GPU-Z window "rubberbanding"

[N373r]

Hello!

I didn't have GPU-Z installed for a while but when I redownloaded it, it had a strange property - if trying to move GPU-Z window with mouse. the GPU-Z window is moving like in slow motion rubberband mode.
If I move it around wor a few seconds then it takes some time to move to the final place. Rubberbanding explains the effect the best.
I tried older versions too, installed and uninstalled versions and it all happens only with GPU-Z no other program.
Any insight appreciated!

 

[Deleted member 185158]

System specs??

 

[N373r]

System
CPU - i7 6700K
CPU cooler - Snowman M-T6
Motherboard - GA-Z270X-Gaming K5
RAM 16GB DDR4
GPU - Gigabyte 1070
Storage - 1TB Adata SX8200 Pro
PSU - Corsair RM1000x
Display - AOC AG272FCX6
Keyboard - Corsair K55 Nordic
Mouse - Various
Sound - Onboard + Creative Sound Blaster Z
Operating System - Windows 10

 

[phanbuey]

Could be a windows issue, do you have ms excel - does it do that as well?

 

[N373r]

No MS Office
And no, absolutely no other program (I have maybe close to 30-40 installed) has the same "rubberbanding"

 

[Deleted member 185158]

Nice system.

Right click the exe and properties. Make sure the settings are correct. Maybe some box got checked by accident.

 

[N373r]

Nice system.

Right click the exe and properties. Make sure the settings are correct. Maybe some box got checked by accident.

Everything is as it should be in my opinion. And as I said tried many different versions of GPU Z and all act the same.
It's somewhat funny, as the longer I move the window around the longer the window moves around the screen after I release the mouse key ... some 3 seconds even, and it moves very fluidly btw.

 

[Deleted member 185158]

Yea thats wierd. Like it doesnt load in the memory or display driver not installed

 

[phanbuey]

Everything is as it should be in my opinion. And as I said tried many different versions of GPU Z and all act the same.
It's somewhat funny, as the longer I move the window around the more time the window moves around the screen ... some 3-4 seconds and it moves very fluidly btw.

The reason i asked about excel is that it uses hardware acceleration and does the same laggy, smooth, the longer you drag it the longer the delay lasts behavior.

GPU-Z doesnt do it on my system but some apps that use hardware accel do (spotify, excel).

Do you have a screenshot of your GPU-z you can post?

 

[N373r]

The reason i asked about excel is that it uses hardware acceleration and does the same laggy, smooth, the longer you drag it the longer the delay lasts behavior.

GPU-Z doesnt do it on my system but some apps that use hardware accel do (spotify, excel).

Do you have a screenshot of your GPU-z you can post?

Sure I can upload a screenshot:

I tried making a video with Bandicam, but it does not show the point when I release the mouse button and the window moves on.

 

[phanbuey]

does it look like this?

 

[N373r]

does it look like this?

Exactly!

 

[phanbuey]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/5fkyxt

You sir have found one of the rarer bugs with windoze.

congrats and welcome to TPU!

Try with a mouse polling rate of 500hz and see if it still does it. It could just be one cause of it, but different things work for different people (compatibility mode etc.)

I've never had this with GPU-z; trying to reproduce...

 

[N373r]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/5fkyxt

You sir have found one of the rarer bugs with windoze.

congrats and welcome to TPU!

Try with a mouse polling rate of 500hz and see if it still does it. It could just be one cause of it, but different things work for different people (compatibility mode etc.)

I've never had this with GPU-z; trying to reproduce...

Thank you for all your help!

When mouse set to 500Hz polling rate - no rubberbanding.
Forgot to mention that I do have a cheapish chinese mouse at this moment. Tecknet M009.
So it's probably mouse software issue, not GPU-Z.

Checking the background - though I bought it from Aliexpress it might not be chinese...

 

[Deleted member 67555]

Lol yes.
I have a Red Dragon-Griffin mouse and it does this to.
Wonder if it uses the same crappy China software.

 

[W1zzard]

Wow interesting! I never heard of this before. nice work @phanbuey

 

[N373r]

Well, I think it was some driver settings that caused the thing. Tried with another mouse, still the bug was there.
Uninstalled the drivers, restarted pc and reinstalled the software and the problem is gone (for the moment?).

OK, restarting the PC again, reintroduced the bug. I might have had 500Hz before restart though. Not 100% certain.

