i5 2500K or i5 3570K

gopal · Aug 2, 2012

I5 2500K or i5 3570K they both will be running on a Intel DZ68BC, I want to Overclock my CPU to 4.5 GHz or 4.2 GHz atleast.

My friend have this board and he has OCed a i7 2600K to 5.1 Ghz stable with a Corsair H60, so you don't have to worry about that this Board cannot oc.

I will be using a Stock Cooler(5-6 months later a Corsair H60)

I also want to know that if i buy the i5 3570K do i have to update the bios to run 3570K On Intel DZ68BC?

:pimp:

EDIT: What are the safe temps for both of the CPUs?

Shou Miko · Aug 2, 2012

well i think u need to update the on the Intel DZ68BC even it supports Ivy Bridge i don't think it will come with the newest bios, but u may be lucky that it comes with a bios that support Ivy Bridge.

my own Asus Maximus IV Gene-Z/Gen3 supported Ivy Bridge right out of the box bcs it's PCI-Express Gen. 3, and when u don't already have a i5-2500k go with the i5-3570k instead.

gopal · Aug 2, 2012

puma99dk| said:
well i think u need to update the on the Intel DZ68BC even it supports Ivy Bridge i don't think it will come with the newest bios, but u may be lucky that it comes with a bios that support Ivy Bridge.

my own Asus Maximus IV Gene-Z/Gen3 supported Ivy Bridge right out of the box bcs it's PCI-Express Gen. 3, and when u don't already have a i5-2500k go with the i5-3570k instead.

How i can update the bios?
Where i can get the bios?
How to know which version is to download?

EDIT: Okay i Know where to get the bios and wich one to get, but how i can update the bios?

Shou Miko · Aug 2, 2012

gopal said:
How i can update the bios?
Where i can get the bios?
How to know which version is to download?

that's simple gopal, u go to Intel's Download Center: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Sea...ds&ProductProduct=Intel®+Desktop+Board+DZ68BC

and under type u click on Bios and u will see 7 bios' and version 0037 [BCZ6810H.86A] being the newest.

if u don't the zip file u get iflash with ur bios update so make a bootable usb drive and than copy over bio, itk and exe file and boot on it, if the board don't got build in bios flash feature.

gopal · Aug 2, 2012

puma99dk| said:
that's simple gopal, u go to Intel's Download Center: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Sea...ds&ProductProduct=Intel®+Desktop+Board+DZ68BC

and under type u click on Bios and u will see 7 bios' and version 0037 [BCZ6810H.86A] being the newest.

if u don't the zip file u get iflash with ur bios update so make a bootable usb drive and than copy over bio, itk and exe file and boot on it, if the board don't got build in bios flash feature.

Looks like very easy, So i am going with the i5 3570K

EDIT: Can anyone tell me in detail becuse this will be my first time bios update

Shou Miko · Aug 2, 2012

gopal said:
Looks like very easy, So i am going with the i5 3570K

EDIT: Can anyone tell me in detail becuse this will be my first time bios update

Instructions for iFlash BIOS update (Intel.com)

ur hotkey for getting up the boot menu may be different but the method should be the same.

nikko · Aug 2, 2012

You basically 1) run the downloaded executable file from windows OS and then restart and the flashing process starts. 2) or boot and press the F7 key and browse the path to the downloaded BIO file on NTFS partition and flash it which should look like 1) from this point.

And remember to load bios defaults or remove overclock before flash because it will not flash it if it detects overclocking present.

The method 3) downloading the ZIP file with many file in it I have never used.

gopal · Aug 2, 2012

puma99dk| said:
Instructions for iFlash BIOS update (Intel.com)

ur hotkey for getting up the boot menu may be different but the method should be the same.

nikko said:
You basically 1) run the downloaded executable file from windows OS and then restart and the flashing process starts. 2) or boot and press the F7 key and browse the path to the downloaded BIO file on NTFS partition and flash it which should look like 1) from this point.

And remember to load bios defaults or remove overclock before flash because it will not flash it if it detects overclocking present.

The method 3) downloading the ZIP file with many file in it I have never used.

Will it work when the processor is not supported by the factory bios?
I mean it will need a CPU to process a task

Shou Miko · Aug 2, 2012

well it may start up or may not.

i remember one of my old build with a newer cpu than board it started up but showing "Intel (R) Genuine Processor" and than Speed of the cpu.

gopal · Aug 2, 2012

puma99dk| said:
well it may start up or may not.

i remember one of my old build with a newer cpu than board it started up but showing "Intel (R) Genuine Processor" and than Speed of the cpu.

