How to install nvidia driver for rtx3080 on windows 1709?

Wasaki · Mar 27, 2022

Need help anyone know how to install nvidia driver for windows 10 1709 or 1909?
How to stop it from update to 21h2?
Thanks

StefanM · Mar 27, 2022

Remove the version check in INF of the NVIDIA driver:

Code:

[Manufacturer]
%NVIDIA_A% = NVIDIA_Devices,NTamd64.10.0...14393,NTamd64.10.0...17098

[NVIDIA_Devices.NTamd64.10.0...14393]

[NVIDIA_Devices.NTamd64.10.0...17098]

Then in NVCleanstall select any expert tweak to trigger rebuilding signature.

Bear in mind that DirectX12 Ultimate is not available in old Windows 10 versions.

Wasaki · Mar 27, 2022

StefanM said:
Remove the version check in INF of the NVIDIA driver:

Code:

[Manufacturer] %NVIDIA_A% = NVIDIA_Devices,NTamd64.10.0...14393,NTamd64.10.0...17098 [NVIDIA_Devices.NTamd64.10.0...14393] [NVIDIA_Devices.NTamd64.10.0...17098]

Then in NVCleanstall select any expert tweak to trigger rebuilding signature.

Bear in mind that DirectX12 Ultimate is not available in old Windows 10 versions.

Thanks but old driver couldn't be installed .
Yeah directx12 is not necessary for most games.

I did try to modify INF but windows immediately delete Nvidia folder after failed to install. K solved unzip then modified

GerKNG · Mar 27, 2022

what's the point in doing some sketchy stuff to get something maybe functional instead of just using an updated version of windows that is made for it in the first place?

Robert B · Mar 27, 2022

Forget 10, go 11!

ThrashZone · Mar 27, 2022

Hi,
Is there any special reason to avoid 21h2 ?

NVclean is still a good idea even on 21h2 seeing it avoids using the ms store to get the newer 5k drivers from it does it for you.

Wasaki · Mar 28, 2022

Could not pass this error:"This nvidia driver graphics is not compatible with this version of windows".

W1zzard · Mar 28, 2022

Wasaki said:
Could not pass this error:"This nvidia driver graphics is not compatible with this version of windows".

Did you do what @StefanM suggested? Changed the right INF file? The rebuild signature with NVCleanstall is also important

Wasaki · Mar 28, 2022

W1zzard said:
Did you do what @StefanM suggested? Changed the right INF file? The rebuild signature with NVCleanstall is also important

Any driver can be installed?
I'm not sure if i did rebuild signature right way.

StefanM · Mar 28, 2022

First driver series to support RTX 3080 is R455

Did you edit the generic NV_DISP.INF?

Probably your GPU's manufacturer has an extra INF with SUBSYS_IDs which would have priority.

Guess the acronym eg NVGBD.INF = Gigabyte, NVMD.INF =MSI etc.

hans_glans · Jul 3, 2022

Is this confirmed to work by now?

anson_walker · Jul 5, 2022

StefanM said:
Remove the version check in INF of the NVIDIA driver:

Code:

[Manufacturer] %NVIDIA_A% = NVIDIA_Devices,NTamd64.10.0...14393,NTamd64.10.0...17098 [NVIDIA_Devices.NTamd64.10.0...14393] [NVIDIA_Devices.NTamd64.10.0...17098]

Then in NVCleanstall select any expert tweak to trigger rebuilding signature.

Bear in mind that DirectX12 Ultimate is not available in old Windows 10 versions.

Do you have more detailed instructions? I’m so confused because I’m new to these modifying stuff.

StefanM · Jul 5, 2022

anson_walker said:
Do you have more detailed instructions? I’m so confused because I’m new to these modifying stuff.

Use the find option in your text editor to find the aforementioned lines.
Then delete the 3 dots in a row and the 5-digit build number.

Code:

[Manufacturer]
%NVIDIA_A% = NVIDIA_Devices,NTamd64.10.0,NTamd64.10.0

[NVIDIA_Devices.NTamd64.10.0]

[NVIDIA_Devices.NTamd64.10.0]

anson_walker · Jul 5, 2022

StefanM said:
Use the find option in your text editor to find the aforementioned lines.
Then delete the 3 dots in a row and the 5-digit build number.

Code:

[Manufacturer] %NVIDIA_A% = NVIDIA_Devices,NTamd64.10.0,NTamd64.10.0 [NVIDIA_Devices.NTamd64.10.0] [NVIDIA_Devices.NTamd64.10.0]

Should I modify nv_dispi.inf or nvmii.inf or both? I’m on MSI laptop.

