How are you all coping with increasing PC hardware and tech prices around the world?

jboydgolfer · Mar 21, 2021

r9 said:
Over 10700k.

i dont know, i dont have the 10700k. i have an 8600k,

i suppose if you had a 10 series intel Chip, making the switch to an 11 series would be silly, but i dont do one step upgrades, i wait for a few to pass

but when the 10700k released, it was $410, which is my point, its no more expensive than it was a year ago.
i suppose your mistake is comparing an outgoing chip, with an incoming chips price, the problem with that is every time an older generation product is about ot be replaced, its price is lowered. its common practice

Soulwatcher · Mar 21, 2021

I need a better gpu but there's no way I am going to pay 3x the price to scalpers.

bobbybluz · Mar 21, 2021

Still looking for stupid cheap deals on the local Craigslist and finding them once in a very rare while. Not a gamer so my stash of GPU's will suffice for the time being.

Gmr_Chick · Mar 22, 2021

Sithaer said:
I guess it depends on how you look at it/different perspective.

I mean yeah I was planning to finally upgrade to a RX 5600 XT/5700 or 2060/S as my next card for 3-4 years. 'around 3 is the norm for me'

Yet there are ppl who have that or better and complain that they can't buy new cards, while I'm getting by with a card thats half/ or even weaker than what those ppl already own.

But then again I'm not even playing at 1440p let alone 4k nor high refresh rate.

Hahaha, I feel you! Like, for the life of me I can't understand people like that -- people who already own either a 3080 or 6800XT -- both of which would have little difficulty blowing the doors off my 1660 Super -- but complain that neither card is "enough" and then blow even more money on a 3090 or 6900XT....and then complain yet again about the performance not being what they expected! :laugh:

Like, if you can't be happy with a 3090 or 6900XT, you have a problem and should probably seek help, lol.

I'm not playing at 1440p or 4K (1080p), but I do like to play at high refresh rate. My monitor is rated for 165Hz but I only play at max refresh on games that aren't very demanding. For a game like Battlefront II, I usually like to play between 120 and 144Hz, and no DX12. Poor GPU can't take DX12.

GeeBee said:
I really need to start a new hobby or I will start breaking things around the house.

Alternatively, I could just relapse back to drinking which I'd really hate to - considering the mental effort it took to call it quits.

Model building is a great hobby, and it's way cheaper than the PC-building hobby, by far! I love it. I mainly build Gundam kits and what's great about them is you really don't even need paint (at least for the more modern ones. Older kits, like from the 90's, definitely need paint) and can be built straight out of the box. They even come with stickers (for the Gundam's eyes and such). If giants robots aren't your thing, there's TONS out there -- airplanes, cars, ships, tanks. Truly something for everyone!

Sithaer · Mar 22, 2021

Gmr_Chick said:
Hahaha, I feel you! Like, for the life of me I can't understand people like that -- people who already own either a 3080 or 6800XT -- both of which would have little difficulty blowing the doors off my 1660 Super -- but complain that neither card is "enough" and then blow even more money on a 3090 or 6900XT....and then complain yet again about the performance not being what they expected! Like, if you can't be happy with a 3090 or 6900XT, you have a problem and should probably seek help, lol.

I'm not playing at 1440p or 4K (1080p), but I do like to play at high refresh rate. My monitor is rated for 165Hz but I only play at max refresh on games that aren't very demanding. For a game like Battlefront II, I usually like to play between 120 and 144Hz, and no DX12. Poor GPU can't take DX12.

Model building is a great hobby, and it's way cheaper than the PC-building hobby, by far! I love it. I mainly build Gundam kits and what's great about them is you really don't even need paint (at least for the more modern ones. Older kits, like from the 90's, definitely need paint) and can be built straight out of the box. They even come with stickers (for the Gundam's eyes and such). If giants robots aren't your thing, there's TONS out there -- airplanes, cars, ships, tanks. Truly something for everyone!

Yea its just how it is with some ppl, I don't mind it as long as they don't post degrading/snob comments about lower end hardware ppl.
Its not even a 3080 or a 3090 imo, but ppl complaining about having 'crappy' dated 2070/80 supers and such and not able to buy new cards, yeh well I can't feel sorry for such. :rolleyes:

I tested a borrowed 1660 super in late 2020 and I liked it and it was a solid uplift from my 570, now I regret not buying a normal priced one back then.. 'I thought that prices will go even lower actually'

Looking at this situation I'm actually glad that I even have this 570, local used market is completely messed up and idk what the heck I would buy if I had to buy a GPU right now.

