Gaming related motion sickness - Need some help

[DRDNA]

I remember a time when CRT's having a low refresh rate and florescent lighting had a whole slew of office folks crying the headache blues..... and upping the refresh rate seemed to help most of them out...No doctors needed just some savvy IT Techs.

 

[dorsetknob]

.No doctors needed just some savvy IT Techs.

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I have this Nasty Rash in my Groin Area could it be Because i Did'nt Clean my Key Board for a while ?

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[Countryside]

I have a degree in computer engineering sorry cant help you with motion sickness not my area of expertise you should visit eye and ear doctor.

 

[Nosada]

Haven't read all posts, so don't know if this has been mentioned, but:

Field of View, look into it, see if you can find a slider or a config file or if necessary a hack to increase it in the games that give you nausea. My wife can't play any game that has a FoV below 90 degrees, and increasing it to 90 or higher always fixes it. She also can't read in a moving car, train or airplane.

 

[Tai]

Hey thanks for the helpful comment, im getting a
ASUS VG245HE, its a 75hz, TN, freesync, 1ms, do u advise??

As for the graphic card its an msi 1060, if 75hz is bad then ill look for another screen..

Thank u again

I got mad motion sickness when taking oxycodone/hydrocodone for pain. Any drug that slows your mental faculties aggravate motion sickness.

For sure see a doctor, let them know you easily get motion sick, and they'll likely order a bunch of blood work to search for abnormalities. On top of that, if you haven't got your vision checked recently you perhaps should. Having uneven vision in each eye can cause many problems.

Fluorescent light bulbs at supermarkets causing motion sickness is your best hint. You should get a 120-144 Hz monitor and a GPU that can put out 144+ fps. Freesync/G-Sync might help too. Hell, just getting a better GPU (depending on what you have now) can help hugely. The games you listed as not causing motion sickness tend to run at ridiculously high framerates (like Counter-Strike). Games you listed as causing motion sickness (especially Skyrim), tend to have low framerates (I even got motion sick on that one at the beginning briefly). Disabling vsync may help get you more frames so you're less likely to see jitters.

Edit: If the monitor you're using is old, it might have a CCFL which pretty much identical to the bulbs used in supermarkets. Changing to a new LED lit panel could substantially reduce motion sickness as well. 1920x1080 LED TN panels are cheap these days ($120ish).

ul

 

[Vayra86]

hello all, so yea im a gamer with motionsickness, this is the story of how it all started. My gaming life was great until N64 showed up, my first experience was while playing doom 64 and goldeneye 007, these too games made me sick for days... with the recent consols, i can no longer play nintendo games, mario party got me sick... anyways, half life, doom, most of the fps makes me sick... i even blame my motionsickness on my fathers death coz i was playing call of duty ghost got sick and had to sleep early... but i was somehow abel later to finish the game without issues..

Fps games i can play are: counter strike, cod, dragon age.
Sometimes i get motionsickness from witcher and elders scroll and dragon age but rarely

So whats triggering it...

Off games, big supermarket rows makes me sick..

I would really love to know what i have to do...
and with monitors, which goes with MS 60hz or 144hz? The more hz the better??
And again most importantly to know whats trigering it... its annoyinggggg

Thank u im advance

Field of View.

I know from back in the days, and as an owner of an N64 myself, that the early FPS games have a very narrow Field of View. This is likely to cause motion sickness, and a wider FOV will in that case reduce or entirely remove that effect. Newer games all have an FOV slider, play with that and see if it helps you. I used to play Goldeneye against my uncle and he had real trouble playing it precisely because of that narrow FOV.

Another thing: there are TONS of games you can play that aren't first or third person, like ARPGs such as Diablo, strategy, 4X, basically any isometric (top-down view) game.

Finally, don't play games when you are tired, play in a well lit room, take a small break every hour, these are all small things that can help you. In the end its your brain that cannot process the information you get from gaming too well, its similar to getting car sick while reading in the car. For most people it has everything to do with balance. It can also be something that you can grow out of as the years pass.

BTW: I strongly doubt there is scientific evidence that supports that a high refresh (144hz) screen will help you - most likely this is a (marketing-fueled-)placebo than anything else.. Especially because keeping over 100 fps in every game at all times is much harder than keeping a stable 60 or 75 fps, and frametime variance will be much more of a strain than a constant FPS, regardless of how much FPS you have.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Hey thanks for the helpful comment, im getting a
ASUS VG245HE, its a 75hz, TN, freesync, 1ms, do u advise??

As for the graphic card its an msi 1060, if 75hz is bad then ill look for another screen..

Thank u again


ul

GTX 1060 can't do FreeSync. 75 Hz is only a 25% improvement over 60 Hz. It will probably help but I doubt it will help enough.

Is the GTX 1060 a 3 GB or 6 GB model? I assume you already have this card so no changing it.

I get the impression that G-Sync is going to push you out of your price range so I'd forget FreeSync/G-Sync and just focus on as high of a refresh rate as you can afford.

 

[Solaris17]

You need a doctor not a tech forum.

Take some Ginger or dramamine (sea sick drug) to see if it helps temp

Then go to a doctor instead of spending hundreds on a gaming monitor and have your eyes checked. and a physical exam.

 

[qubit]

Edit: If the monitor you're using is old, it might have a CCFL which pretty much identical to the bulbs used in supermarkets. Changing to a new LED lit panel could substantially reduce motion sickness as well.

Yes, good point. Many older monitors control the backlight brightness by strobing the backlight very quickly several hundred times a second. You can't directly see it usually, but it can still have an effect on you.