StefanM · Jul 5, 2022

anson_walker said:
Should I modify nv_dispi.inf or nvmii.inf or both? I’m on MSI laptop.

Only nvmii.inf in your case

anson_walker · Jul 5, 2022

StefanM said:
Only nvmii.inf in your case

And how do I rebuild signature? I’m very confused with NVCleanstall. Should I build the driver in nvcleanstall, modify it in %temp%, and then rebuild signature? Or do I have to make a copy of the driver files and modifying it somewhere else?

hans_glans · Jul 5, 2022

anson_walker said:
And how do I rebuild signature? I’m very confused with NVCleanstall. Should I build the driver in nvcleanstall, modify it in %temp%, and then rebuild signature? Or do I have to make a copy of the driver files and modifying it somewhere else?

W1zzard said:
...

The easiest approach is to use NVCleanstall to unpack the driver, when the Tweaks page is visible, go to NVCleanstall work directory and edit the inf file (don't close NVCleanstall). Once you've made your changes, pick the remove telemetry option under expert tweaks, which will rebuild the digital signature on everything, so you can install it.

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@StefanM Have you done this on ampere and 1709 and can confirm it working?
Are those definitely all lines to be adjusted?
How to know which inf to edit?

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So, are these the concrete instructions?

Use NVCleanstall to unpack the driver
When the Tweaks page is visible, go to %LocalAppData%\Temp\NVCleanstall\Display.Driver and edit the correct inf file by choosing the correct the acronym eg NVGBD.INF = Gigabyte, NVMD.INF =MSI etc. (don't close NVCleanstall)
Change
[Manufacturer]
%NVIDIA_A% = NVIDIA_Devices,NTamd64.10.0...14393,NTamd64.10.0...17098

[NVIDIA_Devices.NTamd64.10.0...14393]

[NVIDIA_Devices.NTamd64.10.0...17098]
to
[Manufacturer]
%NVIDIA_A% = NVIDIA_Devices,NTamd64.10.0,NTamd64.10.0

[NVIDIA_Devices.NTamd64.10.0]

[NVIDIA_Devices.NTamd64.10.0]
Pick the remove telemetry option under expert tweaks (or any expert tweak), which will rebuild the digital signature
Install the driver

StefanM · Jul 6, 2022

hans_glans said:
Have you done this on ampere and 1709 and can confirm it working?
Are those definitely all lines to be adjusted?
How to know which inf to edit?

So, are these the concrete instructions?

1) no
2) yes
3) look up your manufacturer ID in GPU-Z and find it inside the INFs or as aforementioned guess the acronym eg NVGBD.INF = Gigabyte, NVMD.INF =MSI etc.
4) yes

hans_glans · Jul 6, 2022

StefanM said:
3) look up your manufacturer ID in GPU-Z and find it inside the INFs or as aforementioned guess the acronym eg NVGBD.INF = Gigabyte, NVMD.INF =MSI etc.

I cannot find the manufacturer ID in GPU-Z.

Without it, its difficult to determine the correct one:

W1zzard · Jul 6, 2022

hans_glans said:
I cannot find the manufacturer ID in GPU-Z.

10de (the second 10de, the one in field 3)

P4-630 · Jul 6, 2022

Wasaki said:
Need help anyone know how to install nvidia driver for windows 10 1709 or 1909?

What would be the reason to not update windows 10 to the latest version.... :confused:

Then there wouldn't be any driver hassle!

StefanM · Jul 6, 2022

hans_glans said:
I cannot find the manufacturer ID in GPU-Z.

W1zzard said:
10de (the second 10de, the one in field 3)

Then use generic desktop INF

In this particular driver 516.59 it is named nv_dispig.inf
Usually it is or was NV_DISP.INF

hans_glans · Jul 6, 2022

And delete all others so one is not priorizited?

How would 10de correspond to the correct inf file name?

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@W1zzard Could "Add hardware support" help in this regard, too by the way?

StefanM · Jul 6, 2022

hans_glans said:
And delete all others so one is not priorizited?

You can delete the other INFs
Rebuilding the signature creates a new catalog file (nv_dispig.CAT)

hans_glans · Jul 6, 2022

Are there any INFs in the folder that are unrelated and should not be deleted?

But, seriously - how does this differ from the "Add hardware support" expert tweak?

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