How to disable Windows Defender in Windows 10 1909

[Bill_Bright]

Some of those extra features like anti ransomware are a must in these times imo.

Okay. I agree. But most anti-malware solutions already include ransomware protection - including Windows Defender.

I've seen hacking take place and years ago pinged the british secret service mi6, I googled the ip address I found in my router and it gave me the physical address in the uk, I googled the address and it came back as the MI6 building, did I mention I broke national security at one point lol?

Okay. I don't understand the point but, okay.

 

[oobymach]

Okay. I agree. But most anti-malware solutions already include ransomware protection - including Windows Defender.
Okay. I don't understand the point but, okay.

The point was that a skilled hacker can get through windows defense like it was nothing, and your router basically offers no defense at all even with security features.

 

[moproblems99]

The point was that a skilled hacker can get through windows defense like it was nothing, and your router basically offers no defense at all even with security features.

Sorry but skilled hackers aren't targeting your firewall.

 

[oobymach]

Sorry but skilled hackers aren't targeting your firewall.

The ones employed by my government (CSE) like Americas NSA have access to everything you do electronically anyway, why hack when people go out of their way to tell everyone else what they're doing? People like me who know things I'm not supposed to. Like the uk's satellite recovery program, and the feral human virus. (BTW, that just broke national security again).

 

[c2DDragon]

What a bunch of bullcrap!

Yeah right. Because everybody knows the badguys can't get their hands on ZoneAlarm, Comodo or Avira. How absurd can you get?

I'm done here. This is just shameless, pointless, Microsoft bashing now - not an intelligent debate.

Impossible to have any debate because of your reactions, nothing more.
A basic hacker will not try to code a malware for all existent types of protections when most basic users (the easy targets) don't use them but just the preinstalled one...your reaction is absurd.
It's not bashing, you think it is so, is it ? Ok, intelligent reaction, once again.

 

[moproblems99]

The ones employed by my government (CSE) like Americas NSA have access to everything you do electronically anyway, why hack when people go out of their way to tell everyone else what they're doing? People like me who know things I'm not supposed to. Like the uk's satellite recovery program, and the feral human virus. (BTW, that just broke national security again).

Because skilled hackers are targeting specific individuals of value. The average drive-bys are being conducted by those with significantly less skills. 99.99995% (maybe higher) of tpu users do not fit the interesting category no matter how hard they try.

 

[Bill_Bright]

The point was that a skilled hacker can get through windows defense like it was nothing, and your router basically offers no defense at all even with security features.

What does that have to do with the price of rice in China in the summertime after it rains?

This thread has absolutely nothing to do with our routers. And there is nothing to suggest it is harder to hack a port blocked by ZoneAlarm than it is with Windows Firewall or any other firewall.

The ones employed by my government (CSE) like Americas NSA have access to everything you do electronically anyway, why hack when people go out of their way to tell everyone else what they're doing? People like me who know things I'm not supposed to. Like the uk's satellite recovery program, and the feral human virus. (BTW, that just broke national security again).

Tin Futures.

Impossible to have any debate because of your reactions, nothing more.

Its impossible to have any debate when you are spewing unsubstantiated nonsense! I ask again, where are all these infected systems that got infected because they use Windows Firewall?

 

[c2DDragon]

Its impossible to have any debate when you are spewing unsubstantiated nonsense! I ask again, where are all these infected systems that got infected because they use Windows Firewall?

Never heard of botnets ? Zombie computers ? Ok.

 

[Bill_Bright]

Never heard of botnets ? Zombie computers ? Ok.

Of course I have. And you believe that only computers using Windows Firewall have be compromised for that purpose? Okay. But that's not spewing more unsubstantiated nonsense, right?

 

[moproblems99]

Never heard of botnets ? Zombie computers ? Ok.

In fairness, most of those are likely iot devices.

 

[c2DDragon]

Of course I have. And you believe that only computers using Windows Firewall have be compromised for that purpose? Okay. But that's not spewing more unsubstantiated nonsense, right?

The less protected ones are compromised. You think Windows Firewall is fine ? Ok, good on you.
I think it's not enough. There are better defenses than this firewall. You want to defend it and that I have to make a book about how not enough this firewall is or what ? I don't know why I would lose more time showing what I've already shown about my opinion.
Now stop being so mean and accept people's opinion without being like this please. It sucks and it's just garbage to read.
If it's nonsense to not follow your opinion so be it.

 

[Bill_Bright]

and that I have to make a book about how not enough this firewall is or what ?

Gee whiz. No book. Just show us some evidence. If what you claim is even remotely true, show us (show for yourself) the evidence.

I don't know why I would lose more time showing what I've already shown about my opinion.

