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How to unlock the extra pipelines on X850 Pro AGP?

JC316

JC316

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Hi, I am new to both the forums and ATI video cards. I have read the numerous threads on how to unlock the extra pipelines, but nothing seems to work for me. I have tried updating to the X850 XT BIOS using the detailed instruction and the modified Flashrom. I have also tried another X850 Bios that I found in a thread here, but I still only have 12 pipelines. According to my omega drivers, my core is the R481 and yes, it is a VIVO card. Am I just misssing something here, or is my card not unlockable? Thanks in advance for any replies.

AMD Athlon XP 3000+ Barton Core

1GB PC2100 DDR Ram

Windows XP home SP1

ATI Radeon X850 PRO AGP VIVO 256MB

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I forgot to tell you that I am using the omega "system information" to check the pipelines. I am also not showing any improvment in benchmarks.
 
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Download AtiTool, run it, hold down shift key, click settings, release shift. Post here all lines including word fuse. Then I can tell you if you are able to unlock pipes.
 
Ok here ya go. From what I read about other cards, I am stuck with 12 pipelines. My stock Core and mem is 500MHZ.

CAT version 5.5+
Device 4B4B
Chip type R481
Memory Size 256MB
Memory Bus Width 256 bit
Active pipelines 12
Config_DIE_FUSES 0XFFFF7FFF
Config_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFF9E
Config_ROM_FUSES 0X861
GB_PIPE_SELECT 0x227A4
 
^^ you are correct sir
 
Ah well, it dosen't matter that much anyway. Hell, I can get it stable at 567MHZ on the core and memory and I can run F.E.A.R at maximum smoothly. Thanks for the replies.
 
Based on reading I have done in the last several days, I'm not sure if you did the BIOS flash correctly. Either that or you are using an incorrect BIOS that does not have the 16pl unlocked. The last digit in "Config_ROM_FUSES 0X861" should be 0 instead of 1. Where 0 would be no pipe quads locked, 1 is one set of quads locked, 2 is 3 sets of quads locked and 4 is all quad sets locked (16pl, 12pl, 8pl, 4pl, and 0pl active, respectively).

Good luck with getting your 16pl though man.



I seem to have a different problem I wonder if anyone can help me out with. I am using a ATI brand X850 PRO AGP. I have flashed my bios using the modded flashrom and several different BIOS all with the same result:


Device ID---------------------4B4B
Chip name--------------------R481
Host Interface----------------AGP
Catalyst Version-------------- 6.1
Memory Size------------------256 MB
Memory Type-----------------DDR3
Memory Bus Width------------256 Bit
Active Pipelines---------------12
Default GPU Clock-------------500 Mhz
Default Mem Clock------------500 Mhz
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES-----------0xFFFFEFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES---0xFFFFFF9E
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES----------0x860
GB_PIPE_SELECT--------------0x6E48


I have tried the original X850PRO bios modified to unlock 16pl but keep stock clock. I have tried the X850XT bios with 16pl unlocked. I have tried X850XTPE bios with 16pl unlocked. All with the same result. I am using the modded flashrom and the following command attempts with both:

flashrom -p -f 0 biosname.bin

flashrom -p 0 biosname.bin -f

Yet ATITool is still only reporting 12 active pipelines. Would it work if I tried the original ATIFlash utility? Or am I doing something wrong here? Each time I flash the bios the videocard gives the confirmation tones and i restart the computer to check ATITool.

:banghead:
 
JC316 said:
Ah well, it dosen't matter that much anyway. Hell, I can get it stable at 567MHZ on the core and memory and I can run F.E.A.R at maximum smoothly. Thanks for the replies.
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You are lucky then. I can't get my ATI X850 PRO AGP to core clock higher than 531 before locking everything up. Memory does 590 with ease, but I don't care to push it much higher than that. Currently just running 520/540 speed with stock cooling... but only on 12 pipelines for now. :(

I have noticed alot of people with the exact same card I have are reporting higher max core frequencies. I think I might exchange mine since I bought it at best buy and see if I have any luck with the same card but a different chip, since they will all have different headroom for overclocking. :)
 
Yeah, my Core and memory gets artifacts at 594 MHZ. The safe mode divider in the Omega drivers sets it at 567. I am sure I could get 580 out of both, but I am happy with 567. I used the BIOS for the X850 that kept the stock speeds, but unlocked the pipelines and I used the XT bios.
 
socaltex13 said:
Based on reading I have done in the last several days, I'm not sure if you did the BIOS flash correctly. Either that or you are using an incorrect BIOS that does not have the 16pl unlocked. The last digit in "Config_ROM_FUSES 0X861" should be 0 instead of 1. Where 0 would be no pipe quads locked, 1 is one set of quads locked, 2 is 3 sets of quads locked and 4 is all quad sets locked (16pl, 12pl, 8pl, 4pl, and 0pl active, respectively).

