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[DaMulta]

Yep, I wouldn't be able to do this for another week or so. I would think it would take the bigger one my X1950XTX has a huge heatsink on it. Maybe water would be the way to go. How hot does the top get?

 

[d44ve]

VERY hot.... I see that in your SIG it says you are running water. What setup are you running with it?

 

[DaMulta]

Ahh it's not that great(cheap kit) I'm about to mod it. I like the block but the radiator is very small two 60mm fans fit it.

Looking here for one http://www.dangerden.com/store/home.php?cat=5

I think this block would work good with that TEC maybe

 

[Wile E]

How do you know how much of the mobo to cover with the plastic dip? Is every setup different in that regard? I've been kicking around the idea of going tec, just don't know much about the water proofing.

And about how many amps does the 226w tec draw? Is it about 19a, as the rating suggests?

What do you think it will take take to cool a 226w tec, nForce4 chipset and a 2900XT? You think a 3x120mm and a 1x120mm rad will handle it?

Sorry for all the questions, d44ve. I'm really interested in this. Thanx for shedding some light on this.

 

[d44ve]

DaMulta

I'll tell you what.... I am feeling nice and I always see you trying to help out other people. This is what I am going to do for you.

I have an extra 175w TEC and an extra TT VGA waterblock and some extra insulation.

THe waterblock is missing the hardware mounting kit... but it will be easy to make it work.

You can have it all to get yourself into TEC cooling. Hit me up on PM and we can work everything out.

If you get it and decide you dont need it or want it, just send it back it me. THats all I ask.

And if you do keep it, maybe sometime down the line I will ask you for a favor.

 

[d44ve]

How do you know how much of the mobo to cover with the plastic dip? Is every setup different in that regard? I've been kicking around the idea of going tec, just don't know much about the water proofing.

And about how many amps does the 226w tec draw? Is it about 19a, as the rating suggests?

What do you think it will take take to cool a 226w tec, nForce4 chipset and a 2900XT? You think a 3x120mm and a 1x120mm rad will handle it?

Sorry for all the questions, d44ve. I'm really interested in this. Thanx for shedding some light on this.

I do not know the exact draw on the TEC. When I get back home I will get that for you.

Some people like to do the whole back board with the plastic dip, but I feel that is overkill. I did to where I would feel that the extreme drop in temp would effect the board

The RADS that you have I believe would be more than enough. I personally think the 3x120mm would be enough too.

Dont worry about the questions... this is the exact reason why I made this thread


EDIT : BTW, its not so much water proofing. Its more for insulation. With the plastic dip, it will stop air getting to the board and thus stopping condensation from forming from the water in the air

 

[Zeratul_uy]

I do not know the exact draw on the TEC. When I get back home I will get that for you.

Some people like to do the whole back board with the plastic dip, but I feel that is overkill. I did to where I would feel that the extreme drop in temp would effect the board

The RADS that you have I believe would be more than enough. I personally think the 3x120mm would be enough too.

Dont worry about the questions... this is the exact reason why I made this thread


EDIT : BTW, its not so much water proofing. Its more for insulation. With the plastic dip, it will stop air getting to the board and thus stopping condensation from forming from the water in the air

You mean that it'll condensate the water on the plastic and not on the mobo right? So it's better to paint it all? I mean, all the mobo's back?

 

[d44ve]

You mean that it'll condensate the water on the plastic and not on the mobo right? So it's better to paint it all? I mean, all the mobo's back?

Yes and no.... the plastic dip does insulate the board. and like I said, it makes it so that the humid air will not come in contact with the cold board.

However, if condensation does happen to occur, it will be on the plastic and not the board.

The reason why I didnt do all over the board though is because some of the pins and other parts do get really hot back there and I am not 100% sure how that will effect it.

EDIT : also, just to let you know... I did test my theory with the plastic dip acting as an insulator.

I covered a can with aprox. 1mm thick of the plastic dip. I then pored very chilled water in the can and stuck it outside. I did not get any condensation through the platic dip. But that doesnt mean it is 100% condensation proof. Thats why I added the insulation behind the chip.

 

[Zeratul_uy]

Yes and no.... the plastic dip does insulate the board. and like I said, it makes it so that the humid air will not come in contact with the cold board.

However, if condensation does happen to occur, it will be on the plastic and not the board.

The reason why I didnt do all over the board though is because some of the pins and other parts do get really hot back there and I am not 100% sure how that will effect it.

EDIT : also, just to let you know... I did test my theory with the plastic dip acting as an insulator.

I covered a can with aprox. 1mm thick of the plastic dip. I then pored very chilled water in the can and stuck it outside. I did not get any condensation through the platic dip. But that doesnt mean it is 100% condensation proof. Thats why I added the insulation behind the chip.

Great, thanks d44ve

 

[trt740]

Dave wanted to tell it's great what your doing Ive never seen this before please I know it's alot to aks but write a complete guide and post it. What you have done is great thx for all the photo's. This is the kinda of stuff that developes new tech for overclocking like heapipes etc...

 

[d44ve]

Oh, I defenatly plan on doing a complete write up on it.

I just have not had time do to. I plan on getting everything started next week.

I appreciate the kind words, it makes me feel like it worth all the trouble.