Maybe i should take the i5 2500K to not be in a bios mess or do you know someone who did that type of bios update before?

IS there any forums on intel's site so i can ask them?

Shou Miko · Aug 2, 2012

i never had a Intel branded board before, i tried with Asus, AsRock, ECS, Gigabyte and MSI branded boards.

NdMk2o1o · Aug 2, 2012

puma99dk| said:
well i think u need to update the on the Intel DZ68BC even it supports Ivy Bridge i don't think it will come with the newest bios, but u may be lucky that it comes with a bios that support Ivy Bridge.

my own Asus Maximus IV Gene-Z/Gen3 supported Ivy Bridge right out of the box bcs it's PCI-Express Gen. 3, and when u don't already have a i5-2500k go with the i5-3570k instead.

This board is reported on Intel site as requiring bios 0035 minimum bios revision for 3570k

(stupid intel graph hard to read hence the edit)

http://processormatch.intel.com/CompDB/SearchResult.aspx?BoardName=DZ68BC

gopal · Aug 2, 2012

NdMk2o1o said:
This board is reported on Intel site as requiring bios 0035 minimum bios revision for 3570k

(stupid intel graph hard to read hence the edit)

http://processormatch.intel.com/CompDB/SearchResult.aspx?BoardName=DZ68BC

THat is not my question right now i want to know that how can i flash my bios when the CPU is not supported by the factory bios

NdMk2o1o · Aug 2, 2012

gopal said:
THat is not my question right now i want to know that how can i flash my bios when the CPU is not supported by the factory bios

What bios revision is it? it may well already be 0035, you haven't mentioned this.

gopal · Aug 2, 2012

NdMk2o1o said:
What bios revision is it? it may well already be 0035, you haven't mentioned this.

I don't think that it will come with the 0035 bios version i think it will be the oldest

NdMk2o1o · Aug 2, 2012

gopal said:
I don't think that it will come with the 0035 bios version i think it will be the oldest

Boards do ship with newer revisions, don't assume, if it's a new board ask the seller if they know the revision, alternatively ask if they could update the bios for you?

gopal · Aug 2, 2012

NdMk2o1o said:
Boards do ship with newer revisions, don't assume, if it's a new board ask the seller if they know the revision, alternatively ask if they could update the bios for you?

Yeah i like that solution

Aquinus · Aug 2, 2012

I like my ASUS board that lets me flash the BIOS without having a CPU or any RAM. Some processors may work (not well,) without the BIOS. This was the case when I installed a newer Athlon 64 X2 into an AM2+ motherboard several years ago. It posted but it wouldn't boot. Once I flashed the motherboard it worked great, but you run the risk of not being able to flash the motherboard if it decides to not even post with the CPU.

I take it that you don't have a slower 1155 chip to rely on just in case.
Worse comes to worse, if you want to make sure you can flash it (or you end up going with IVB and it doesn't boot,) you could always get a cheap SB chip just to flash it, like a G440.
Intel Celeron G440 1.6GHz LGA 1155 Single-Core Des...

gopal · Aug 2, 2012

NdMk2o1o said:
alternatively ask if they could update the bios for you?

Aquinus said:
you could always get a cheap SB chip just to flash it, like a G440.
Intel Celeron G440 1.6GHz LGA 1155 Single-Core Des...

Well there two are the solution i can do but Aquinus's solution is out of my budget.

Chicken Patty · Aug 2, 2012

If the board does not already come with a BIOS version that supports your CPU you might not be able to flash the BIOS. You may need to either buy or borrow a CPU that it supports to flash it at first.

gopal · Aug 2, 2012

Chicken Patty said:
If the board does not already come with a BIOS version that supports your CPU you might not be able to flash the BIOS. You may need to either buy or borrow a CPU that it supports to flash it at first.

I will better go with the i5 2500K

Chicken Patty · Aug 2, 2012

If you don't want to go through the hassle then that'll probably be your best bet.

gopal · Aug 2, 2012

Chicken Patty said:
If you don't want to go through the hassle then that'll probably be your best bet.

Yeah, and it is cheap too

m1dg3t · Aug 2, 2012

Can you not use a different MoBo, something z77 based? That would solve your problem I think, building a new system with "old" hardware seems kinda silly to me :eek:

gopal · Aug 2, 2012

m1dg3t said:
Can you not use a different MoBo, something z77 based? That would solve your problem I think, building a new system with "old" hardware seems kinda silly to me

Well i can buy Intel DZ77GA-70K but i don't know the price of it i can spend 265$ for the mobo but i want only Intel

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