Good luck with getting your 16pl though man.



I seem to have a different problem I wonder if anyone can help me out with. I am using a ATI brand X850 PRO AGP. I have flashed my bios using the modded flashrom and several different BIOS all with the same result:


Device ID---------------------4B4B
Chip name--------------------R481
Host Interface----------------AGP
Catalyst Version-------------- 6.1
Memory Size------------------256 MB
Memory Type-----------------DDR3
Memory Bus Width------------256 Bit
Active Pipelines---------------12
Default GPU Clock-------------500 Mhz
Default Mem Clock------------500 Mhz
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES-----------0xFFFFEFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES---0xFFFFFF9E
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES----------0x860
GB_PIPE_SELECT--------------0x6E48


I have tried the original X850PRO bios modified to unlock 16pl but keep stock clock. I have tried the X850XT bios with 16pl unlocked. I have tried X850XTPE bios with 16pl unlocked. All with the same result. I am using the modded flashrom and the following command attempts with both:

flashrom -p -f 0 biosname.bin

flashrom -p 0 biosname.bin -f

Yet ATITool is still only reporting 12 active pipelines. Would it work if I tried the original ATIFlash utility? Or am I doing something wrong here? Each time I flash the bios the videocard gives the confirmation tones and i restart the computer to check ATITool.

:banghead:
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This is not correct. CONFIG_DIE_FUSES and CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES tell you if you can unlock pipes. CONFIG_ROM_FUSES just tells you how many pipes are enabled in bios, it is useful when your card is unlockable (CONFIG_DIE_FUSES-0xFFFFFFFF, CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES-0xFFFFFF9F). So from your fuses data i can tell you that you will not get any more pipes. But dont give up. If your core is R423 then there should be a bridge on your GPU that should be connected and brings you a possibility of having 16p. Look at the X800 Fuses Data thread . There you can find detail answers on your questions.
 
Seems like I'm in the same boat. I don't have Fs on those fuse readings. :( Oh well.
 
linenoyz said:
Seems like I'm in the same boat. I don't have Fs on those fuse readings. :( Oh well.
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What card do you have? And waht gpu type (R423/R430/R480)?
 
peta01 said:
What card do you have? And waht gpu type (R423/R430/R480)?
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ATI (Brand) X850 Pro AGP VIVO R481.

I've already tried flashing with a couple of different BIOSes (Pro, XT, and XT-PE) with no luck. I'm stuck to have 12 pipes.
 
peta01 said:
So from your fuses data i can tell you that you will not get any more pipes. But dont give up. If your core is R423 then there should be a bridge on your GPU that should be connected and brings you a possibility of having 16p.
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In my posted data it says Chip name---R481. Is that not my core? :confused:

(I've got soldering iron on standby, but if it turns out this card cannot be modded I am just 2 days within my 30 day return period at Best Buy. I will return it and buy whichever X850 PRO AGP card CAN be modded, so if it comes down to it.. what would be the best card to buy to do this mod and where can I get it? My current card is identical to linenoyz card; ATI (brand) X850 PRO AGP R481. Thanks for all your replies. :) )
 
if u dont have the red F's, u wont get a successfull flash with 16 pipes
 
socaltex13 said:
In my posted data it says Chip name---R481. Is that not my core? :confused:

(I've got soldering iron on standby, but if it turns out this card cannot be modded I am just 2 days within my 30 day return period at Best Buy. I will return it and buy whichever X850 PRO AGP card CAN be modded, so if it comes down to it.. what would be the best card to buy to do this mod and where can I get it? My current card is identical to linenoyz card; ATI (brand) X850 PRO AGP R481. Thanks for all your replies. :) )
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Hello, Just to let you know, I have two BBA X850PRO AGP,
Both are Flashed to 16 pipes 540/540, bought from CompUSA in October,05.
 
socaltex13 said:
In my posted data it says Chip name---R481. Is that not my core? :confused:

(I've got soldering iron on standby, but if it turns out this card cannot be modded I am just 2 days within my 30 day return period at Best Buy. I will return it and buy whichever X850 PRO AGP card CAN be modded, so if it comes down to it.. what would be the best card to buy to do this mod and where can I get it? My current card is identical to linenoyz card; ATI (brand) X850 PRO AGP R481. Thanks for all your replies. :) )
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Look for the older possible BBA X850PRO's VIVO AGP or MSI :) . In friday I will get my MSI X850PRO VIVO AGP (with dual slot cooler ;) and 16 pipes I hope :D ) .
 
