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Graphics Card Prices Could Soar Amid Increasing Memory Prices

lexluthermiester said:
Let's hope they do that VERY soon! This cryptomining induced GPU shortage is pathetic!
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It's not cryptomining induced this time, it's industry wide. We have car factories over here shutting down temporarily because they can't source needed chips. Mining may have seen a surge recently, but it surely isn't at the root of the problem. This time.
 
bug said:
It's not cryptomining induced this time, it's industry wide. We have car factories over here shutting down temporarily because they can't source needed chips. Mining may have seen a surge recently, but it surely isn't at the root of the problem. This time.
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Perhaps, but it is a major contributor.
 
lexluthermiester said:
Perhaps, but it is a major contributor.
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I think the general lack of fab capacity, transport (we have even a shipping containers shortage) is a bigger contributor. But I can't prove it :P
 
bug said:
I think the general lack of fab capacity, transport (we have even a shipping containers shortage) is a bigger contributor. But I can't prove it :p
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I'm not buying that. Fab capacity has expanded in the last two years. Even with CV19 factors, we should not be having these kinds of shortages, until you factor in crypto. Sorry man, but crypto is to blame now like it was a few years ago and it needs to be put to an end.
 
lexluthermiester said:
I'm not buying that. Fab capacity has expanded in the last two years. Even with CV19 factors, we should not be having these kinds of shortages, until you factor in crypto. Sorry man, but crypto is to blame now like it was a few years ago and it needs to be put to an end.
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For me the evidence of Crypto is more on the Nvidia side with the farms getting 30+ cards each. Where the FAB problem is AMD as they have so many products on 7nm plus demand from other players as well that the supply of products is a trickle for thinigs like the 6000 series chips and high core count CPUs (5900X).
 
lexluthermiester said:
I'm not buying that. Fab capacity has expanded in the last two years. Even with CV19 factors, we should not be having these kinds of shortages, until you factor in crypto. Sorry man, but crypto is to blame now like it was a few years ago and it needs to be put to an end.
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Of course fab capacity has expanded, but demand has expanded faster. Smartphone chips built on cutting-edge process, (tons of) chips in every car, "AI powered" everything. The demand comes from a myriad of places, not just GPU makers. Even AMD, with their much better chips, have a hard time gaining market share. Because they simply can't build enough of those.
 
bug said:
Of course fab capacity has expanded, but demand has expanded faster. Smartphone chips built on cutting-edge process, (tons of) chips in every car, "AI powered" everything. The demand comes from a myriad of places, not just GPU makers. Even AMD, with their much better chips, have a hard time gaining market share. Because they simply can't build enough of those.
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I'm not saying you're are specifically wrong on any one of those points, only that that you seem to be discounting the effect crypto is having. These new GPU's are very powerful compared to the previous generation of GPUs, especially from AMD, which makes using them to mine crypto especially viable from a hash yield point of view, thus demand skyrockets. This cash-grab form of greed is doing widespread harm to entire sectors of the PC industry and it needs to be stamped out of existence if not changed.
 
lexluthermiester said:
I'm not saying you're are specifically wrong on any one of those points, only that that you seem to be discounting the effect crypto is having. These new GPU's are very powerful compared to the previous generation of GPUs, especially from AMD, which makes using them to mine crypto especially viable from a hash yield point of view, thus demand skyrockets. This cash-grab form of greed is doing widespread harm to entire sectors of the PC industry and it needs to be stamped out of existence if not changed.
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Well yes, I thought I was pretty clear: my gut feeling tells me the main reason that drives prices up lies elsewhere. But that's just my gut feeling: mining only exacerbates a problem that's already there.
But I don't care much, even at MSRP these things are still darn expensive.
 
It would be hard to do but Nvidia needs a slap on the head. They tell us that there will be limited supply, They tease us with getting all of these new cards only to be postponed. The kicker for me though is the lie they are telling that they don't support Crypto mining. All the while we are getting more information about miners with farms of 3080s. I use the 3080 because that seems to be the hardest GPU in the world for a Gamer to buy.
 
bug said:
my gut feeling tells me the main reason that drives prices up lies elsewhere.
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I understood you, no worries. What I'm saying is that it doesn't make any sense in the absense of the resurgence of crypto mining, which there has been. The evidence is all over the place.
 
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