However, this is far from a new idea. Many people have been doing this. I just havent seen a good write up with simple terms and plenty of pictures. You can describe something the best you can, but it just doesnt do the job.

Just like the old saying, a picture is worth a thousand words.

 

[Zeratul_uy]

Oh, I defenatly plan on doing a complete write up on it.

I just have not had time do to. I plan on getting everything started next week.

I appreciate the kind words, it makes me feel like it worth all the trouble.

However, this is far from a new idea. Many people have been doing this. I just havent seen a good write up with simple terms and plenty of pictures. You can describe something the best you can, but it just doesnt do the job.

Just like the old saying, a picture is worth a thousand words.

Roger that!

 

[FOXCONN1115]

Help me out here.... what do you see wrong? Did I miss something?

I am always up for advice especially if I overlooked something

Does all that really help lower temps..? Is it 100% safe? If it does lower temps and is highly safe, I'd just coat the whole damn back of the board.. lol

 

[d44ve]

Does all that really help lower temps..? Is it 100% safe? If it does lower temps and is highly safe, I'd just coat the whole damn back of the board.. lol

the insulating the board doesnt do anything for lowering temps. The whole point of me insulating the board is because I am using a TEC, which will get the processor and the board below ambient temps.

I am insulating it to avoid condensation.

 

[d44ve]

OK, I just got back from vacation. I will try and finish up this write up soon.

I think just to clean things up, I will make a new thread and clean up the pictures a bit.

However, in the meantime.... if you have any questions, please let free to ask away

 

[FOXCONN1115]

the insulating the board doesnt do anything for lowering temps. The whole point of me insulating the board is because I am using a TEC, which will get the processor and the board below ambient temps.

I am insulating it to avoid condensation.

Ahhhh I see. Well it would be awesome if it lowered temps, then I'd just dip my whole mobo. Lol

 

[d44ve]

Ahhhh I see. Well it would be awesome if it lowered temps, then I'd just dip my whole mobo. Lol

It would most likley make the temps higher

 

[FOXCONN1115]

yeah thats true unless it was a heat dispersing compound, which would be freakin cool

 

[Retrocon]

Awsome! Thanks for the post. I have been looking for something like this

 

[Dippyskoodlez]

OK, I just got back from vacation. I will try and finish up this write up soon.

I think just to clean things up, I will make a new thread and clean up the pictures a bit.

However, in the meantime.... if you have any questions, please let free to ask away

Very nice pics


At first I was confused as to how you managed to cram the TEC into the waterblock, but it appears you're just using a baseplate from another heatsink? Or is this a TEC version?


And yes that insulation paste for the back is beautiful. Bet it works wonders, compared to the thermal grease a lot of people use.


Now to find me a place to get some liquid nitrogen....

 

[Garb3]

that really is cool(no pun intended) i was thinkin about goin tec myself but i need to get better water cooling first

 

[d44ve]

Very nice pics


At first I was confused as to how you managed to cram the TEC into the waterblock, but it appears you're just using a baseplate from another heatsink? Or is this a TEC version?


And yes that insulation paste for the back is beautiful. Bet it works wonders, compared to the thermal grease a lot of people use.


Now to find me a place to get some liquid nitrogen....

Its the Maze4 Peltier version.

It has a cold plate that screws to the water block.

I can take better pictures of it if you want

 

[Dippyskoodlez]

Its the Maze4 Peltier version.

It has a cold plate that screws to the water block.

I can take better pictures of it if you want

nah, I know how its made

Just didn't know there was a peltier version.

I have one

 

[d44ve]

DaMulta

I'll tell you what.... I am feeling nice and I always see you trying to help out other people. This is what I am going to do for you.

I have an extra 175w TEC and an extra TT VGA waterblock and some extra insulation.

THe waterblock is missing the hardware mounting kit... but it will be easy to make it work.

You can have it all to get yourself into TEC cooling. Hit me up on PM and we can work everything out.

If you get it and decide you dont need it or want it, just send it back it me. THats all I ask.

And if you do keep it, maybe sometime down the line I will ask you for a favor.

awww crap.... I forgot all about this.

Hit me up on PMs with your address

 

[coodiggy]

hi d44ve it takes "TWO" of those for the upgrade! On a cold plate that tapers down to the cpu slug with a couple waterblocks across a thinner; like aorund .035" Hot-plate on the hotside with some good cpu goop.. Then it can really get interesting numbers.

Power consumption?????? Compared to John forces fuel bill for the last year? Or the cost of the shuttle launch to see what super bacteria they could make up there in zero gravity and then bring it BACK!!!! where they have the potential to crash and spread their experiments all over US? EHEHEHH....

And we have NO sponsers in our courtyards! LOL!

~edit, maybe don't even need the thin hotplate if you can screw/sandwitch the waterblock/s to the dual TEC/cold plate. I got the qx6700 recently and it is very hot even at idle, people are heat saturating 226w peltiers with them and getting better stable OC's with a plain old good water cooling system... To OC these you'd need phase change, or insulated Water loops and put the peltiers inline with their own waterblocks and heatsink fans, but not directly on the CPU! Might wanna wait for the new NM process quad extreme for the upgrade, or new AMD quad? The e6600 is SICK fast when OC'd above 3.6, same with amd equivalent at a 6000+ OC.