High Temps on Scythe Mugen

[pantherx12]

Sending you a PM with some links : ]

 

[MikeTyson]

Update:

Installed Akasa AK-961 instead, idling around 46C (with RealTemp) which is LESS than the Scythe Mugen, but only by a margin...

However it proves that even a smaller cooler is doing better with my CPU.. but then again, my temps should be lower than 46 at idle with AS5... so maybe this is just a faulty thermal diode?

BIOS reports my temps at 26C, so what's going on? BIOS is updated to latest version

Just ran a load test with prime95, maxed out at 59C with RealTemp

P.S. Thanks panther

Edit: Conflict between CoreTemp and RealTemp

 

[OneMoar]

check it again with HWmonitor also try some mx3 or mx4 if you can get it ac5 while good is getting a bit long in the tooth

 

[MikeTyson]

HWMonitor reports the same temps as CoreTemp (the lower ones) so maybe RealTemp is wrong?

 

[p_o_s_pc]

HWMonitor reports the same temps as CoreTemp (the lower ones) so maybe RealTemp is wrong?

most of the time people tend to go by real temp.i would go with the higher numbers just for safety.

on my i7 core temp shows lower temps by ~2-3c then realtemp so i use real temp because i feel better going with the higher number even if it is running the lower temp.

 

[MikeTyson]

i cant actually find this "Xigmatek R1283" ANYWHERE! i wanted it cos of the backplate but it doesnt seem to exist...

 

[p_o_s_pc]

i cant actually find this "Xigmatek R1283" ANYWHERE! i wanted it cos of the backplate but it doesnt seem to exist...

look for a "Dark Knight-S1283V REV.W"
that should be what your wanting

 

[theonedub]

I would see if this guy over @ EVGA would ship his DarkKnight overseas to you, he is asking $20. Here is a link to his heatware: http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=70639. Drop him an email or PM @ EVGA if you are a member with access to the Marketplace there.

 

[MikeTyson]

I would see if this guy over @ EVGA would ship his DarkKnight overseas to you, he is asking $20. Here is a link to his heatware: http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=70639. Drop him an email or PM @ EVGA if you are a member with access to the Marketplace there.

Hmmm it'd probs cost me just as much as a brand new one to get it shipped here...

I've found one for around £30 including free delivery, is this the best cooler I can get for this money regardless of backplate or no backplate?

I've also had a look at the CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Plus which seems to do a little better for the same price, and supports 2 fans for push-pull...

I think I may try my Scythe Mugen again with 2x120mm fans in push-pull and then another 80mm case fan helping to suck the air away straight after it's blown out from the Scythe. I'll do it later on and report back, I just hate having to take the whole motherboard out to be able to get my fingers to push the clips in properly... that's what broke my mobo the last time

Can anybody offer a way of pushing down on the clips without bending the mobo? Iknow you guys have tricks for some stuff

 

[MikeTyson]

IMPORTANT UPDATE:

Installed Scythe Mugen again, with 2X120MM fans (push pull config) and no change in temps, AT ALL

i think this processor or mobo is definitely broken, because there's no way in f****** hell this thing is still so hot after all this time with a push pull mugen on top and AS5...

i've even ENSURED all the pins have clicked one by one (INSTALLED IT DIAGONALLY) and double checked afterwards, AND even taken the measure of leaving the system on my desk flat out so the weight of the cooler ensures even more contact with the processor JUST IN CASE it's loose at some point

after all this, absolutely no change.............. to be fair this E6600 came out of a rig (Mesh Computers) that blew up so it may be faulty, may not be... but I reckon it is, cos this is bullshit

 

[Peter1986C]

Afaik, such a cpu is fine until 72C @ load.

 

[MikeTyson]

Afaik, such a cpu is fine until 72C @ load.

Hmmm here's something important I just found:

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/intel-dts-specs,news-29460.html

it says the TJMAX for the E6xxx series of CPUs (B2 stepping, which mine is) is 70C, which if correct would make my temps 20 degrees lower than RealTemp reports.. and considering Intel released this information, I dunno what to believe anymore...

But I will say, BIOS reports my CPU temp at 25C, so I'm not sure what to believe ! :|

 

[arnoo1]

that are bad temps 48c idle, maybe bad contact or the cpu/heatsink is scratched, re apply thermal shit over whole cpu ,just thin

i have a e6750 (also 65nm) with Vcore @ 1.024V and load temps are 42-43c, idle 15c. room temp =18c and cpu heatsink was a scythe ninja 2 with default 1100rpm fan and some arctic silver 5

 

[MikeTyson]

well if your room temp is 18c and your idling at 15c there's something wrong

 

[theonedub]

well if your room temp is 18c and your idling at 15c there's something wrong

Correct (mainly just proves the sensors really arent all that accurate under ~50C)

 

[MikeTyson]

Correct (mainly just proves the sensors really arent all that accurate under ~50C)

So what's your two cents on my situation?

 

[theonedub]

I think you just have a chip that runs a little warm. I had a Q9300 that had similar temps and it ran fine up to when I sold it. Rather than get another cooler I would see if there was a backplate made for the Mugen (or if the MugenII backplate would work), and if not, just leave it be.

 

[arnoo1]

well if your room temp is 18c and your idling at 15c there's something wrong

nope

internal temps FTW, that's also the temp uou see if your are in the bios, i have a few asus boards and all show the same, shitty software isn't going lower than 25, and what do you think? there is a massive heatsink with fan on the than "green" cpu just tdp off 65w when Vcore is 1.2v. and also my case have 3 140mm 68cfm intake fans

 

[theonedub]

No air cooler will cool a chip to below ambient temperatures.

 

[pantherx12]

Mike buy one of those coolers I linked you to, they smash the shit out of any xigmatek cooler lol

Hell they're better than most thermalright/noc stuff except for their dual tower coolers.

 

[assaulter_99]

No air cooler will cool a chip to below ambient temperatures.

I second that, I also have an e6750 and ambient temps are 20" and my cpu is idling @ 32" (3.4 ghz)

 

[MikeTyson]

Mike buy one of those coolers I linked you to, they smash the shit out of any xigmatek cooler lol

Hell they're better than most thermalright/noc stuff except for their dual tower coolers.

Yea but the thing is I don't know if it's worth me buying another cooler, cos it seems no matter what cooler I use the temps never move...

 

[assaulter_99]

Yea but the thing is I don't know if it's worth me buying another cooler, cos it seems no matter what cooler I use the temps never move...

True indeed, after all you've done, I guess its safe to call it a day. I'm quite surprised though, its pretty strange to see a e6*** at stock speed @ 60" on load. It would be normal maybe on the stock intel fan, but even then... If I were you, I wouldn't bother throwing any more dough in it.

Well I just did some diggings, even the stock intel fan should bring you up to 3.2ghz/60" with no hassle. So you either had bad luck or something is wrong.

 

[vega22]

i bet your ihs is warped as hell and needs lapping.

i also think you should give everest a try, its much better at reading the right tj max.

if you dont want to take the core readings as true just go off what the bios is reading the socket temp as.

 

[heky]

Your tj temps are wrong. You have to set it to the correct values in realtemp and in coretemp. You also never mentioned on what volts you are running your chip. At 1.5v it will idle that high. But as a said, correct the tj values and you will be all set. That Mugen is more than enough for your chip.