 

[phanbuey]

I think it has to do with the way windows buffers the USB polling/IO but it's pretty rare and only some apps do it (I still can't get GPU-z to do it on my system; tried everything)...

I've noticed it's only applications with embedded graphics (so a blank excel workbook won't do it for me); so it seems to be a pretty narrow combination of things that make it happen.

 

[N373r]

I think it has to do with the way windows buffers the USB polling/IO but it's pretty rare and only some apps do it (I still can't get GPU-z to do it on my system; tried everything)...

Also about OS - I'm on Windows 10 Insider fast ring build. 18999.1

 

[eidairaman1]

Thank you for all your help!

When mouse set to 500Hz polling rate - no rubberbanding.
Forgot to mention that I do have a cheapish chinese mouse at this moment. Tecknet M009.
So it's probably mouse software issue, not GPU-Z.

Checking the background - though I bought it from Aliexpress it might not be chinese...

Regardless buy a reputable mouse.

Also i guess you use a igp and not a gpu?

 

[N373r]

Regardless buy a reputable mouse.

Also i guess you use a igp and not a gpu?

I do use GTX 1070 not iGPU
Also have a MSI Clutch GM40 mouse which is somewhat more reputable but responds the same. And have some other mice but I suspect it's not hardware related problem.


Ha. I edited before this post, that latest 10 Insider build fixed the problem. But after restart the problem was back also lost about 1/4 of GPU capability - Fire strike 12000 instead of 17000
Reverted back to older build.
So I don't recommend 19002.1 build. But thats another matter.


Edit again - the rubberbanding did go away after couple restarts. Still Windows 10 Pro Build 18999.1

 

[N373r]

Well "good" news - not only GPU-Z has the problem, now on latest 10 insider build 19013.1000 - and CPU-Z windows has even longer "rubber band" and even with 500Hz usb polling rate!

 

[hearnia_2k]

Well "good" news - not only GPU-Z has the problem, now on latest 10 insider build 19013.1000 - and CPU-Z windows has even longer "rubber band" and even with 500Hz usb polling rate!

I have the same thing with cpu-z and gpu-z.

I have Win 10 build 19564 right now, but seen it on earlier builds too.
I have currently got a the following spec:

I5-9600k @ per core speeds, peaking at 5.1GHz
32GB (2x16GB) Crucial Ballistix LT
Asrock Z390 Phantom Gaming ITX/AC
RTX 2080 Super
1TB Samsung 970 Evo
500W Silverstone SX500-LG v2 (yes only a 500w, eek!)

Everything else runs fine. I suspect the window movement like this is something to do with reading the sensors constantly perhaps?

 

[N373r]

Seems still something to do with mouse polling rate or some motherboard sensors, when lowering polling rate to 250Hz all is almost normal.

 

[Naki]

hearnia_2k -- what mouse do you use?
Does this mobo have both USB 2.0 and 3.0 ports? What kind of USB port is the mouse plugged in to?
Is this a wired or wireless mouse?

Also, what version is your Windows 10 OS? You listed Build, but version matters more, such as: 1803, 1809, 1903/etc.

EDIT: Okay, seems you are using Windows 10 Insider Preview, Fast channel. And this by design is meant to have some bugs!
Unless your job is to test Windows 10 Insider Preview Fast channel and you get paid for this, then it may be a good idea to switch to Slow channel, which Microsoft recommends anyway.

The advantages of Slow channel are that there should be less bugs in total, and less major/showstopper bugs too.
The disadvantage of Slow channel is it gets updates much less often than Fast channel, so if a certain bug "hits" you, you may need to wait longer for a fix - such as a few weeks, or in extreme cases - even 1-2+ months.
Also, using Slow channel you may not get new features as fast as with Fast channel, but have in mind that those new features may be partially broken in Fast channel when they are first released.

I am on Slow here, and right now some of my USB 3.0 devices (I have lots, mostly external HDDs/SSDs & docking stations) - notably a fast, good USB 3.0 SATA HDD/SSD adapter - simply fail to connect with a Code 10 error, and this has been the case for months now, with no fix in sight.
(It was mentioned at some point as a known issue, but when MS will fix it, or if they even totally forgot about this bug, I don't know.)

EDIT #2: Do you have any special reasons to want to have Insider Preview at all? If not, you can choose to switch back to "RTM/Stable" version by setting the "Stop getting preview builds" option to ON, but this works in such a way that once you set this setting it will then take months for this to happen - you cannot switch until Microsoft allows/decides it can happen.