It's not about your opinion or my opinion. It is about the facts! It is about what is true and what is not true. You don't like it, that's fine! I have no problem with that. But you claiming people are not safe, or that they are easy targets because they use WF - that's stating a fact, not opinion. You are not entitled to your own set of facts.

 

[matthewmatics]

I gotta laugh at some of this.....I purposely set up machines and delete services and run zero 3rd party software and then abuse the crap out of them on the internet (torrents, porn, bad bad surfing, etc....FOR TESTING!!! LOL) and then I see what happens and usually it is nothing worse than a control alt delete whatever it is or crash the machine and zero happens beyond that. That is literally the worst I see out here in the real world these days. I feel bad for ransomware victims (at least the level I have witnessed) that actually pay! LMAO!

 

[c2DDragon]

Gee whiz. No book. Just show us some evidence. If what you claim is even remotely true, show us (show for yourself) the evidence.
It's not about your opinion or my opinion. It is about the facts! It is about what is true and what is not true. You don't like it, that's fine! I have no problem with that. But you claiming people are not safe, or that they are easy targets because they use WF - that's stating a fact, not opinion. You are not entitled to your own set of facts.

Remember this ? https://support.microsoft.com/en-in...pecific-firewall-ports-to-prevent-smb-traffic
"Malicious users can use the Server Message Block (SMB) protocol for malicious purposes."
"Enterprise perimeter firewalls should block unsolicited communication (from the Internet) and outgoing traffic (to the Internet) to the following SMB-associated ports..."
Why did Microsoft recommand to block ports if this firewall is this safe ?
It's about exploits.
Let everything go out without caring is not safe in my books.

 

[daerragh]

Please explain to me one thing about Windows Firewall. I deleted all rules for utorrent and then launched utorrent. Now I get the WF prompt, like the one below. How can I block access in this prompt? Because when I untick private AND public networks in the prompt, the "Allow" button gets greyed out and the only active button is "Cancel". Why the hell there's no "Block access" button? When I click "Cancel", utorrent happily gets network access (I checked). So I can only block an app manually in the advanced WF settings and NOT with the prompt? This is weird.

 

[Bill_Bright]

Remember this ?

Yep, one article from 3 1/2 years ago for "corporate" networks - even though there are zero reported cases of any exploitation related to this - clearly indicates that every body using Windows Firewall is currently at risk - and switching to a 3rd party firewall will save the day! Never mind the fact the article has NOTHING to do with, and NOT ONCE mentions "Windows Firewall".

More FUD.

@daerragh - probably best to start a new thread for that specific issue.

 

[daerragh]

@daerragh - probably best to start a new thread for that specific issue.

Well, this thread is already one big off-topic about WF and I'm the OP so I ask here.

 

[c2DDragon]

Yep, one article from 3 1/2 years ago for "corporate" networks - even though there are zero reported cases of any exploitation related to this - clearly indicates that every body using Windows Firewall is currently at risk - and switching to a 3rd party firewall will save the day! Never mind the fact the article has NOTHING to do with, and NOT ONCE mentions "Windows Firewall".

More FUD.

Ok buddy.

Please explain to me one thing about Windows Firewall. I deleted all rules for utorrent and then launched utorrent. Now I get the WF prompt, like the one below. How can I block access in this prompt? Because when I untick private AND public networks in the prompt, the "Allow" button gets greyed out and the only active button is "Cancel". Why the hell there's no "Block access" button? When I click "Cancel", utorrent happily gets network access (I checked). So I can only block an app manually in the advanced WF settings and NOT with the prompt? This is weird.

If you untick the 2 then click the exit cross "x" doesn't it suppose to add a block rule ?

 

[daerragh]

If you untick the 2 then click the exit cross "x" doesn't it suppose to add a block rule ?

It adds 2 inbound blocking rules, one for TCP and one for UDP (no outbound rules were created, only inbound) but then I can still download with utorrent - it has network access. Shoudn't it have no network access? How come it is still downloading if inbound access is blocked?

 

[c2DDragon]

I adds 2 inbound blocking rules, one for TCP and one for UDP (no outbound rules were created) but then I can still download with utorrent - it has network access. Shoudn't it have no network access?

By default everything goes OUT with Windows Firewall so this notification is only for inbound connections.

 

[daerragh]

By default everything goes OUT with Windows Firewall so this notification is only for inbound connexions.

I know, but why it's downloading if inbound access is blocked?

 

[c2DDragon]

I know, but why it's downloading if inbound access is blocked?

That's a mystery I'm sorry I cannot help.

 

[moproblems99]

I know, but why it's downloading if inbound access is blocked?

What is downloading?

 

[c2DDragon]

What is downloading?

it's over there now https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/...-windows-firewall-prompt.262800/#post-4185918 and solved, I guess.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Anyone that says Window Firewall is easy to manage is nuts

Let's be fair, it's not easy. But it is much better than it once was.