How to quickly & easily fix coil-whine(coil choke noise)

[Wolverine2349]

No, just on the side of the housing. You won't hurt anything gluing on top of those metal contacts, but it isn't needed.

So I can just go around that metal thing. And what is that metal thing linking the choke to the PCB anyways?

 

[lexluthermiester]

So I can just go around that metal thing. And what is that metal thing linking the choke to the PCB anyways?

That's the power line for input power.

 

[Wolverine2349]

I just got another Gigabyte Gaming OC 4090. Same type of whine/buzz. Before I try super glue, I thought about checking power supply again even thoughbI did so in the past and itv appeared to make no difference.

I do notice a buzzing sound from THE PSU if I put my ear close to it only when system is powered on regardless of load on components. Only when ear close to it. I tested without card under load and same buzz from PSU. Also removed 4090 video card and same buzz from PSU using integrated video.

Tried direct wall connect instead of TO UPS and no difference even multiple outlets on different circuits in the house.

Not sure do all PSUs have a slight buzz when on if ear an inch from it or us it faulty and could be causing RTX 4090 buzzing. It's an eVGA SuperNOVA T2 1600 which is supposed to be like top of the line.

Anyways the 4090 buzz when under load is a lot louder and is coming from the card. What us the likelihood my PSUBus causing GPU ro coil whine?

 

[lexluthermiester]

I just got another Gigabyte Gaming OC 4090. Same type of whine/buzz.

Good grief! How much money do you have?

Anyways the 4090 buzz when under load is a lot louder and is coming from the card. What us the likelihood my PSUBus causing GPU ro coil whine?

PSU quality can be a factor in the generation of coil noise. Do you have a good quality PSU?

 

[athenaesword]

Good grief! How much money do you have?


PSU quality can be a factor in the generation of coil noise. Do you have a good quality PSU?

Buy enuf lottery tickets and he’ll win! It’s just so painful to do if you watercool tho

 

[Wolverine2349]

Good grief! How much money do you have?


PSU quality can be a factor in the generation of coil noise. Do you have a good quality PSU?

I by no means am rich but have 0 debt including paid for house.

Plus I drive my car for over 10 years and never use a loan for anything in my entire life. My house was paid for in cash almost 10 years ago when I bought it and then moved in in May 2013 at 29 years old. I was lucky to have parents that let me stay with them so I could save for a house plus I inherited only from my grand mother's housre when she passed as she wanted for me and my only other sibling when it was sold. I got a new car 6 months ago after having my prior car for 13.5 years and I of course paid cash for it so no evil car payments. I intend to keep this one that long as well or maybe even longer if I can.

I am actually somewhat frugal on most things except when it comes to computer parts lol.

 

[Wolverine2349]

When someone talks so casually about buying a 2nd penis enlargement (4090) - his question/dilemma does make sense. Since 99.9% wouldn't afford such purchase (even if they have the money - 2.000$ is not exactly a fortune - but buying a 2nd 4090 makes most people question their principles or sanity). Point being... this cards are a more or less of a scam ( "Jen-Hsun Huang: the more you buy, the more you save...") - imbued by a lack of moral principles and outrages level of greed ( "Jen-Hsun Huang: Work with me here...the more you buy, the more you save..." ) - Balenciaga style - courtesy of nVidia's CEO Jen-Hsun Huang...

NVIDIA GTC 2018: "The more you buy, the more you save"

...

I so badly want a whine free 4090 setup and have been desperately trying to obtain one for over 3 months now. Once I have it I am calling it a day and do not want to build or modify my PC again for at least 2 years or maybe more. And already 3 months wasted and time towards the next great things coming out. I am so disappointed. I wanted my system to be latest and greatest on stable mature tech (Which Raptor Lake is being much higher clocked Alder Lake) with latest NVIDIA cards and game in 4K and set and forget for a long while. Now 3.5 months burned into that.

And I only do that for computer parts. I save money and do not spend like this on other things. Computer parts even expensive ones costs only a tiny fraction of things like cars let alone land or homes or other real estate. And I keep my cars for 10-15 years buy a new one cash and keep for 10-15 years rinse and repeat for my life.

