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So I'm new to this forum and all that, I joined to get other peoples thoughts on whether or not I should change parts in my computers build that I'm planning to buy :)
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My NEW base build: (Just the essentials, not the extras)

Case: CM Storm Trooper w/Window

Motherboard: ASUS Crosshair V Formula-Z

CPU: AMD FX-8350 8 Core Processor

Graphics Card: Crossfired MSI Radeon HD7970 3GB OC (x2)

RAM: Corsair 16GB (2x8GB) Vengeance Performance DDR3 1866Mhz

Optical Drives: LG CH12LS28 12X BD-R Blu-ray DVD Combo Drive (x2)

Hardrive 1: Seagate Barracuda 3TB (For general storage, movies, music, etc.)

Hardrive 2: Corsair Neutron 256GB 2.5' SSD (For my OS and Games)

Psu: Cooler Master Silent Pro M2 850W

After Market CPU Fan: Zalman 9900 Max-B 135mm

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So yeah, thats my NEW base build. It currently costs $2518. Any adjustments, additions or improvements you could recommend for me would be greatly appreciated, if possible try to keep the cost not too high.
Also you may have noticed I'm trying to build a fairly decent gaming computer so hopefully you guys will know if something i've chosen is incompatible with something else, etc.
Thanks!
 
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Looks good.

i'ld cut the sound card and usb card from the list; just use the onboard.
 
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If your spending that much, why not Intel core i7 3770K? Just saying. Not that 8350 is bad, 3770K is better.
 
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If your spending that much, why not Intel core i7 3770K? Just saying. Not that 8350 is bad, 3770K is better.
This in a nutshell, you have the money to do it and are trying to build the best gaming rig possible going anything but 3770K with your budget is near unthinkable.
 

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If your spending that much, why not Intel core i7 3770K? Just saying. Not that 8350 is bad, 3770K is better.
This in a nutshell, you have the money to do it and are trying to build the best gaming rig possible going anything but 3770K with your budget is near unthinkable.
Jesus, I was thinking the same thing when I saw the price that build was and what it would contain. For that price he could do a Sandy Bridge E rig as well.
 
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CORSAIR AX860i 860W Digital ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Re...

G.SKILL Trident X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DD... or if you are ok with 16gb max and price is in limits G.SKILL Trident X Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DD... (only useful in intel build)

OCZ Vector Series VTR1-25SAT3-256G Solid State Dr... or SAMSUNG MZ-7PD256BW - Newegg.com and consider also this http://www.techpowerup.com/182623/OCZ-Vertex-5-SSD-Series-Detailed.html

think about GIGABYTE GV-R797TO-3GD Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition ...

you dont need additional usb card
why you need wi-fi card. you will get better speed on cable.
and as all above said - why not intel?
 
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if you keep the crosshair board ''SupremeFX X-Fi 2 - Play with ultra-real cinematic in-game surround sound'' onboard sound.

why two dvd drives? (I don't even have one lol)
ditto on the usb card, mobo has plenty
ditto on wifi card unless youre stealing wifi lol
maybe better reviewed psu
if I had the cash id crossfire 7970s
motherboard has great fan control

and don't forget cooling all this is essential

and like the masters above me said i7

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Thanks for all the posts and assistance guys, I have removed the USB slots, Wi-Fi Card, Fan Controller and Sound Card from the list now :)

As for other feedback relating to going i7 (This is my first build so I hardly know much on anything yet) I heard that Intel, whilst a bigger brand is overpriced and not as good for gaming? Also the intel 3770K is for overlocking if I'm not mistaken? And removes some customisability to your computer and last but not least only has 4 cores.
I figured if I want to be gaming I should have as many cores in my processor as I can within my price range and the AMD CPU I chose has 8 cores. Like I said I don't actually know if I'm right but still.
And if I change the processor I will need to change the motherboard won't I? It's an AMD socket motherboard, pretty sure it wont work with an intel processor and finally as you may have noticed I'm trying to theme my computer Red/Black (except the graphics card) but I might take a look into the radeon 7970 crossfire, although I have no clue how to crossfire and it will be rather pricey :p
Also what should I use to cool them? I'm assuming with 2 Graphics Cards I will need more cooling and I'm not getting WC.
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Thanks for the input and I hope I keep getting posts because the more ideas I have thrown at me, the better my computer will potentially be :D
 
