I have a ASUS RX470 4GB Mining graphics card, it keep on crashing every time i play euro truck simulator 2

[Napogamer]

I bought the card a month ago from someone who was using it for mining, the card has only one DVI port. At first the GPU would display, I used DDU to uninstall nvidia drivers for nvidia GPU i have been using. After installing the AMD software it couldn't show/appear on display adapter properties for display 1. On device manager under display adapters it was showing but with yellow triangle that has an exclamation mark inside. I couldn't flash the bios even though tried watching videos on youtube on how to flash the graphics for gaming. I then came across a video when someone used a software "atikmdag-patcher", I downloaded the software, followed after the video and restarted my PC, AMD software was there.

On game altra graphics the GPU would overheat, turn off the PC and boot again, I had a thermal paste so I opened the card and used Methylated spirit to clean the card CPU and cooler and then applied a thermal paste. it was fine for couple of weeks and then it started crashing and booting the PC but this time with some blue screen "not the normal one that is usually referred to as the blue screen of death". This one there is no writing at all. After this happened when the PC is finally on a desktop there is a AMD pop-up notification that says the settings have been restored due to system failure. I thought maybe GPU was overheating so I opened it again but then the thermal paste had not tried up. I went on to use Methylated spirit to clean the CPU and put it back on again. The game starts and plays for a little while and then PC restarts again.

I went back to youtube, the other video suggested that I install just drives and leave the AMD software out since sometimes it is the cause of GPU crash. I did that, went to display adapters on a device manager and installed the drivers from there. The game scaling was blurry but the GPU didn't crash, even the normal display was a bit blurry I didn't like it so i went back to install AMD software then back to crashing again.

I went back to youtube again, I find a step by step video on how to flash the bios, the GPU memory is samsung. i used GPU-Z to identify the memory and went to AMD website to download GPU bios. I used amdvbflash to flash the bios, however i backed-up the original bios. After flashing bios the screen stutters regularly even when not playing a game. Another issue is that some AMD software, the latest AMD software adrenalin edition and pro edition detect the card as RX570 but whql amd software adrenaline edition detects it as RX470. I don't know if it crashed because of the wrong bios or what. I would really appreciate your help.

 

[Imperator]

Hello.
As you mentioned, you bought a dedicated card for mining.
Well, for sure you have a mining BIOS - i mean the original one.
In order to achieve what you are looking for, you need to flash into your card a gaming BIOS.
The problem would be to find a working one that will fit your card.
So, in order to do that i suggest 1st to save your current BIOS.
Store it in a safe place for further use.
Flash it back into your card.
Then we will need the following pictures:
GPU-z main screen
GPU-z > advanced tab > dropdown menu and choose memory
Labels from the card

 

[Vario]

To me, this just sounds like classic ex mining card. Prior owner probably abused it. I had this on the two ex mining cards I had and I resolved to not buy ex mining cards again.

 

[Napogamer]

Hello.
As you mentioned, you bought a dedicated card for mining.
Well, for sure you have a mining BIOS - i mean the original one.
In order to achieve what you are looking for, you need to flash into your card a gaming BIOS.
The problem would be to find a working one that will fit your card.
So, in order to do that i suggest 1st to save your current BIOS.
Store it in a safe place for further use.
Flash it back into your card.
Then we will need the following pictures:
GPU-z main screen
GPU-z > advanced tab > dropdown menu and choose memory
Labels from the card

Thanks for hit-up,

i did saved the GPU original bios but the issue is finding the working bios, can you perhaps assist where i can get a working bios. the one i have downloaded makes a screen to show some weird colors then screen freezes and goes black and normal

 

[Napogamer]

To me, this just sounds like classic ex mining card. Prior owner probably abused it. I had this on the two ex mining cards I had and I resolved to not buy ex mining cards again.

Now know better Vario I will never buy a ex mining GPU ever again

 

[Athlonite]

I would have not fannied around with it once you knew it was wonky in game and just gone straight to getting your money back from the seller ex mining GPU's are never a good buy no matter how cheap

 

[Count von Schwalbe]

can you perhaps assist where i can get a working bios.