 

[athenaesword]

When someone talks so casually about buying a 2nd penis enlargement (4090) - his question/dilemma does make sense. Since 99.9% wouldn't afford such purchase (even if they have the money - 2.000$ is not exactly a fortune - but buying a 2nd 4090 makes most people question their principles or sanity). Point being... this cards are a more or less of a scam ( "Jen-Hsun Huang: the more you buy, the more you save...") - imbued by a lack of moral principles and outrages level of greed ( "Jen-Hsun Huang: Work with me here...the more you buy, the more you save..." ) - Balenciaga style - courtesy of nVidia's CEO Jen-Hsun Huang...

NVIDIA GTC 2018: "The more you buy, the more you save"

...

i dunno about that tbh.. everything costs money these days and wealth is extremely subjective, especially when it's a premium product discussed in the first place. i think the larger problem with buying a second card/multiple cards is that there's no guarantee. it might end up in more frustrations after multiple cards and realizing that you've spent all this money and never reached your goal. but if a vendor sells a quiet card (after waterblock installation since that changes the noise) i'd gladly be a sucker for 500 extra if it's guaranteed. not even kidding there. coil whine is brain damage.

 

[Wolverine2349]

No, it's not. Even if money don't have the same value everywhere - there's still empirical data which can be easily measured. There's still a minimum wage, an average wage and above average wage. There's still a lower class, middle class and upper class of citizens. Just because someone with 10 million $/year can complain about financial lackings - same as someone with 12.000$/year - doesn't mean you can put them in same class and call their earnings subjective.

But that's beyond my point from previous post - which is also easily measurable through empirical data, as in: the prices of video cards - their evolution to be more exact - be it premium products or otherwise. That, even while taking inflation into account - or the Covid lock-down - where they admittedly increased the prices to outrageous points - while blaming it on the chips shortage. All things consider (the way things went back then) - people (PC hardware enthusiasts - if you will) - turned a blind eye - while having the logical expectation for those prices to be just a temporary thing - influenced by those global issues and... waiting for things to normalize. Well, things did normalize... we're even at point where there's to many GPUs on the market. Not to mention - the technological advancements "lowered the productions costs". And yet... the GPUs prices are still increasing (instead of normalizing). Which at this point is clear - that it's pure greed related. A fact backed up by empirical data. There's nothing subjective about it (it's not a matter of feelings but facts).

Your way of thinking is actually a problematic (dangerous - if you will) - especially if you voice such thoughts in the presence of the greedy ones (i'd gladly be a sucker for 500 extra if it's guaranteed). You being 1 in 1.000.000 with that way of thinking - yet nVidia would gladly follow up on that - and screw up the other 999.999 - while making it sound as if they're pleasing the masses by increasing the prices with another 500$ of card tested for coil-whine. Thus, every 4090 at 2000$ will have coil-whine and only the ones with 2500$ would be coil-while free.

If you're truly whiling to spend more - just to have a coil-while free new card - you can do/manage that even today - for less than 500$. Just bribe a sales person - from a big store (where they have many in stock even a bench to test them) - to test and sell you one coil-whine free - for a bonus of 200$ (going in his pocket). Where i live - there's actually a store that can do that officially for 27.77$. Money talks - as some would put it.


Buying multiple cards is not that different than buying a lottery ticket. If there's no store that can sell you a tested card - just go to the biggest you can fine a bribe a sales person - even an extra 100 $ (or 50 $) might suffice.

Like how?? I have asked and no one is willing to sell me one for the few that claim they have them locally on Facebook Groups. And very few like only 2 responded saying they had one but bragged and were not selling them.

And stores do not sell prebinned cards regarding little to no coil whine. MicroCenter just says return it if you do not like it. Well I have done that already. And have not had much luck. And they are expensive items and if I do it too many times at one store, eventually it will ban me from returns. I know someone who shops at MC who had like $10000 to $12000 in returned in 5 months and they were flagged.

And unless I can be at the store to verify the card has no whine when it is pretested, what good is it as many perceive whine differently. And I asked MC which is only store that sells these cards locally and of course they state they cnanot open and test anything before sell. They say return it if you are not happy is their answer. Not sure how I could bribe a sales person there when I already asked.

So I used 2 different aliases to return cards and did not exceed $3800 on either or maybe one of them. But do not want to chance it further getting too close to $10K

I have used other stores online. Some charge a restocking fee. But I did that a couple of times as really not much different than selling 2nd hand if it does not work out at least financially, but no hassle of selling yourself, but you still take the loss.