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Thanks for all the posts and assistance guys, I have removed the USB slots, Wi-Fi Card, Fan Controller and Sound Card from the list now :)

As for other feedback relating to going i7 (This is my first build so I hardly know much on anything yet) I heard that Intel, whilst a bigger brand is overpriced and not as good for gaming? Also the intel 3770K is for overlocking if I'm not mistaken? And removes some customisability to your computer and last but not least only has 4 cores.
I figured if I want to be gaming I should have as many cores in my processor as I can within my price range and the AMD CPU I chose has 8 cores. Like I said I don't actually know if I'm right but still.
And if I change the processor I will need to change the motherboard won't I? It's an AMD socket motherboard, pretty sure it wont work with an intel processor and finally as you may have noticed I'm trying to theme my computer Red/Black (except the graphics card) but I might take a look into the radeon 7970 crossfire, although I have no clue how to crossfire and it will be rather pricey :p
Also what should I use to cool them? I'm assuming with 2 Graphics Cards I will need more cooling and I'm not getting WC.
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Thanks for the input and I hope I keep getting posts because the more ideas I have thrown at me, the better my computer will potentially be :D

3770K has hyper-threading which is 4 virtual cores with the 4 cores. Without going into too much detail, it is better than the 8350 in almost every benchmark. as mentioned, the 8350 is good but 3770K would be a better choice.. If your not overclocking, no biggie, 3770K is a better choice and if you get the itch, the club is there for you.
 

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3770K has hyper-threading which is 4 virtual cores with the 4 cores. Without going into too much detail, it is better than the 8350 in almost every benchmark. as mentioned, the 8350 is good but 3770K would be a better choice.. If your not overclocking, no biggie, 3770K is a better choice and if you get the itch, the club is there for you.
Yeah I guess, I think I'll still stick with the 8350 just so that I can keep the motherboard and other parts that are compatible with AMD, mainly just so I dont have to go through the process of reselecting all my bits 'n pieces.
I have decided to get the 2 MSI Radeon HD7970's and get a crossfire for them, I'm assuming that they will come with a crossfire?
Heres the link: http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=193_1309&products_id=22890
 
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Yeah I guess, I think I'll still stick with the 8350 just so that I can keep the motherboard and other parts that are compatible with AMD, mainly just so I dont have to go through the process of reselecting all my bits 'n pieces.
I have decided to get the 2 MSI Radeon HD7970's and get a crossfire for them, I'm assuming that they will come with a crossfire?
Heres the link: http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=193_1309&products_id=22890
that will work fine
 

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I have changed my PSU from a 750W to a 1000W, I figured that with the second graphics card I might need a bit mroe "juice" for my computer.
Also I currently have 16gb of ram in two 8gb sticks at 1866mhz. I was wondering if there are any better ones I could get? They would need to be Red if possible but Black also works, and have to be compatible with an AMD CPU/Motherboard. Might be a bit tricky but still :)
 
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Your build is looking pretty good :)

Also, that AMD 8350 is a fine chip. No worries there. Plus it is roughly $125-150 cheaper than the Intel chip.

The GTX 680 4GB is a beast of a card (Note the 4GB and not 2GB) and will play your games just fine. And you will save some money as opposed to crossfiring two Radeon cards.

Oh and you can stick with the 750 wart PSU if you go the Nvidia route.
 
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Your build is looking pretty good :)

Also, that AMD 8350 is a fine chip. No worries there. Plus it is roughly $125-150 cheaper than the Intel chip.

The GTX 680 4GB is a beast of a card (Note the 4GB and not 2GB) and will play your games just fine. And you will save some money as opposed to crossfiring two Radeon cards.

Oh and you can stick with the 750 wart PSU if you go the Nvidia route.
Not if you get it fro Microcenter
 
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Not if you get it fro Microcenter
There is still a $120 difference going through Microcenter. If you're talking about the price difference in chips?

