GeForce GTX TITAN-Z Market Availability Delayed?

[Xzibit]

To me, the justification for the price of a GTX Titan Z would have been meet if it had ECCM and all the trimmings like a normal workstation card. Otherwise, to me, this is nothing more than a 3-slot, paperweight of fails on NVidia's end. I'd rather spend the extra $1,000.00 for the AMD W9100 for CGI Rendering.

More like a couple hundred dollars more for a FirePro W9100.

Provantage @ $3,182
ShopBLT @ $3,252
ExcaliberPC @ $3,299

The Titan Z price is just weird but Nvidia priced the Quadro K6000 @ $5,999 currently $4,999 MSRP and dropping so $2,999 for an alternative looks cheap for team green I guess.

 

[nem]

TRI Slot please NV!! , by that price well could put on a WaterBlock gold plated incrusted with diamonds XD^^

https://www.google.com.mx/search?q=...lated&rls=org.mozilla:es-MX:official&tbm=isch

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[abundantcores]

Says it all.

 

[cadaveca]

Says it all.

Who posted that? HardOCP?






Seems funny to be asking for a card at this point.

 

[HumanSmoke]

Most people don't use DP...even on the compute side...

Most people aren't in the market for a $3K graphics solution full stop. There are areas where FP64 (or rather a mixed FP432+FP64 workload) isn't wedded to ECC, which seems largely overrated unless criticality is paramount. After Effects and its OptiX ray trace engine comes to mind.

Or the professional drivers which it also doesn't have.

Doesn't seem to hold everyone back. The number of systems using GeForce boards for heavy lifting whilst using a cheapish Quadro for ViewPort and driver support seems to be on the rise.

But for technology that’s not the same, technology should improve while pricing is normally reduced, or at best remain similar perf/$ to have usefulness in factual economics.

Pretty much. The early years of personal computing didn't benefit from the level of commoditization that is presently enjoyed. Yields and process costs amortized over a greater production run have improved greatly even without factoring in standardization of components, competition within secondary supply etc.

As a card that some person in a upstart or basement might employ to find the cure for cancer... super great value. Use it to discover a way to break the bounds of Earth’s atmosphere with huge payload while very little energy super-diddly… let’s hope that what these all gets used for. The rest is clever marketing that portends value to the masses of clueless.

Oddly enough, I haven't actually seem any Nvidia marketing for the board since its launch (which actually spent more time spotlighting its supposed GPGPU credentials)...am I missing a deluge a PR? or is it more a case of a bunch of forum posters picking a colour and playing out some nerd version of the battles of the Ypres Salient whenever an article purporting to carry some news of the card surfaces.
As far as Nvidia's marketing pages are concerned, it seems mainly confined to their own sites various blogs. Clever marketing indeed if Nvidia have convinced the masses to bookmark their various portals.

Seems like a lot of effort from a bunch of people who have one thing in common - none of them will be buying the card

clever marketing that portends value to the masses of clueless.

I think you'll find that sticking two GPUs on the same PCB allows you to charge three times the single card price. ....Pay for three, Get two is the new black.

 

[GhostRyder]

More like a couple hundred dollars more for a FirePro W9100.

Provantage @ $3,182
ShopBLT @ $3,252
ExcaliberPC @ $3,299

The Titan Z price is just weird but Nvidia priced the Quadro K6000 @ $5,999 currently $4,999 MSRP and dropping so $2,999 for an alternative looks cheap for team green I guess.

Yea, with 16gb of ram, your better off with that card since its got some series performance for the CGI crowd while also getting the professional level of drivers, ECC ram, and quality build. Titan and Titan-Z are not rated like any of the professional grade cards which is part of the problem since the Quadros, Teslas, and Firepro's are actually rated for workstation 24/7 use.

Says it all.

There could be multiple reasons for this:
1: They are refining the card
2: They don't want comparisons because its not as good
3: They don't care
4: They do not like to compare Quad and tri on their cards.
Nvidia does not even list in many cases that their video cards can run in a quad setup. They really don't support 3 and 4 card setups with their drivers which causes poor scaling in games and such. They probably do not care to show that and would rather show numbers on things where it might actually have an advantage.

The point of this card is nill, its situations where it would work well are over shadowed by its size and cooler design along with the low professional grade support, non-ECC ram, and the fact its components are not rated for the heavy workloads/24/7 use that would be associated with this level of computing.

 

[warrior420]

It's not a bigger cooler. Just the I/O plate is now extended to the full 3 slots. Before it was just 2.5 slots, it looked better for marketing purposes...

I was actually wondering why the plate isn't 3 slots, 2.5 would just look wonky in an actual case.

The cooler was and still is 2.5 slots.

THANK YOU! Finally someone realizes this.

An extra slot space between the card will greatly improve cooling.

 

[Relayer]

Most people aren't in the market for a $3K graphics solution full stop. There are areas where FP64 (or rather a mixed FP432+FP64 workload) isn't wedded to ECC, which seems largely overrated unless criticality is paramount. After Effects and its OptiX ray trace engine comes to mind.

