How do i fix windows garbage memory management

[Bill_Bright]

I'm not a pro or anything like that

I don't need one.

If you are not a pro, then you don't know if one is beneficial, or not. That' why claiming "I haven't had any issues in years", or as I said above, because "it didn't break Windows", makes no sense.

In fact, it is backwards thinking.

Not "seeing" benefits is not the same as not seeing issues or not breaking Windows.

I can think of no other feature in any other product in any industry in the entire universe where the users justify disabling it by using the excuse, "nothing broke when I disable it" so I must be right. But for some unknown reason, some think that is totally justifiable with Microsoft Windows.

The Page File is there to help improve performance. Having it enabled does NOT degrade performance or in any other way have detrimental effects - as long as the user ensures there is sufficient free disk space for the OS to operate freely within.

So how does "because it didn't break" make sense to disable it or dink with the default settings?

Microsoft wants your computer to perform optimally. For this reason, by default, the PF is designed to dynamically adjust itself for optimal performance as needed. So if performance would be increased if the PF was disabled, wouldn't it make sense for Microsoft to disable it? Yet they don't.

As noted above, the developers at MS are not stupid.

this is just what I do after I install windows and I haven't had any issues in years.

This is another common (so not singling you out) excuse and misconception I see way too often that really makes no sense at all.

Again, the MS developers are not stupid. And they have not been sitting on their thumbs for the last 20 years. Windows 10 today is not even the same Windows 10 it was 6 years ago when it first came out. W10 is not XP. It is time to stop treating it like it is.

"I didn't see any difference" is the absolute best reason to leave the defaults alone! Not change them.

 

[Hachi_Roku256563]

It is important to understand it is the user's responsibility to ensure the operating system has enough free disk space to operate in. So I find it amusing, sad and ironic when Windows is accused of "garbage memory management" when it is the user who has failed to properly manage the computer resources.

but their is PLENTY of ram
i can understand windows using swap IF ram is full
but when their is 10 gigs free and its running out of SWAP
THEN their is a problem

I think you have another problem going on I can run Forza 7 at max settings with 24 cars on the full Nürburgring and I'm only using about 10gb of ram for the entire system.
Something else that is running has a memory leak the discord overlay has this problem in a few games, you need to use process of elimination to figure out what is causing the problem.
Start with disabling any overclocking then start closing out programs until all your running is windows and the game
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no the problem is not i am running out of ram
i can manage the same thing
the problem is forza uses a but ton of SWAP instead of the ram thats available
anyway i flung it on a hd so the problems gone
i DEF knew that swap did not have to be on the boot disk

It sounds like your blaming Windows for having insufficient storage on the PC.

Get a bigger SSD/HDD, let Windows manage the swap file automatically and watch these problems disappear.

It would help us to help you if you filled out your system specs.

I have
i am blaming windows for using swap BEFORE ram
it should not crash becasue its run out of swap when rams full

 

[newtekie1]

but their is PLENTY of ram
i can understand windows using swap IF ram is full
but when their is 10 gigs free and its running out of SWAP
THEN their is a problem

And it isn't Windows using the swap, it's the game. Don't blame Windows.

 

[Mussels]

And it isn't Windows using the swap, it's the game. Don't blame Windows.

^ This. the program is coded to do this behavior, and it needs free space to work.

 

[freeagent]

If you are not a pro, then you don't know if one is beneficial, or not. That' why claiming "I haven't had any issues in years", or as I said above, because "it didn't break Windows", makes no sense.

In fact, it is backwards thinking.

Not "seeing" benefits is not the same as not seeing issues or not breaking Windows.

I can think of no other feature in any other product in any industry in the entire universe where the users justify disabling it by using the excuse, "nothing broke when I disable it" so I must be right. But for some unknown reason, some think that is totally justifiable with Microsoft Windows.

The Page File is there to help improve performance. Having it enabled does NOT degrade performance or in any other way have detrimental effects - as long as the user ensures there is sufficient free disk space for the OS to operate freely within.

So how does "because it didn't break" make sense to disable it or dink with the default settings?

Microsoft wants your computer to perform optimally. For this reason, by default, the PF is designed to dynamically adjust itself for optimal performance as needed. So if performance would be increased if the PF was disabled, wouldn't it make sense for Microsoft to disable it? Yet they don't.

As noted above, the developers at MS are not stupid.



This is another common (so not singling you out) excuse and misconception I see way too often that really makes no sense at all.

Again, the MS developers are not stupid. And they have not been sitting on their thumbs for the last 20 years. Windows 10 today is not even the same Windows 10 it was 6 years ago when it first came out. W10 is not XP. It is time to stop treating it like it is.

"I didn't see any difference" is the absolute best reason to leave the defaults alone! Not change them.

Do you overclock? I'm guessing you probably don't. When you crash you get a rather large dump file, usually about 500mb or so. No page file, also no dump file. By doing it for years, I meant that since using a 64GB SSD I have been doing that, just to avoid large writes like that, repeatedly.

I am flattered you took the time to rip me and my post apart. I truly do hope you feel better.

 

[Hachi_Roku256563]

^ This. the program is coded to do this behavior, and it needs free space to work.

i mean it has free space on the disk its running off
why cant it use that
also idk why this thread is still going i fixed it i moved swap to a hd

 

[Mussels]

i mean it has free space on the disk its running off
why cant it use that
also idk why this thread is still going i fixed it i moved swap to a hd

ask the developers of the game, they've hardcoded it behave that way

 

[qubit]

I have
i am blaming windows for using swap BEFORE ram
it should not crash becasue its run out of swap when rams full

You have what?

It's the game that's not using memory efficiently not Windows, as several people have explained to you now. Why don't you listen? You're also running out of disc space, so you need to get a bigger SSD / HDD / partition as I explained to you. It's as simple as that.

Windows is doing nothing wrong.

This thread should be closed imo as you're wasting everybody's time and the thread is now descending into unpleasantness.

 

[Solaris17]

This thread should be closed imo as you're wasting everybody's time and the thread is now descending into unpleasantness.

Agreed.