As Imperator said:

Then we will need the following pictures:
GPU-z main screen
GPU-z > advanced tab > dropdown menu and choose memory
Labels from the card

These are imperative to selecting a VBIOS that will not brick your card.

 

[Imperator]

in order to find and exact match for your card we need those pictures.
Thanks

 

[Nike_486DX]

As others already said, pop that heatsink off and provide photos of your card.
We need to see the gpu, the vram chips, and also the information stickers
All this is needed to properly identify the card

 

[Dr. Dro]

Now know better Vario I will never buy a ex mining GPU ever again

That would be wise. The concept that miners treat their hardware well, running them in an air-conditioned room, manually overvolted to perfection in each and every instance is a commonly spread lie, miners needed an easy way out if their crypto venture croaked before any meaningful returns. In large-scale operations, then, such as the ones that used specific Mining SKUs like your card, absolutely zero miners optimized or cared for them. It's not profitable to do so, because this takes time, and time not spent mining is time wasted without profit.

in order to find and exact match for your card we need those pictures.
Thanks

When OP meant "ASUS Mining RX 470", I believe they quite literally meant it:

ASUS RX 470 Mining Specs

AMD Ellesmere, 1206 MHz, 2048 Cores, 128 TMUs, 32 ROPs, 4096 MB GDDR5, 1750 MHz, 256 bit

www.techpowerup.com

It's an RX 470 SKU that was designed from the ground up for mining, as such, there's no "gaming BIOS" for this, the one it comes with to begin with was already intended for mining, with just an HDMI-out left behind for when the GPU inevitably got reused. It serves as a good reminder that the video card industry was fully on board with the cryptocurrency thing.

 

[Deleted member 185158]

That would be wise. The concept that miners treat their hardware well, running them in an air-conditioned room, manually overvolted to perfection in each and every instance is a commonly spread lie, miners needed an easy way out if their crypto venture croaked before any meaningful returns. In large-scale operations, then, such as the ones that used specific Mining SKUs like your card, absolutely zero miners optimized or cared for them. It's not profitable to do so, because this takes time, and time not spent mining is time wasted without profit.



When OP meant "ASUS Mining RX 470", I believe they quite literally meant it:

ASUS RX 470 Mining Specs

AMD Ellesmere, 1206 MHz, 2048 Cores, 128 TMUs, 32 ROPs, 4096 MB GDDR5, 1750 MHz, 256 bit

www.techpowerup.com

It's an RX 470 SKU that was designed from the ground up for mining, as such, there's no "gaming BIOS" for this, the one it comes with to begin with was already intended for mining, with just an HDMI-out left behind for when the GPU inevitably got reused. It serves as a good reminder that the video card industry was fully on board with the cryptocurrency thing.

This is excellent information!

Really I'm surprised there isn't a stickied thread concerning differences of GPU's. This would really help people research before a purchase, if there's such activity going on....

 

[Lei]

Now know better Vario I will never buy a ex mining GPU ever again

It doesn't hurt buying used GPU even mining ones if they were used properly.
That Rx470 was released in 2016. What do you expect from 7 years of working?

 

[Count von Schwalbe]

This is excellent information!

Really I'm surprised there isn't a stickied thread concerning differences of GPU's. This would really help people research before a purchase, if there's such activity going on....

They are using the same dies, VRAM, and in many cases the same boards, with as many features removed as possible to save money. One of the most evident is the reduced outputs.

There are usually VBIOS files that are perfectly compatible and designed for gaming.

That Rx470 was released in 2016. What do you expect from 7 years of working?

It appears that new boards are still being manufactured, mostly in China. AMD seems to have made a few too many dies...

 

[Deleted member 185158]

They are using the same dies, VRAM, and in many cases the same boards, with as many features removed as possible to save money. One of the most evident is the reduced outputs.

There are usually VBIOS files that are perfectly compatible and designed for gaming.

It appears that new boards are still being manufactured, mostly in China. AMD seems to have made a few too many dies...

Just can't trust them ebay sales. The seller should be very clear about the GPU and its previous use. This is why I barter and trade in forums instead. A lot more personal that way.

So there's mining bioses that are capable of gaming, but it sounds like the card would be crippled in one way or another.