My current monitors are a great example of this. The Asus VG278HE strobes the backlight while the BenQ XL2720Z doesn't. I normally run the BenQ with the motion blur reduction strobe off (ie no flashing) and looking between them, I can detect a subtle difference, in that the BenQ is kinda easier to look at, even if it's brighter. On top of that, saccades (rapid eye movement) tends to reveal a slight flickering effect, as well as wiggling a finger rapidly in front of it with a bright background, so it's definitely perceptible and could potentially cause motion sickness and eye strain in some people.

 

[erocker]

You need a doctor not a tech forum.

Take some Ginger or dramamine (sea sick drug) to see if it helps temp

Then go to a doctor instead of spending hundreds on a gaming monitor and have your eyes checked. and a physical exam.

^ This.

 

[HTC]

Before spending in any PC upgrade, i would definitely visit the doctor to try and narrow the problem as much as possible: this could help narrow out what parts, if any, i would need to upgrade.

Haven't read all posts, so don't know if this has been mentioned, but:

Field of View, look into it, see if you can find a slider or a config file or if necessary a hack to increase it in the games that give you nausea. My wife can't play any game that has a FoV below 90 degrees, and increasing it to 90 or higher always fixes it. She also can't read in a moving car, train or airplane.

I've never noticed motion sickness when playing a game (then again, i don't game that much, tbh) but i definitely notice it when i try to read in a moving car, though not so much on a train.

 

[BiggieShady]

People that have motion sickness in games tend to increase FOV angle (Field of Vision) in first person games all the way to the distorted levels. Don't know for sure if it helps, but it's worth a try.

 

[Tai]

Hey its a 6gb

 

[Tai]

U know that doctors have no clue what actually causes motion sickness?? C its not a doc matter. Ive been cooping with motion sickness for 30 year ^ ^
All i wanted to be is a badass female gamer hhaah but ms failure

^ This.

 

[Tai]

Again no doctor knows what causes motionsickness Even the american airforce research did not come with a answer to it!! Anyways its 100%the right spot because sharing each ones experience can be thrown into statistics then comes narrowing down the issue...
look a bit furthure than ur nose

I have a degree in computer engineering sorry cant help you with motion sickness not my area of expertise you should visit eye and ear doctor.

 

[DRDNA]

MR IT Tech
I have this Nasty Rash in my Groin Area could it be Because i Did'nt Clean my Key Board for a while ?

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haha ever seen something like this >> https://www.humanscale.com/ergonomi.../certification-programs-office-ergonomics.cfm

I have a degree in computer engineering sorry cant help you with motion sickness not my area of expertise you should visit eye and ear doctor.

Well goodie for you , so do I and Every Tech on the Team is required to also complete something like this in order to even be on the team. https://www.occupro.net/education/c...fice-ergonomic-evaluator-certification-course



Just because some IT folks are not up to snuff doesn't mean we all are in that limited boat.

 

[Tai]

Again for the million time, no doc on earth have a scientific theory of what causes motionsickness. Its all about sharing experience and doimg some statistics then narrowing it down... its called experiments. It fun, kinda a puzzle,

You need a doctor not a tech forum.

Take some Ginger or dramamine (sea sick drug) to see if it helps temp

Then go to a doctor instead of spending hundreds on a gaming monitor and have your eyes checked. and a physical exam.

 

[Solaris17]

Again for the million time, no doc on earth have a scientific theory of what causes motionsickness. Its all about sharing experience and doimg some statistics then narrowing it down... its called experiments. It fun, kinda a puzzle,

No not really, motion sickness can be caused by alot of stuff, this isnt a fun puzzle.

You read that from the same counter strike forum that told you you needed to buy a 144hz monitor for a game made in 2012? Asking for a friend.

 

[DRDNA]

Again no doctor knows what causes motionsickness Even the american airforce research did not come with a answer to it!! Anyways its 100%the right spot because sharing each ones experience can be thrown into statistics then comes narrowing down the issue...
look a bit furthure than ur nose

We have seen going from wide screen to the cheesy 4:9 monitors along with some noticeable mellow back lighting help in an instance of motion sickness but it was office monitor related and not gaming, not sure if your willing to make them kind of sacrifices though....

 

[toilet pepper]

Again for the million time, no doc on earth have a scientific theory of what causes motionsickness. Its all about sharing experience and doimg some statistics then narrowing it down... its called experiments. It fun, kinda a puzzle,

If you dont want to go to a specialist, get one of those GUNNAR glasses or simply instal flux. I get you, I cant play on a console for a long time due to lower fps and lower FOV. Maybe get a 480 then a freesync monitor.

 

[DRDNA]

If you dont want to go to a specialist, get one of those GUNNAR glasses or simply instal flux. I get you, I cant play on a console for a long time due to lower fps and lower FOV. Maybe get a 480 then a freesync monitor.

Right...its going to come down to trial and error and hopefully not too much money in the process.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Here's an example: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B2HH7G0/?tag=tec06d-20

It's TN so the colors won't be the best but it's really fast so it should take care of your motion sickness problems as long as the GPU can keep up.

 

[Vayra86]

Here's an example: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B2HH7G0/?tag=tec06d-20

It's TN so the colors won't be the best but it's really fast so it should take care of your motion sickness problems as long as the GPU can keep up.

*sigh*

This panel has:
- shitty colors
- bleeding backlight
- Pulsewidth modulated backlight (strobe)

It might possibly be the WORST choice. And you are defeating your own argument about light pulsing being the cause with this recommendation. This monitor can ONLY pulse light. Do you mind terribly if I call bullshit on your story here?

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Then suggest something better.

 

[Vayra86]

Then suggest something better.

Or don't suggest a new product before seeing a doctor to get serious advice. We've pointed out many useful suggestions already, buying new gear is NOT one of them, it's just blindfiring at possibilities. Especially when you run a GTX 1060 and expect 144 fps stable. It just makes zero sense.