Next step is a different power supply. I have tried different PSUs before, but on a different mobo. I switched up mobo that was an MSI Z690 Unify X. Now I switched up to an Asus Z790-A Strix. I had a Corsair HX1200 and had also tried MSI A1000G and Asus ROG Thor II Platinum 1000 on the MSI. Did not make a difference. Now on the Asus Z790-A Strix, I only have used an eVGA SuperNOVA T2 1600 as I bought that thinking it was so good based on an Aris review (yes I know from 8.5 years ago in 2014), so thinking I was good there. But you never know. Maybe the fact that eVGA lost contract with Super Flower sometime in 2019 means these have been sitting in warehouses for years unopened and degraded?? Or maybe tech is outdated. So my local MC has an Asus Thor Platinum II 1000. Maybe Asus PSU with Asus mobo will be a charm so going to try it next. And some reviews mentioned that PSU fixed coil whine on 4090s and RX 7900 XTX when they before had guess what eVGA PSUs. Though they were like 850 and 1000 GT eVGA PSUs which I do not think are SuperFlower rebranded but rather Fortran or HEC or some other crappy brand but still who knows.

 

[Wolverine2349]

Well tried new PSU and really no difference.

One thing I did notice is that on both PSUs, it feels as if the buzz sound is also coming from the PSU. It is like it is echoing or the GPU is making the PSU buzz as well

Happens on both Asus ROG Thor Platinum II 1000 and eVGA SuperNOVA T2 1600.

Why would that happen and could it be 2 faulty PSUs.

Or do coil whine GPUs make good PSUs emit the same whine noise?

That RTX 4090 whine/electrical buzz noise is not heard from either PSU when GPU is idle. I can tell as I am testing with both PSUs outside my case to try and fix this issue.

Well tried new PSU and really no difference.

One thing I did notice is that on both PSUs, it feels as if the buzz sound is also coming from the PSU. It is like it is echoing or the GPU is making the PSU buzz as well

Happens on both Asus ROG Thor Platinum II 1000 and eVGA SuperNOVA T2 1600.

Why would that happen and could it be 2 faulty PSUs.

Or do coil whine GPUs make good PSUs emit the same whine noise?

That RTX 4090 whine/electrical buzz noise is not heard from either PSU when GPU is idle. I can tell as I am testing with both PSUs outside my case to try and fix this issue.

 

[Wolverine2349]

Update from my end.



Just went to someone's house who says they have no whine on GAMING OC.



I confirmed they are correct ad I could not hear anything and was very little if anythingm



I tested my system same resolution and game and same whine. We tested my card in their system and a little whine but not as bad.



Then tested their card in my system and whine like as bad as my own card.



So something with my system, and worse card. Confirms maybe need to change mobo again. My PSU is 2 month eVGA SuperNOVA T2 1600 and they have 5 year old eVGA 1000 G3. Both Super Flower based Leadex platforms. We did not swap power supplies as that would have been too much trouble.



But it is puzzling what is going on and why the whine on my cards. And yes I have already tried another PSU.

 

[athenaesword]

Update from my end.



Just went to someone's house who says they have no whine on GAMING OC.



I confirmed they are correct ad I could not hear anything and was very little if anythingm



I tested my system same resolution and game and same whine. We tested my card in their system and a little whine but not as bad.



Then tested their card in my system and whine like as bad as my own card.



So something with my system, and worse card. Confirms maybe need to change mobo again. My PSU is 2 month eVGA SuperNOVA T2 1600 and they have 5 year old eVGA 1000 G3. Both Super Flower based Leadex platforms. We did not swap power supplies as that would have been too much trouble.



But it is puzzling what is going on and why the whine on my cards. And yes I have already tried anothet PSU.

That’s very useful info.

 

[Wolverine2349]

That’s very useful info.

And here is some more:

Their system specs:

*Ryzen 9 5950X

*Asus X570 Dark Hero motherboard

*32GB DDR4 RAM - Not sure the speed

*eVGA SuperNOVA G2 1000 Watt PSU that is 5-6 years old

Their card very quiet on their system running Timespy or Red Dead Redemption 2 - And no I do not think their CPU is any bottleneck as we ran in 4K on 4K 144Hz monitor and GPU usage was 95% or higher almost all the time and wattage was 350 to 450 and GPU clock speed similar and their card almost silent on their system


Here is the theme. Asus high-end motherboards and a good RTX 4090 card. Dark Hero is one of the highest end AM4 X570 motherboards. I also havfe read good reports from other users of high end Asus boards (Hero for 12th and 13th Gen and Apex mostly) even with MSI Suprim X and also Aorus Master and Gaming OC with no whine though subjective without me being there to hear for myself .