I wasn't aware that optix used DP and can't find a source that states it. I was under the impression it merely requires CUDA. Do you have a link I can check out?

Nvidia does not even list in many cases that their video cards can run in a quad setup. They really don't support 3 and 4 card setups with their drivers which causes poor scaling in games and such. They probably do not care to show that and would rather show numbers on things where it might actually have an advantage.

They don't support quad SLI in some cards simply to reduce costs and get you to upgrade to the next higher model. For example the 780 doesn't offer quad SLI but the 780 ti does. You want quad SLI you pay more.

 

[HumanSmoke]

I wasn't aware that optix used DP and can't find a source that states it. I was under the impression it merely requires CUDA. Do you have a link I can check out?

Currently, the OptiX runtime supports double-precision operations in programs, but rays are stored in single-precision. For some applications it would be desirable to have a double-precision ray. - OptiX: A General Purpose Ray Tracing Engine (PDF) (section 10)

Slide 52, Scheduling in OptiX (SIGGRAPH presentation) (PDF)

They don't support quad SLI in some cards simply to reduce costs and get you to upgrade to the next higher model. For example the 780 doesn't offer quad SLI but the 780 ti does. You want quad SLI you pay more.

Yup. Rarely, an AIB has made exceptions to the iron rule of Nvidia, but not recently to my recollection. I do remember EVGA enabling quad SLI on the GTX 285 Classy when the 285 officially only supported triple SLI

 

[Steevo]

Interesting how if Nvidia makes a 3 slot cooler the fanboys fall on swords to defend how great it is, while the liquid cooler has allowed AMD to kill this card in performance and price, but I would bet if Nvidia made the liquid cooler and this was AMD trying to pass off a 3 slot cooler for 3K, this thread would be doused in foam and halon to keep the flaming down........

 

[GhostRyder]

They don't support quad SLI in some cards simply to reduce costs and get you to upgrade to the next higher model. For example the 780 doesn't offer quad SLI but the 780 ti does. You want quad SLI you pay more.

Yea which makes dual GPU cards a hard point when the support for the 3rd and 4th GPU do not help much (At least in the gaming field). The 780ti has the support for it which is a wonder why the 780 does not (well we all know the real reason lol). Quad-SLi is really not a focus for any card company since it is a very expensive/odd setup. But on dual GPU cards its more of a reality since of course its only requiring 2 cards to accomplish.

Interesting how if Nvidia makes a 3 slot cooler the fanboys fall on swords to defend how great it is, while the liquid cooler has allowed AMD to kill this card in performance and price, but I would bet if Nvidia made the liquid cooler and this was AMD trying to pass off a 3 slot cooler for 3K, this thread would be doused in foam and halon to keep the flaming down........

Your right, its funny because you can tell the fanboys when they make a comment defending a 3k price tag for a 3 slot dual GPU cooler. I have heard certain people make constant complaints on the 7990 dual and 3 slot versions including about its price while the same people defend the reference version of this card being smart or adequate. The titan-z makes no sense in its current form, its a wierd card and does not really fit the bill in any of the areas the Titans (Which I still viewed as completely overpriced) fit into.

Plus the cooler again is not going to work in a rack mount which ruins the whole CGI render card route that Titan sorta filled.

 

[HumanSmoke]

Interesting how if Nvidia makes a 3 slot cooler the fanboys fall on swords to defend how great it is

Actual number of people defending the Titan Z's 3 slot cooler in this thread: ZERO

/Cool story bro

 

[arterius2]

1# Stop grasping straws and bow to the king (295X2).

2# Mike Maloney is a Gold/Silver/Vault seller and will say anything for his business to grow. The guy has been going on about doomsday and the crash of the fiat currency system (the Dollar) for god knows how long (Well Since he started selling Bullion lol). As someone said on here, tech is not the same as Property prices and most other stuff. Markets are effected differently and sometimes have no link whatsoever.

3# Please no more car analogies (lol) you're killing me/everyone.

I wasn't talking about property prices, I wasn't talking about tech, how ignorant can you be?? I was talking about inflation- and inflation is real, same amount of money is worth less every year. Grow up kid, you either don't know anything about economics or you are didn't read what I've said, but who cares, you obviously didn't come here to make a valid point, as reflected in your snobbish attitude. You came off as being extremely naive, and adding fake "lols" after every 2 words didn't help as well - please no more (lols) you're killing me/everyone here.

 

[nem]

new case to Titan Z

 

[Lopez0101]

All white. Sharp edges. Big number.

Looks premium to me.

 

[Steevo]

I had one like that. And remember how another case looked (desktop) after being in a smokers home for a few years. brownishhh

 

[pr0n Inspector]

new case to Titan Z

No TURBO button. Fucking casuals.

 

[GhostRyder]

Reminds me of the Days of some of my old computers when a turbo button was standard and you used to have a little screen showing what the PC clock speed was running at.

 

[derwin75]

It's not worth it. I would save my money for the GeForce 800 Series.