Games Keep Freezing RX 5700 XT

[Deleted member 67555]

Ok.. Now I'm curious.
How exactly did reviewers do their reviews.
I haven't talked to a single 5700xt owner that doesn't have a problem.
That can't be a coincidence.

 

[r.h.p]

I’m swapping my 2070 back in and going to hold onto the 5700XT until drivers mature

I think that's a good idea if u can affords it pal

 

[Kapone33]

I was just reading reviews on the 5700XT on Newegg. It seems that there are more negative than positive reviews. I was contemplating replacing my Vega(s) with a 5700XT but not now. Hopefully the AIB cards are better. Is there anyone who owns an AIB 5700XT and can comment?

 

[EarthDog]

I was just reading reviews on the 5700XT on Newegg. It seems that there are more negative than positive reviews. I was contemplating replacing my Vega(s) with a 5700XT but not now. Hopefully the AIB cards are better. Is there anyone who owns an AIB 5700XT and can comment?

Newegg reviews are a joke, note. It's all the potatos in one place. Even the newegg reviewers are mostly potatos...not reliable!

On a more serious note, the only thing you can take away from newegg reviews with any confidence are DOAs.

 

[Kapone33]

Newegg reviews are a joke, note. It's all the potatos in one place. Even the newegg reviewers are mostly potatos...not reliable!

On a more serious note, the only thing you can take away from newegg reviews with any confidence are DOAs.

Yes most of the time you are right about that assessment but they were very much inline with the OP and others with their issues. No that it is on this thread but I think there may be an issue with Windows 1903 and AMD products. I have been having some weird issues since I got that update.

 

[MrGRiMv25]

Just out of curiosity, have you tried the 19.8.1 drivers yet? I was getting issues with my RX570 with the 19.7.1 drivers and these newer ones have sorted it.

 

[EarthDog]

Don't jump to conclusions that it's 1903... I'd bet the farm on drivers before I would a Windows patch (as many problems as those can have).

 

[Kapone33]

Don't jump to conclusions that it's 1903... I'd bet the farm on drivers before I would a Windows patch (as many problems as those can have).

I am not concluding that this particular issue is due to 1903. I agree that it is most likely drivers. I should have started another thread under 1903 instead of posting it here.

 

[EarthDog]

I am not concluding that this particular issue is due to 1903. I agree that it is most likely drivers. I should have started another thread under 1903 instead of posting it here.

All you'll get is a bunch of lemmings saying the same thing... and not understanding that correlation is not causation.

 

[Kapone33]

All you'll get is a bunch of lemmings saying the same thing... and not understanding that correlation is not causation.

That is an excellent thought process

 

[EarthDog]

That is an excellent thought process

It's a sad one, but it is what it is in forums...

Many people just don't seem to grasp that there are more variables than just the OS. You personally have a completely different card so the correlation from this thread (and the 5700) really isn't there with you in the first place. Sure, the drivers are the same, but the underlying architecture and how things work are different.

EDIT: I know, I'm a negative Nancy, but know this forum (and many other's) M.O...

 

[Space Lynx]

And I thought my Gigabyte RTX 2080 was buggy as shit! (Aorus Software Trash) Was thinking of downgrading to a RX 5700 XT but from your experience @Durvelle27 I think I might just stick with my overpriced RTX card. Jesus AMD get your shit together on the GPU side... The only thing I would suggest is just to send it back & stick with your 2070 especially if your 2070 worked perfectly fine.

vast majority of people would never use Aurous software... just use msi afterburner if you want fan control and to OC - thats what vast majority use... its stable and works... so really its not the 2080 that's buggy at all, it's that aurus software

 

[John Naylor]

5700 XT slightly faster if it works properly

According to TPUs test results, AIB vs AIB, if we compare compare the AIB MSI 2070 to the AIB MSI 5700XT and with both cards overclocked, the 2070 is faster, quieter and and had lower temps ... it was close.