Gmr_Chick · Mar 22, 2021

Sithaer said:
Yea its just how it is with some ppl, I don't mind it as long as they don't post degrading/snob comments about lower end hardware ppl.
Its not even a 3080 or a 3090 imo, but ppl complaining about having 'crappy' dated 2070/80 supers and such and not able to buy new cards, yeh well I can't feel sorry for such.
I tested a borrowed 1660 super in late 2020 and I liked it and it was a solid uplift from my 570, now I regret not buying a normal priced one back then.. 'I thought that prices will go even lower actually'

Looking at this situation I'm actually glad that I even have this 570, local used market is completely messed up and idk what the heck I would buy if I had to buy a GPU right now.

Very true, yeah. I wouldn't refuse a 20 series Super if offered one, because at least then I'd be able to actually use DLSS. I also wouldn't refuse a 5600XT or 5700XT, either, because then I'd at least be able to use my monitor to its full potential (it's a Freesync 2 HDR monitor, but isn't even "G-Sync compatible" according to my Nvidia control panel). The thing that really sucks about this whole GPU situation is the fact that you can't even buy USED last-gen cards for reasonable prices now! It's definitely a crappy situation all around.

MIRTAZAPINE · Mar 22, 2021

Gmr_Chick said:
Very true, yeah. I wouldn't refuse a 20 series Super if offered one, because at least then I'd be able to actually use DLSS. I also wouldn't refuse a 5600XT or 5700XT, either, because then I'd at least be able to use my monitor to its full potential (it's a Freesync 2 HDR monitor, but isn't even "G-Sync compatible" according to my Nvidia control panel). The thing that really sucks about this whole GPU situation is the fact that you can't even buy USED last-gen cards for reasonable prices now! It's definitely a crappy situation all around.

Even 9xx series cards like the GTX 970 are hard to find now. The only modern gpu there is around here is the GT1030 only its a step up from onboard even that have a 10%- 20% increase. For now if you have a Gtx 1050 and above you pretty much lucky with that. I could hold out without a card as I am using an RTX 2070 mobile for laptop. Touch wood if laptop prices increases. Anyway this rather overkill for my use as a 1650 would be sufficient for me. Just need some acceleration for productivity software like cad.

I guess I be buying a GTX 7XX series as backup for deskstop or just go for an AMD APU now as a spare.

Atomic77 · Mar 22, 2021

Nothing like the computers and laptops that are advertised at places like Best Buy and Costco. I've had all ready built computers my whole life. I am not going to change a thing all though I may be getting a new desktop computer even though I just got a laptop last summer.

nguyen · Mar 22, 2021

Atomic77 said:
Nothing like the computers and laptops that are advertised at places like Best Buy and Costco. I've had all ready built computers my whole life. I am not going to change a thing all though I may be getting a new desktop computer even though I just got a laptop last summer.

Nothing wrong with pre-built, just make sure you have 2 sticks of RAM instead of 1 in your pre-built, which would cost you 30% performance.

Isaac` · Mar 22, 2021

why

plat said:
I used to scoff (lol) at the 1030 and GT710 cards; now they're looking pretty good as I coax my somewhat aging GTX 1080 along.

That's pretty much all my area Micro Center has right now--placeholders. Oh and one PowerColor Radeon RX 570 which prob. won't last the day. It's nuts.

wont the 570 last the day?

Athlonite · Mar 22, 2021

Poorly all PC hardware is excessively expensive here but luckily I managed to score my RX6800 while it was on special I wouldn't want to buy it now though CPU's are a ridiculous price $786NZD for an AMD R7 5800X that's 200 more than I paid for my R7 3700X and Ram here is also a no go if you want more than 2x8GB DDR4 3200 CL16 and any SSD of 1 TB is just getting ridiculous to buy here aswell

toilet pepper · Mar 22, 2021

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Gmr_Chick said:
Very true, yeah. I wouldn't refuse a 20 series Super if offered one, because at least then I'd be able to actually use DLSS. I also wouldn't refuse a 5600XT or 5700XT, either, because then I'd at least be able to use my monitor to its full potential (it's a Freesync 2 HDR monitor, but isn't even "G-Sync compatible" according to my Nvidia control panel). The thing that really sucks about this whole GPU situation is the fact that you can't even buy USED last-gen cards for reasonable prices now! It's definitely a crappy situation all around.

Have you tried displayport with that. I have a bottom of the line chinese freesync monitor and gsync works.

Jill Valentine · Mar 22, 2021

Otherwise nothing dramatic here in Finland but GPU prices are insane just like in everywhere else. Got my 1080 Ti used with a cheap price so I have nothing to complain myself.

PooPipeBoy · Mar 22, 2021

plat said:
I used to scoff (lol) at the 1030 and GT710 cards; now they're looking pretty good as I coax my somewhat aging GTX 1080 along.

That's pretty much all my area Micro Center has right now--placeholders. Oh and one PowerColor Radeon RX 570 which prob. won't last the day. It's nuts.