Problem is DDR5 XMP at 6000 or higher been a nightmare for Intel 13th gen on Asus mobos for me with regards to poor stability and WHEAs randomly

 

[lexluthermiester]

Update from my end.



Just went to someone's house who says they have no whine on GAMING OC.



I confirmed they are correct ad I could not hear anything and was very little if anythingm



I tested my system same resolution and game and same whine. We tested my card in their system and a little whine but not as bad.



Then tested their card in my system and whine like as bad as my own card.



So something with my system, and worse card. Confirms maybe need to change mobo again. My PSU is 2 month eVGA SuperNOVA T2 1600 and they have 5 year old eVGA 1000 G3. Both Super Flower based Leadex platforms. We did not swap power supplies as that would have been too much trouble.



But it is puzzling what is going on and why the whine on my cards. And yes I have already tried another PSU.

This points to your PSU and you'll likely have a choke coil making noise.

 

[Wolverine2349]

This points to your PSU and you'll likely have a choke coil making noise.

I tried an Asus ROG THOR Platinum II 1000 and 0 difference. What else could it be?

The PSU being the Asus ROG Thor Platinum II was actually more whiney than my current eVGA SUPERNOVA T2 1600 when ear next to each.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I tried an Asus ROG THOR Platinum II 1000 and 0 difference. What else could it be?

The PSU being the Asus ROG Thor Platinum II was actually more whiney than my current eVGA SUPERNOVA T2 1600 when ear next to each.

This is a hands on process at this point. You'll need to narrow down where the noise is coming from and determine what part is the culprit.

 

[athenaesword]

I th

And here is some more:

Their system specs:

*Ryzen 9 5950X

*Asus X570 Dark Hero motherboard

*32GB DDR4 RAM - Not sure the speed

*eVGA SuperNOVA G2 1000 Watt PSU that is 5-6 years old

Their card very quiet on their system running Timespy or Red Dead Redemption 2 - And no I do not think their CPU is any bottleneck as we ran in 4K on 4K 144Hz monitor and GPU usage was 95% or higher almost all the time and wattage was 350 to 450 and GPU clock speed similar and their card almost silent on their system


Here is the theme. Asus high-end motherboards and a good RTX 4090 card. Dark Hero is one of the highest end AM4 X570 motherboards. I also havfe read good reports from other users of high end Asus boards (Hero for 12th and 13th Gen and Apex mostly) even with MSI Suprim X and also Aorus Master and Gaming OC with no whine though subjective without me being there to hear for myself .

Problem is DDR5 XMP at 6000 or higher been a nightmare for Intel 13th gen on Asus mobos for me with regards to poor stability and WHEAs randomly

I thought u concluded it was the motherboard

 

[Wolverine2349]

I th

I thought u concluded it was the motherboard

No I never did. I wonder if it might be. Motherboard lottery regarding GPU coil whine???

 

[Norton]

No I never did. I wonder if it might be. Motherboard lottery regarding GPU coil whine???

Sounds like your noise issue is/has moved from a gpu coil whine problem to a system specific issue with your particular setup.

Would recommend you start a new thread identifying your setup, the issue(s) you are having, and things you have tried thus far.

This forum section:

General Hardware

Hardware discussion not covered by any other forum.

www.techpowerup.com

 

[athenaesword]

i did a small test of my own. i have a spare ax1000 which i connected to the gpu from outside the case vs my corsair 1600i inside the case powering the whole computer+gpu.
ax1000 slightly less aggressive coil whine but definitely still there. but the difference is noticeable, although the ax1000 is still unacceptably loud.. also my connection via the ax1000 was with the nvidia adaptor + 4x pcie cables where as the ax1600i was with the corsair double cable.

No I never did. I wonder if it might be. Motherboard lotter

No I never did. I wonder if it might be. Motherboard lottery regarding GPU coil whine???

y regarding GPU coil whine???

are you still doing the glue mod?

 

[Wolverine2349]

i did a small test of my own. i have a spare ax1000 which i connected to the gpu from outside the case vs my corsair 1600i inside the case powering the whole computer+gpu.
ax1000 slightly less aggressive coil whine but definitely still there. but the difference is noticeable, although the ax1000 is still unacceptably loud.. also my connection via the ax1000 was with the nvidia adaptor + 4x pcie cables where as the ax1600i was with the corsair double cable.


are you still doing the glue mod?