Out of the box the AIB MSI 5700 XT Evoke had an overall score of 100% @ 1080p, versus 97% for the Reference 2070
Out of the box the AIB MSI 2070 Gaming Z Trio also had an overall score of 100% @ 1080p, versus 97% for the Reference 2070

So outta the box it's a draw ... the difference in OC ability howver is somewhat significant

h ttps://www.techpowerup.com/review/msi-radeon-rx-5700-xt-evoke/28.html
h ttps://www.techpowerup.com/review/msi-radeon-rx-5700-xt-evoke/28.html
At 1080p MSI Evoke scored 100% to the reference 2070s 97% and overclocked 3.9% (119.6 / 115,1)

h ttps://www.techpowerup.com/review/msi-geforce-rtx-2070-gaming-z/33.html
h ttps://www.techpowerup.com/review/msi-geforce-rtx-2070-gaming-z/36.html
At 1080p MSI Gaming Z 2070 scored 100% to the reference 2070s 97% and overclocked 8.2% (144.5 / 133.5)

MSI Evoke 5700 XT = 100 / 97 x 119.6 / 115.1 = 1.0712
MSI 2070 = 100 / 97 x 144.5 / 133.5 = 1.1159 ... a lil over 4% faster.

I did the same w/ most of the others ... Asus had a lead out of the box w/ their 5700 XT .... but it was very agressively clocked and it's OC ability was nil.

Newegg reviews are a joke, note. It's all the potatos in one place. Even the newegg reviewers are mostly potatos...not reliable!

On a more serious note, the only thing you can take away from newegg reviews with any confidence are DOAs.

Newegg reviews will undoubtedlt include folks without the proper knowledge and experience to troubleshhot theiur systems . That in no way discounts their value. Unless you belive that all the astute folks are choosing one brand model and all the dopey folks are choosing another, there's no basis to discount them just because you don't like how a product you like fared. If one brand model has 500 reviews with 80+ % giving 5 eggs and 7% giving 1 egg... versus another with 500 reviews showing 35% 5 eggs and 40% 1 egg, Id be sure to avoid that 2nd one/

 

[Darmok N Jalad]

I noticed Newegg customer reviews are pretty varied. Some are very thorough, others post a single poorly structured sentence that tells you almost nothing. Stars are subjective—some base them on value, others on performance, others reliability, and others on something really arbitrary, like shipping speed or return policy.

 

[EarthDog]

Newegg reviews will undoubtedlt include folks without the proper knowledge and experience to troubleshhot theiur systems . That in no way discounts their value. Unless you belive that all the astute folks are choosing one brand model and all the dopey folks are choosing another, there's no basis to discount them just because you don't like how a product you like fared. If one brand model has 500 reviews with 80+ % giving 5 eggs and 7% giving 1 egg... versus another with 500 reviews showing 35% 5 eggs and 40% 1 egg, Id be sure to avoid that 2nd one/

It absolutely does discount their value.. I'm not going to get into it as, respectfully, I don't have the time to read a dissertation in your reply. But yeah, newegg reviews are a joke outside of DOA. Half of these people can't find their way out of a wet paper bag. There is simply no way I'm trusting the lemmings to have a clue... they don't in the vast majority of cases.

there's no basis to discount them just because you don't like how a product you like fared

to be clear, how well or poorly a product does has little bearing on my opinion of their reviews. I have no horse in that race.

 

[killster1]

People do post reviews when they have a issue's compared to posting about how wonderful the card works. Sooo ... ya.. I dont think the people faked the reviews. You shouldn't have to have some extensive instruction list to install drivers for a card, obviously there are issues (but it would be hard to believe EVERYONE is having them)

[/QUOTE]

pretty much all games are unplayable on a Navi GPU, too many bugs, they should have waited to get at least Freesync/Enhanced Sync working, also the refresh rate bug its just stupid, locking to 30 fps if you enable Vsync. I returned the card, and will wait until they sort most of the bugs.

Wish I had the money for a 2070 Super but its so expensive here. Reference 5700 XT $480USD 2070 Super $670USD

how reliable is the mail there? i know my house overseas doesn't get mail and the post office box is often robbed by the postal employee's (very hard to get things in the mail)

I'm curious, the reviews of these cards didn't seem to mention these issues, did they? Admittedly, I haven't read them all, but I didn't see comments about Navi being such a mess. Are these isolated to a few cards, or have reviewers left these issues out? I'm not discounting anyone's experience, but how widespread are these problems? If it's pretty bad, then reviewers should help press AMD for solutions. I'll root for the underdog as much as anyone, but they can't push junk out the door and still hope to advance their brand.