People talking about the 1080 like it's a fossil, meanwhile I'm on a 1060 and it feels like a spring chicken.

fma67 · Mar 22, 2021

#1 is not the time to change hardware (outside you intend to buy relatively older ones)
#2 in case of "emergency" dig on forums, and hope (is happening) you will find people with common sense that are selling used hardware for the real price

Gmr_Chick · Mar 22, 2021

toilet pepper said:
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Have you tried displayport with that. I have a bottom of the line chinese freesync monitor and gsync works.

Yep, I'm running a Club3D VESA-certified DP cable. This is what it says in my Nvidia Control Panel:

TheLostSwede · Mar 22, 2021

Gmr_Chick said:
Yep, I'm running a Club3D VESA-certified DP cable. This is what it says in my Nvidia Control Panel:

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So what happens when you put a tick in Enable G-Sync?
I had a monitor last year that wasn't on the official list, but worked 100%.
Thea validation just means Nvidia has validated it and it meets all their expectations and that there shouldn't be any glitches.

Gmr_Chick · Mar 22, 2021

TheLostSwede said:
So what happens when you put a tick in Enable G-Sync?
I had a monitor last year that wasn't on the official list, but worked 100%.
Thea validation just means Nvidia has validated it and it meets all their expectations and that there shouldn't be any glitches.

I'm...not exactly sure? I just figured that even ticking the "enable" box wouldn't actually do anything because it's not a G-Sync Compatible monitor... :oops:

Could always give it a try, I suppose. Not like it's gonna blow up the monitor or something :laugh:

INSTG8R · Mar 22, 2021

Gmr_Chick said:
Yep, I'm running a Club3D VESA-certified DP cable. This is what it says in my Nvidia Control Panel:

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It’s definitely not your cable. Also use the same one and would recommend it to anyone.

tabascosauz · Mar 22, 2021

Gmr_Chick said:
Yep, I'm running a Club3D VESA-certified DP cable. This is what it says in my Nvidia Control Panel:

View attachment 193346

Why not just tick the box? Your monitor is Freesync Premium, aka G-sync Compatible. Which is pointless jargon for "it is designed to work with G-sync and Freesync up to 165Hz"

I've used 60Hz and 75Hz Freesync panels that aren't validated for G-sync but work fine, sometimes a quick trip to NV control panel is needed.

My S2721DGF and MAG274QRF enable instantly when plugged in and give a NV control panel prompt to visit Gsync settings, but it looks like you just need to manually hit the enable box. Understandably so as I guess Gigabyte must be using a lesser known VA panel.

TheLostSwede · Mar 22, 2021

Gmr_Chick said:
I'm...not exactly sure? I just figured that even ticking the "enable" box wouldn't actually do anything because it's not a G-Sync Compatible monitor...

Could always give it a try, I suppose. Not like it's gonna blow up the monitor or something

No, but it might go glitchy. Just give it a try, it actually works on a lot of screens that aren't verified.

btarunr · Mar 22, 2021

I'm just not buying anything unless I really need it. All the impulse purchasing has stopped. I'm still on previous-gen hardware such as 2700X, 2080S, WD_Black 2018, etc.

I've come to realize from this pricing crisis that when the prices are nice and you're ready to upgrade, always go for the fastest hardware so you're future-proofed (and surge-proofed) for the next 3-4 years at least.

Vayra86 · Mar 22, 2021

Coping just fine.... but that's me speaking from the perspective of having functional gear.

If my GPU would break now... dayum. I guess I'd be exploring my trading card game hobby a LOT more than is healthy... Would I then buy a supremely overpriced GPU at 1,5-2x MSRP?

Not in a million years and not even if I had the money a hundred times over...

kapone32 · Mar 22, 2021

As a system builder for the first time in 4 years I am using Intel CPUs in my builds. The 10400F is one of the best price/performance CPUs you can buy right now. Having said that I did score a few 3400Gs for $259.99 (CAD) the other day. Thankfully I do have some older GPUs that I can use with them and RX 570 4GB cards are still semi affordable. The GT710 is also readily available as well but I would rather spend the extra $50 and get a used 570.

Sithaer · Mar 22, 2021

Vayra86 said:
Coping just fine.... but that's me speaking from the perspective of having functional gear.

If my GPU would break now... dayum. I guess I'd be exploring my trading card game hobby a LOT more than is healthy... Would I then buy a supremely overpriced GPU at 1,5-2x MSRP?

Not in a million years and not even if I had the money a hundred times over...

I already made some backup plans just in case my GPU breaks down, most likely I will just grab an old used 7000 serie sub 50$ AMD card and play D2/D3 and Indie+retro games.

'still way better than being stuck with mobile gaming'

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