No I give up on that now and do not want that hassle. After seeing first hand going to someone's house after they came to my house with their card with no ort only slight at best audible whine in their system, I see it is possible to get a card under max performance with no audible whine unless your head is close to the card with side panel off.

So trying hard that route since I now see it is definitely possible and super glue on 2 PNY cards did nothing at all though to be fair one of them I used Loctite on which later found out not recommended and also do not want hassle of selling anymore cards that were glued if the glue did not help the whine go away.

Maybe I will give the SUper glue another try only if no other method of component switching works and if there ic concrete proof from more members on certain cards with specific glue types that it actually silences annoying modest electrical buzz, not just helps the beyond screaming that can be heard on other side of wall in other room. My goodness how far have standards been lowered when whine/electrical buzz have been considered acceptable or not so bad because it can only be heard within 5 feet of the case and is mostly drowned out by sound when it still sounds like an annoying modest bees nest chainsaw noise that is obviously not near as loud as a real chainsaw that close, but none the less unacceptable!!

 

[lexluthermiester]

No I give up on that now and do not want that hassle. After seeing first hand going to someone's house after they came to my house with their card with no ort only slight at best audible whine in their system, I see it is possible to get a card under max performance with no audible whine unless your head is close to the card with side panel off.

You might have an electricity issue. Have you tried plugging your whole system into a UPS to filter your power through?

So trying hard that route since I now see it is definitely possible and super glue on 2 PNY cards did nothing at all though to be fair one of them I used Loctite on which later found out not recommended and also do not want hassle of selling anymore cards that were glued if the glue did not help the whine go away.

GPU's are not the only parts with choke coils. Motherboards and PSU's have then as well.

Maybe I will give the SUper glue another try only if no other method of component switching works and if there ic concrete proof from more members on certain cards with specific glue types that it actually silences annoying modest electrical buzz, not just helps the beyond screaming that can be heard on other side of wall in other room. My goodness how far have standards been lowered when whine/electrical buzz have been considered acceptable or not so bad because it can only be heard within 5 feet of the case and is mostly drowned out by sound when it still sounds like an annoying modest bees nest chainsaw noise that is obviously not near as loud as a real chainsaw that close, but none the less unacceptable!!

The superglue method works. Your lack of success is due to not finding the part creating the noise and treating it. And as @Norton mentioned, it's time for you to create your own troubleshooting thread.

 

[Lemonade]

Hello all, I've tried the super glue method and unfortunately it was unsuccessful. I was overly generous with the amount but I think the super glue brand I used (Moment super glue universal) was a little too liquidy to be able to form a seal under and around the chokes.

Gpu: RX 6700XT Pulse
PSU: Straight Power 11 650W Gold

Tried using a cheapo 700W psu but no difference.
Will also try a Seasonic gx 850 gold tomorrow.
If that doesn't solve the coil whine either I'll just drown the inductor casings in sillicone. At this point I don't care if I break it, I just want to silence the whine :^)

 

[lexluthermiester]

View attachment 287649View attachment 287650
Hello all, I've tried the super glue method and unfortunately it was unsuccessful. I was overly generous with the amount but I think the super glue brand I used (Moment super glue universal) was a little too liquidy to be able to form a seal under and around the chokes.

Gpu: RX 6700XT Pulse
PSU: Straight Power 11 650W Gold

Tried using a cheapo 700W psu but no difference.
Will also try a Seasonic gx 850 gold tomorrow.
If that doesn't solve the coil whine either I'll just drown the inductor casings in sillicone. At this point I don't care if I break it, I just want to silence the whine :^)

To me it looks like you did a good job. That glue looks like it was fine. Have you checked other parts of your PC, mobo and PSU for example? Anything with a choke coil can potentially make noise. A neat trick for finding choke noise is an empty tube from a roll of paper towels or even TP. Put it next to your ear and move around in your case until you find the sound most strongly. That'll be your noisy part.

 

[athenaesword]

To me it looks like you did a good job. That glue looks like it was fine. Have you checked other parts of your PC, mobo and PSU for example? Anything with the choke coil can potentially make noise. A neat trick for finding choke noise it an empty tube from a roll of paper towels or even TP. Put it next to your ear and move arround in your case until you find the sound most strongly. That'll be your noisy part.

Interesting.gonna try this! I I even bot a sound meter but didn’t think of how to isolate the source