I think that the best think is to buy X800GTO2. There is 100% possibility that you can unlock pipes. Some newer GTO2s have them already unlocked.
 
I think ATI figured out their mistake. My card is made by ATI, not a 3rd party. It is rock solid without the 16 pipelines. I figure I am doing pretty good when my 3dmark05 scores are 5374. According to benchmarking sites, that even out performs a 6800 ultra. If it were possible to get the 16 pipes with just a BIOS flash, I would, but when you are talking about soldering the core, I will pass. Thanks for all of the help.

AMD Athlon XP 3000+

1GB PC2100 DDR RAM

Windows XP Home

ATI Radeon X850 PRO AGP 256MB.
 
peta01 said:
Download AtiTool, run it, hold down shift key, click settings, release shift. Post here all lines including word fuse. Then I can tell you if you are able to unlock pipes.
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Hi , I just bought this card (x850 pro ) this is what I get
Device ID 4b4b
Chip name R481
Host Interface AGP
Catalyst Ver 6.4
Memory Size 256mb
memory type DDR3
Memory Bus 256bit
Active Pipelines 12
Default Gpu Clo 500MHZ
Default Mem 500MHZ
Config_Die_fuses 0xFFFFFFFF
Config_Rom_Fuses 0xFFFFFF9F
Config_Rom_fuses 0x861
Gb_pipe_select 0x2724

is it unlockable?
 
otrocarlosmas said:
Hi , I just bought this card (x850 pro ) this is what I get
Device ID 4b4b
Chip name R481
Host Interface AGP
Catalyst Ver 6.4
Memory Size 256mb
memory type DDR3
Memory Bus 256bit
Active Pipelines 12
Default Gpu Clo 500MHZ
Default Mem 500MHZ
Config_Die_fuses 0xFFFFFFFF
Config_Rom_Fuses 0xFFFFFF9F
Config_Rom_fuses 0x861
Gb_pipe_select 0x2724

is it unlockable?
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Yes, your card can be unlocked. Dump your bios whit atitool and post it here and we'll do the rest.
 
mmx said:
Yes, your card can be unlocked. Dump your bios whit atitool and post it here and we'll do the rest.
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YES IT WORKED! First I flash my card x850tx because I didnt want to over stress the memory but with atitools beta I sow that I got over 600MHZ on both core and memory so I re flash with x850xt Pe 540/590 The best part is fan control still works am still under normal heat 33c/50c (Ati NV Silencer ). Yes you need to reinstall drivers so its better if you uninstall the previous first .


Link for ati Bios --> http://www.techpowerup.com/bios/

DONT FORGET IF YOUR USING AGP GET AGP! :nutkick:
 
For all of you guys who really dont understand the bios/ DOS B.S I have created a Floppy disk with software and guide on how to unlock your ati x850pro AGP AND AGP ONLY!! to x850XT or x850xt/PE . Check it out and let me know..

http://www.geocities.com/marcos6026/X850.zip


** Dont Forget you will need to reinstall ati Drivers ones the bios have change.
 
i get 6057 points in 3dmark 05 and 1600 in 06

A643000+ oc to 2.43ghz
1gb ram dual channel
MSI k8N Neo2 Platinium
X850pro 12 pipes with 560/600 <--- i have E's instead of F's :S :(
wdc1200jb

Maybe ATI will release 1900GTO on AGP sometime ...grrr
I will stick with ATI
 
I bought my Connect 3d x850 pro agp at 21.6.2006 and at next day i modded it to xt. So i managed to open those extra 4 pipes. Thanks to Otrocarlosmas from that link.
 
For all of you that still are on AGP and look for upgrade to X850PRO VIVO AGP (or without VIVO - requires additional BIOS modification) and wonder whether it is possible to flash their X850PRO VIVO AGP to XT or XT PE - here is a link to automated flash utility on CD (bootable) with flashing instructions included:
http://savefile.com/projects/738578

Good luck
 
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