 

[Count von Schwalbe]

So there's mining bioses that are capable of gaming, but it sounds like the card would be crippled in one way or another

You can usually cross flash a perfectly good gaming BIOS to a mining card. Not always though, and that doesn't prevent the card from dying due to already sustained damage.

 

[Dr. Dro]

This is excellent information!

Really I'm surprised there isn't a stickied thread concerning differences of GPU's. This would really help people research before a purchase, if there's such activity going on....

I've been considering writing a FAQ thread clarifying the risks and myths of used cards, yeas and nays of ex-cryptomining GPUs, general information surrounding licensed AIBs, VBIOS flashing basics, etc.; I might as well put the time to do so sometime soon. I've noticed a pattern that recently the amount of threads requesting help surrounding ex-mining GPUs, with people hopeful a simple VBIOS flash would fix them has gone up quite significantly. A lot of the regulars also go on autopilot and outright recommend them to pursue flashing the cards, too, which probably doesn't help every case. We'll see.

They are using the same dies, VRAM, and in many cases the same boards, with as many features removed as possible to save money. One of the most evident is the reduced outputs.

There are usually VBIOS files that are perfectly compatible and designed for gaming.

It appears that new boards are still being manufactured, mostly in China. AMD seems to have made a few too many dies...

One shouldn't be required in this specific card's case. It should work normally with games, unless the BIOS that came with it was replaced by something else entirely. But if the GPU ever output video here, that may be unlikely.

 

[Napogamer]

To me, this just sounds like classic ex mining card. Prior owner probably abused it. I had this on the two ex mining cards I had and I resolved to not buy ex mining cards again.

Now know better Vario I will never buy a ex mining GPU ever aga

Hello.
As you mentioned, you bought a dedicated card for mining.
Well, for sure you have a mining BIOS - i mean the original one.
In order to achieve what you are looking for, you need to flash into your card a gaming BIOS.
The problem would be to find a working one that will fit your card.
So, in order to do that i suggest 1st to save your current BIOS.
Store it in a safe place for further use.
Flash it back into your card.
Then we will need the following pictures:
GPU-z main screen
GPU-z > advanced tab > dropdown menu and choose memory
Labels from the card

I

Hello.
As you mentioned, you bought a dedicated card for mining.
Well, for sure you have a mining BIOS - i mean the original one.
In order to achieve what you are looking for, you need to flash into your card a gaming BIOS.
The problem would be to find a working one that will fit your card.
So, in order to do that i suggest 1st to save your current BIOS.
Store it in a safe place for further use.
Flash it back into your card.
Then we will need the following pictures:
GPU-z main screen
GPU-z > advanced tab > dropdown menu and choose memory
Labels from the card

Oooh my apologies, i was at work when i check the comments. please see the following attachments\pictures. I struggled a bit to understand what was required

 

[Napogamer]

As others already said, pop that heatsink off and provide photos of your card.
We need to see the gpu, the vram chips, and also the information stickers
All this is needed to properly identify the card

the informative stickers you mean the ones that are on a card, i should take pictures of those also?

 

[Dr. Dro]

Oooh my apologies, i was at work when i check the comments. please see the following attachments\pictures. I struggled a bit to understand what was required

That won't be necessary. There is only one RX 470 model that has a single DVI port with no other outputs, and it is the one you have. It is a card designed for mining from the ground up, and as such it never required a "custom BIOS", unless one wanted to optimize it further. This doesn't apply to your particular card, because your GPU-Z looks correct for this card, and the BIOS installed on it is the original, verified for it:

Asus RX 470 VBIOS

4 GB GDDR5, 1206 MHz GPU, 1750 MHz Memory

www.techpowerup.com

Do not flash your card with anything else: it already has the original BIOS installed! You may attempt to reflash this same BIOS from the link above, however this is unlikely to fix your problem: your GPU is simply dying from years of cryptocurrency mining, its hardware is faulty - card is junked, sorry.

The list of things you can do at this point is very short:

1. Clean the contacts in the card with contact cleaner spray and check your PCIe slot for debris (very unlikely)
2. Use Driver Store Explorer to get rid of every possible trace of previous drivers
3. Install the latest driver again
4. In case this still doesn't work, reflash the BIOS using amdvbflash from link above (it is the same your card has, but guaranteed to be free from corruption)
5. If all else fails replace the GPU.