To sweeten the pot even more... Microcenter is offering $40 of ANY motherboard when you purchase an AMD CPU and Motherboard together :)

So that means he can get that ASUS Crosshair for $199 and the chip for $179
 
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There is still a $120 difference going through Microcenter. If you're talking about the price difference in chips?

To sweeten the pot even more... Microcenter is offering $40 of ANY motherboard when you purchase an AMD CPU and Motherboard together :)

So that means he can get that ASUS Crosshair for $199 and the chip for $179.00
LOL wrong fella.. FYI 3770K is $229 at Microcenter in store only. So, that would make 8350 at $109? :slap:



 

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There is still a $120 difference going through Microcenter. If you're talking about the price difference in chips?

To sweeten the pot even more... Microcenter is offering $40 of ANY motherboard when you purchase an AMD CPU and Motherboard together :)

So that means he can get that ASUS Crosshair for $199 and the chip for $179
As much as I would love getting my motherboard and CPU $40 cheaper each, from the looks of things you can only buy the items I chose from the store itself, and the only stores they have appear to be in America :( unfortunately I live in Australia.

Also with drdeathx's post, I couldnt help but notice in the comparison between the CPU's, I really had to love the fact that the AMD had a 0.1 extra rating score haha.
 
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As much as I would love getting my motherboard and CPU $40 cheaper each, from the looks of things you can only buy the items I chose from the store itself, and the only stores they have appear to be in America :( unfortunately I live in Australia.
too bad

I have changed my PSU from a 750W to a 1000W, I figured that with the second graphics card I might need a bit mroe "juice" for my computer.
Also I currently have 16gb of ram in two 8gb sticks at 1866mhz. I was wondering if there are any better ones I could get? They would need to be Red if possible but Black also works, and have to be compatible with an AMD CPU/Motherboard. Might be a bit tricky but still :)
750 Watt is plenty.
 
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7970x2 beat a single 680 and sometimes a titan.

i forgot that the intel has the maximus not crosshair. or is there another one?

and your build sounds sweet!

i would greatly advise you on thinking about cpu heatsink and fans.

your build is similar to how mine will end up, apart from i went asrock fatality instead of crosshair. (cheaper)
 
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"LOL wrong fella.. FYI 3770K is $229 at Microcenter in store only. So, that would make 8350 at $109?"

I stand corrected :)

I was looking at the 3770S lol

Also, it looks like he won't be able to shop at Microcenter.

So now he has to explore some other options for his shopping experience.
 
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G.SKILL Trident X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DD...

why you need crossfire? how many monitors you will use? single 7970 is more then enough to play all current games and i doubt there will be game any time soon that can give it hard times.
crossfire could cause you troubles with some games because of missing or bad sli/crossfire profiles and even if amd fix all issues with their drivers you still can end disabling corssfire in order to play some games. performance gains from corssfire wont be so big so that wort ~500$. i would invest that money in better quality parts now (psu, ram, cooler, ssd etc.) and add 2nd card latter (if needed).
i my previouse post i gave you some links you should realy have a look on them. there is review section on the site you can check reviews there. easiest way to get good impression about parts you are going to buy (or find something better). check also gtx titan/titan sli reviews there are interstig results from crossfire/sli benchmarks.
 

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7970x2 beat a single 680 and sometimes a titan.
i would greatly advise you on thinking about cpu heatsink and fans.
Would you be able to give me some pointers as to what I should buy? Not sure I'd easily find something that would fit on my motherboard :) also I'm uncertain as to how/where to install them in my case haha, Case Link: http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=25_31&products_id=19722

As to ne6togadno's post, I am thinking of getting a second monitor not too long after I complete the build, I was also informed that having two Graphics Cards relieve each others stress as one does the X-Axis graphics and the other does the Y-Axis, instead of one card doing both. Also the RAM you recommended: G.SKILL Trident X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DD... As awsome as they look and the fact that they have a better Mhz rate than my current one, from what I can tell they only run with Intel CPU's and I'm sticking with AMD :p
 

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I'm starting to lean towards Water Cooling for my CPU, however I have no clue what I actually need for the system, (I am going to get this installed by actual electritions instead of accidently causing a leak myself) But could someone give me a list of the equipment I need? Also any affordable but reliable brands are appreciated, thanks :)
 
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