Maybe the review sites received special cards? Very exciting seeing so many people that are die hard AMD fans, why would you need to have a all AMD system?

 

[moproblems99]

Very exciting seeing so many people that are die hard AMD fans, why would you need to have a all AMD system?

Where did his quote say you need an all and system? Did I miss something?

 

[PerfectWave]

a 3900x on a b350 his configuration OMG

 

[Darmok N Jalad]

People do post reviews when they have a issue's compared to posting about how wonderful the card works. Sooo ... ya.. I dont think the people faked the reviews. You shouldn't have to have some extensive instruction list to install drivers for a card, obviously there are issues (but it would be hard to believe EVERYONE is having them)


how reliable is the mail there? i know my house overseas doesn't get mail and the post office box is often robbed by the postal employee's (very hard to get things in the mail)



Maybe the review sites received special cards? Very exciting seeing so many people that are die hard AMD fans, why would you need to have a all AMD system?

I won't read too much into your "all AMD" claim, but in case there is confusion, I did not advocate going "all AMD." My comment is in regard to encouraging competition, but it has to be healthy competition. My implication is that I'm hoping review sites didn't give Navi a pass, but it's a real question if so many users are having trouble. However, I'd have to wonder how reviewers could even complete their wide range of testing if Navi really is this unreliable. Basically, is there a news story here?

 

[PerfectWave]

he should post some pictures about his problem with navi, event log, dump file

 

[Deleted member 50521]

he should post some pictures about his problem with navi, event log, dump file

Those should be sent to AMD’s driver team TBH. They had some sort of AMD Vanguard beta testing team. (Although it feels like the entire Navi launch is beta testing)

 

[Durvelle27]

I think that's a good idea if u can affords it pal

I shouldn’t have to afford it considering I already have a RTX 2070

Yes most of the time you are right about that assessment but they were very much inline with the OP and others with their issues. No that it is on this thread but I think there may be an issue with Windows 1903 and AMD products. I have been having some weird issues since I got that update.

I did update to 1903 before swapping. It’s possible but I don’t think it’s the issue

Where did his quote say you need an all and system? Did I miss something?

I don’t need an all AMD system but I prefer to have one

a 3900x on a b350 his configuration OMG

What’s wrong with that

 

[Space Lynx]

I shouldn’t have to afford it considering I already have a RTX 2070


I did update to 1903 before swapping. It’s possible but I don’t think it’s the issue


I don’t need an all AMD system but I prefer to have one


What’s wrong with that

a b350 mobo might be some of your issues actually. I know it shouldn't be, but yeah...

you could also try linux mint since it auto installs amd drivers for cpu and gpu. and just play some steam games that support linux, see if you run into any issues. i think holding on to two cards is a bit a silly though, value will decrease for both quite a lot, especially since next cycle will be faster... rx 5800 is coming by end of year i suspect, and I wouldn't be surprised if Nvidia has a response already in store

 

[Durvelle27]

a b350 mobo might be some of your issues actually. I know it shouldn't be, but yeah...

you could also try linux mint since it auto installs amd drivers for cpu and gpu. and just play some steam games that support linux, see if you run into any issues. i think holding on to two cards is a bit a silly though, value will decrease for both quite a lot, especially since next cycle will be faster... rx 5800 is coming by end of year i suspect, and I wouldn't be surprised if Nvidia has a response already in store

I 100% know my board isn't the issue. Many reviewers tested the 3900X on B350 and A320 boards with no issues at all not to mention again system runs fine with the 2070 so that rules out the system itself.

I’ll try Linux on a spare drive but I doubt it will be any better.

 

[Space Lynx]

I 100% know my board isn't the issue. Many reviewers tested the 3900X on B350 and A320 boards with no issues at all not to mention again system runs fine with the 2070 so that rules out the system itself.

I’ll try Linux on a spare drive but I doubt it will be any better.

give Linux Mint XFCE a shot, I am genuinely curious if it will run games stable.

don't push it too hard with ultra AAA game or anything, just play some casual games in your steam linux library and report back to me if you can - tag me in post - i intend to do this OS when the 3 fan 5700 XT comes out from gigabyte... (well maybe, i'm still worried about stability)