How do you view TPU & the internet in general? (With poll)

[Bill_Bright]

I agree, but that severely limits the options for form factor.

Exactly - as it should!!!!

Having a standard form factor greatly expands our options - not limit them.

Look at ATX for desktop/tower computers. We have EATX, ATX and µMicro ATX standard size motherboards. ANY, and I mean ANY case that supports EATX also supports ATX and µATX motherboards. Why? Because the standard dictates where the expansion slots will go, where the rear panel I/O panel will go and where the mounting holes will (or can) go.

That's a very good thing. It allows us consumers to install any µATX motherboard, for example, or any ATX motherboard in any ATX compliant mid or full tower case and be certain the expansion slots, rear I/O panel connectors, and motherboard mounting point will align up perfectly.

With the ATX standard, we can install an ASUS Intel motherboard, Gigabyte graphics card, and Seasonic power supply in our CoolerMaster case, then tomorrow, move them all to our Fractal design case, then the next day swap them out for an MSI AMD motherboard, MSI graphics card, EVGA power supply, and know they will still work.

Try swapping a Lenovo laptop motherboard into an Acer laptop.

 

[sudothelinuxwizard]

Exactly - as it should!!!!

Having a standard form factor greatly expands our options - not limit them.

Look at ATX for desktop/tower computers. We have EATX, ATX and µMicro ATX standard size motherboards. ANY, and I mean ANY case that supports EATX also supports ATX and µATX motherboards. Why? Because the standard dictates where the expansion slots will go, where the rear panel I/O panel will go and where the mounting holes will (or can) go.

That's a very good thing. It allows us consumers to install any µATX motherboard, for example, or any ATX motherboard in any ATX compliant mid or full tower case and be certain the expansion slots, rear I/O panel connectors, and motherboard mounting point will align up perfectly.

With the ATX standard, we can install an ASUS Intel motherboard, Gigabyte graphics card, and Seasonic power supply in our CoolerMaster case, then tomorrow, move them all to our Fractal design case, then the next day swap them out for an MSI AMD motherboard, MSI graphics card, EVGA power supply, and know they will still work.

Try swapping a Lenovo laptop motherboard into an Acer laptop.

That's all very well , but there are lots of devices where that flat out will not work and then manufacturers will resort to proprietary fuckery. Its a lot better to just have easily replaceable cells - or even better, a lot of 18650s in a compartment, so no manufacturer has an excuse to use proprietary.

Also, didn't I make it clear I support standization for other parts?

 

[Bill_Bright]

That's all very well , but there are lots of devices where that flat out will not work and then manufacturers will resort to proprietary fuckery.

Again, exactly my point. I am certain all those manufacturers regret signing on to the ATX Form Factor standard. But they did so they could compete with the OG god of PCs, IBM. Without the AT and then ATX standard, there would be no "IBM clones", no Zeos, no Northgate, no Compaq, no Newegg or just about anyone else currently in the PC parts business.

 

[theFOoL]

I use my phone with the Firefox Browser. I use Firefox on my Desktop. I view on my PC but I reply on my phone due to my Left Side nerves nearly Dead Hence my Hand/Fingers/Arm aren't in working order no matter what I Do/try

 

[sudothelinuxwizard]

Again, exactly my point. I am certain all those manufacturers regret signing on to the ATX Form Factor standard. But they did so they could compete with the OG god of PCs, IBM. Without the AT and then ATX standard, there would be no "IBM clones", no Zeos, no Northgate, no Compaq, no Newegg or just about anyone else currently in the PC parts business.

Well, of course you're right, but 2025 is not like 1995. I can pretty much promise you no proposal like that will ever come to fruition, because all industry special interests are obviously vehemently opposed to it. I'd love to be wrong, but that would take the general populace to have that as a selling point, which I doubt will ever happen at this point considering their IQ and sheep behavior.

 

[DaemonForce]

Had to think about this one a bit. I have some very peculiar forum habits.
At desktop I'm usually reading everything on the "big" 1080p screen.
My portable display is usually hooked up in 1080p mode but text is difficult.
If doing a news piece, I might pull up a TPU page and record from desktop.

I don't like navigating on tablet. Surface 3 is just a Twitch player and maybe RDP.
If I'm anywhere else it's by phone. ALL of this is in landscape mode for reading.
I haven't looked at anything web from my HMD in years but might stream that way.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I agree but suspect not many road warriors, as in people who have to lug their laptops (and chargers and perhaps external drive and extra battery) around everyday, would appreciate the extra weight and size.

True! I know full well I'm in the minority on that point.

Sadly (or is it ironic?), IMO, the user demand for lighter and thinner laptops is one of the biggest forces driving competition among the makers and that, in turn, is THE driving force that results in the laptop industry being such a "proprietary" industry.

Sadly ironic? It really does suck.

As wonderful as this conversation has been, we're getting off-topic. Let's all rope ourselves in shall we?

 

[Bill_Bright]

I can pretty much promise you no proposal like that will ever come to fruition

I already said that in post #69 above.

Sadly ironic? It really does suck.

LOL

It does.

 

[John Naylor]

Well I guess everyone can decide their own definition of "full size" ... because we can always point to something bigger. My desktop KB has 4 separate "pads" and an LCD screen. But until yesterday when a new custom built arrived, I have never had a laptop w/aKB less than 15'wide. The new arrival is just under 14" and I gave up the inch as it's < 5 pounds. We are at point now where 18" laptops have KBs that don't get all that close. I have a 3 year old 17" Dell "corporate" laptop where the KB is larger (15") then the current 18"models where the width of the chassis is only 15.63 ... and there's about an inch on each side.

To my eyes, or should I say "my hands", I like the larger laptops because may hands do not overlap and they key sizes are the same across allof them. We were given a laptop (13 or 14") ... was very hard to type on and Ionly used it to streammusic/ video when Ineeded something for background noixe to sleep.

 

[Lew Zealand]

But until yesterday when a new custom built arrived, I have never had a laptop w/aKB less than 15'wide.

15'! Is this you?