 14900k and overclock it.

 

[Montelo]

He's going to suggest a 300+ one lmao.... Digi FTW you have to go to like 220+ to get a better one the Z790 boards are are trash from 180-200. From every review I've read the board easily handles a 14600K but you will not be able to swap in a 14900k and overclock it.

i just need a mobo that runs that cpu fine without any problem i never overclocked in my life and i probably wont

no one in my friendgroup has a mobo over 200€ and yet still they dont have any issues, my friend is using that mainboard but with a 12400f

 

[oxrufiioxo]

i just need a mobo that runs that cpu fine without any problem i never overclocked in my life and i probably wont

no one in my friendgroup has a mobo over 200€ and yet still they dont have any issues, my friend is using that mainboard but with a 12400f

It would help if you linked the store you use pc part picker germany is useless and so is Amazon to try and search.

 

[Montelo]

It would help if you linked the store you use pc part picker germany is useless and so is Amazon to try and search.

right now i used Alternate.de but there is also mindfactory.de
Those are probably the biggest 2 sites we use in here

 

[oxrufiioxo]

right now i used Alternate.de but there is also mindfactory.de
Those are probably the biggest 2 sites we use in here

This is the cheapest Z790 that doesn't look like it sucks that I can find.

https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/MSI-Tomahawk-WIFI-Intel-Z790-So--1700-Dual-Channel-DDR-ATX-Retail_1471444.html

And the only other B760 but it comes with a very similar vrm maybe just slightly better heatsinks.

https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/Asus-TUF-Gaming-B760-Plus-WIFI-Intel-B760-So-1700-DDR5-ATX-Retail_1613585.html

Digi is from across the pond like you so maybe he will be able to find something that isn't twice the price that doesn't suck.

Amazon for some reason will only show me used prices and then when I click on them the boards are double or triple the price.

 

[Montelo]

This is the cheapest Z790 that doesn't look like it sucks that I can find.

https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/MSI-Tomahawk-WIFI-Intel-Z790-So--1700-Dual-Channel-DDR-ATX-Retail_1471444.html

And the only other B760 but it comes with a very similar vrm maybe just slightly better heatsinks.

https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/Asus-TUF-Gaming-B760-Plus-WIFI-Intel-B760-So-1700-DDR5-ATX-Retail_1613585.html

Digi is from across the pond like you so maybe he will be able to find something that isn't twice the price that doesn't suck.

Amazon for some reason will only show me used prices and then when I click on them the boards are double or triple the price.

the Z790 is nearly 100€ more than the one i wanted to buy holy haha , would the MSI one be that big of a problem with the 14600KF?

 

[oxrufiioxo]

the Z790 is nearly 100€ more than the one i wanted to buy holy haha , would the MSI one be that big of a problem with the 14600KF?

Honestly the only thing that bothers me personally about it is it does not have bios flashback I feel like every board should have it and the I/O really sucks I think it only has 2 m.2 and the usb situation is sad.

The TUF really isn't better so the 40 more it cost isn't worth it either.

Those are all a you thing though you have to make those kinds of decisions it's easy for me to say you should get a 250 board when it isn't coming out of my pocket.

This is the cheapest one I can find that ticks all my boxes. Bios flashback, decent enough connectivity, pcie gen5 which is a nice to have for a future gpu upgrade, better vrm and better vrm heatsinks cooler is better after all.

MSI Z790 GAMING PLUS WIFI, Mainboard grau/schwarz

Das MSI Z790 GAMING PLUS WIFI Mainboard basiert auf dem Intel®-Z790-Chipsatz und unterstützt Intel®-Prozessoren für den Sockel 1700 der 12ten und 1...

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