 

[Napogamer]

That won't be necessary. There is only one RX 470 model that has a single DVI port with no other outputs, and it is the one you have. It is a card designed for mining from the ground up, and as such it never required a "custom BIOS", unless one wanted to optimize it further. This doesn't apply to your particular card, because your GPU-Z looks correct for this card, and the BIOS installed on it is the original, verified for it:

Asus RX 470 VBIOS

4 GB GDDR5, 1206 MHz GPU, 1750 MHz Memory

www.techpowerup.com

Do not flash your card with anything else: it already has the original BIOS installed! You may attempt to reflash this same BIOS from the link above, however this is unlikely to fix your problem: your GPU is simply dying from years of cryptocurrency mining, its hardware is faulty - card is junked, sorry.

The list of things you can do at this point is very short:

1. Clean the contacts in the card with contact cleaner spray and check your PCIe slot for debris (very unlikely)
2. Use Driver Store Explorer to get rid of every possible trace of previous drivers
3. Install the latest driver again
4. In case this still doesn't work, reflash the BIOS using amdvbflash from link above (it is the same your card has, but guaranteed to be free from corruption)
5. If all else fails replace the GPU.

I will show you the screen that comes when i attempt to play game after flashing, the AMD reports timeout error. if maybe there is a way around that timeout error. I already check for other possible fix for that but non worked.

could it be possible that this GPU can't handle euro truck simulator? the reason I am asking is because with other games it works fine but whenever i play ets2 it shuts the pc down. could it be maybe my power supply isn't enough or it overheats. can cooling fan reduce the crashing?

 

[Dr. Dro]

I will show you the screen that comes when i attempt to play game after flashing, the AMD reports timeout error. if maybe there is a way around that timeout error. I already check for other possible fix for that but non worked.

could it be possible that this GPU can't handle euro truck simulator? the reason I am asking is because with other games it works fine but whenever i play ets2 it shuts the pc down. could it be maybe my power supply isn't enough or it overheats. can cooling fan reduce the crashing?

ETS2 will run on an RX 470 just fine. If other games work in general, you may just be running into some temperature problems. Have you opened it to clean ever since you got it? Double check the thermal paste, see if the thermal pads aren't damaged. If all is good - try lowering the GPU core frequency by about 200 MHz, as a start.

Mined cards are often degraded, if reducing the GPU core clock makes the issue go away, than that's just a sign that your card is on its way out.

 

[Napogamer]

ETS2 will run on an RX 470 just fine. If other games work in general, you may just be running into some temperature problems. Have you opened it to clean ever since you got it? Double check the thermal paste, see if the thermal pads aren't damaged. If all is good - try lowering the GPU core frequency by about 200 MHz, as a start.

Mined cards are often degraded, if reducing the GPU core clock makes the issue go away, than that's just a sign that your card is on its way out.

Yah i did open it to change the thermal paste but now the issue is I don't really know where to check thermal pads or how they look like. For now i will to reduce the GPU frequency for now and see how it goes

 

[Nike_486DX]

Yah i did open it to change the thermal paste but now the issue is I don't really know where to check thermal pads or how they look like. For now i will to reduce the GPU frequency for now and see how it goes

rx 470 asus is a poorly designed card. afaik it doesnt have any thermal pads, and mining specifically stresses vram
As the result you get vram burnout (like shown on the photo). If thats your case, your best bet would be to severely downclock the vram. Maybe all the way down to 800-1000mhz. Try with afterburner and see if that helps

 

[Napogamer]

Which mean when i bought this thing it was almost dead.... This is sad because i used almos 110$ for it. What a waste of my hard earned money

This are the vrams i suppose and some look like the ones on the picture you share. Are these being sold individually if there is a hope of repairing this?

 

[Nike_486DX]

Which mean when i bought this thing it was almost dead.... This is sad because i used almos 110$ for it. What a waste of my hard earned money

This are the vrams i suppose and some look like the ones on the picture you share. Are these being sold individually if there is a hope of repairing this?

definitely some burnout, although doesnt look that bad.
Gotta lower the vram clocks and see if it helps ("Memory clock" in Msi afterburner, slide the adjuster all the way to the left, then click "apply" and try to play a game)