Intel 10700K system - need advice

[sepheronx]

System Builder

ca.pcpartpicker.com

Here is the listing I have so far. My understanding is the cooler isn't included so I need a cooler. Any suggestions? His budget is $1300 CAD.

The powersupply and case are kind of a placeholder as I haven't fully decided on PSU and the case I think my friend may want isn't listed on partpicker.

Friend will be using his Vega 56 GPU for now waiting for the next series of GPU's. As well, I am covering $200 (so I will be buying the SSD and the RAM) as I am getting his old computer out of that deal (Alienware Aurora R5).

Thank you!

 

[cucker tarlson]

change the case for something more airflow - oriented.I can vouch for p600s but there's very good cases that sell cheaper.
adata ssd is not bad,but I wouldn't buy a micron tlc based drive since it's by far the worst nand out there,imo get a mp510,cs3030 or something else bics-based
psu - focus,prime,superflower or rmx - best quality and noise levels.
better boards can be bought for 240 dollars.strx z490 g is matx but has all the features of an atx.

 

[sepheronx]

change the case for something more airflow - oriented.I can vouch for p600s but there's very good cases that sell cheaper.
adata ssd is not bad,but I wouldn't buy a micron tlc drive since it's by far the worst nand out there,imo get a mp510,cs3030 or something else bics-based
psu - focus,prime,superflower or rmx - best quality and noise levels.
better boards can be bought for 240 dollars.strx z490 g is matx but has all the features of an atx.

Let me remind you, case is a placeholder. As I said, the case I selected isn't listed on pcpartpicker.

As for PSU, we are very limited to what I can buy out here. And due to his budget being very limited, cant find much (especially locally) for around $150 without getting garbage. So if you can check out memoryexpress.com or amazon.ca and help me find one of a good deal, then great! if not, then I am forced to use something else.

And matx is fine but what is wrong with the board I selected? It has a USB-C front port which is needed too.

Edit: Oh, forgot, the NVME drive was a placeholder for this: https://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX77531

Edit 2: here is this PSU I may select: https://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX70909 but I may go for a bit cheaper depending on my friends budget adjustments.

 

[Hyderz]

A Corsair h115i 240mm cooler or any good 240mm aio cooler.

 

[cucker tarlson]

newegg canada okay ?

 

[sepheronx]

newegg canada okay ?

No, I gotta pay shipping and that adds up quickly so I avoid them.

 

[cucker tarlson]

Corsair RM Series, RM650, 650 Watt, 80+ Gold Certified, Fully Modular Power Supply, Microsoft Modern Standby : Amazon.ca: Electronics

Corsair RM Series, RM650, 650 Watt, 80+ Gold Certified, Fully Modular Power Supply, Microsoft Modern Standby : Amazon.ca: Electronics

www.amazon.ca

 

[sepheronx]

A Corsair h115i 240mm cooler or any good 240mm aio cooler.

Should have mentioned, no AIO. My friend is illiterate when it comes to maintaining PC's and last thing I want to do is get an AIO which may have issues. So fan cooling is ideal.

 

[Athlonite]

You wont enjoy the Alienware Aurora R5 it's cramped and noisy as all hell

 

[xtreemchaos]

change the psu to a seasonic gx750, other wise it looks good.

 

[sepheronx]

Corsair RM Series, RM650, 650 Watt, 80+ Gold Certified, Fully Modular Power Supply, Microsoft Modern Standby : Amazon.ca: Electronics

Corsair RM Series, RM650, 650 Watt, 80+ Gold Certified, Fully Modular Power Supply, Microsoft Modern Standby : Amazon.ca: Electronics

www.amazon.ca

Will 650W be sufficient since I heard the new intels require power plants as is, add in a RX Vega 56 I would figure maybe a nuclear reactor...

You wont enjoy the Alienware Aurora R5 it's cramped and noisy as all hell

It aint for me. I am just taking it, getting a cheap GPU in it, and re-selling it. Just mentioned it as its his payment to me and I know I can get about $600 CAD for it.

 

[cucker tarlson]

Will 650W be sufficient since I heard the new intels require power plants as is, add in a RX Vega 56 I would figure maybe a nuclear reactor...

yes

board

Amazon.ca

 

[sepheronx]

yes

board

Amazon.ca

OK, I selected that one.

 

[cucker tarlson]

ssd

Amazon.ca

if you want pretty good nand,phison e12 and an actual heatsink instead of fancy trash

 

[Hyderz]

if you want basic air cooler, can do away from hyper 212 evo (180w) i wont try oc with this cooler
if you want something more powerful can get noctua's or be quiet brands

 

[sepheronx]

ssd

Amazon.ca

cant, thats beyond budget as I am paying for the SSD and RAM. Since all I am getting is his older computer, paying for parts and putting it together I am not gonna go over my agreed amount. I'll go over it with him and see if he will pay the difference.

Edit: I may just pay the $10 difference anyway. If it is that much better.

if you want basic air cooler, can do away from hyper 212 evo (180w) i wont try oc with this cooler
if you want something more powerful can get noctua's or be quiet brands

Any specific BeQuiet you suggest?

I should have mentioned that Memory Express allows price matching. Here is their listings of SSD's

SSD / Hard Drives at Memory Express - Memory Express Inc.

www.memoryexpress.com

Thanks for the help so far guys.

 

[cucker tarlson]

Edit: I may just pay the $10 difference anyway. If it is that much better.

well,it's worth 10 bucks more for sure.

 

[tabascosauz]

Any specific BeQuiet you suggest?

I should have mentioned that Memory Express allows price matching. Here is their listings of SSD's

Shadow Rock 3, Dark Rock Slim, or Dark Rock 4 Pro. I'd probably stay away from the regular Dark Rock 4 if you want to use any RAM taller than Corsair LPX. DRP4 fits Trident Z almost perfectly.

The Silent Wings 120mm on the Dark Rocks (also 135mm on DRP4) are hands down the quietest fans even at 100% speed. Tradeoff is that Noctua usually takes the performance crown slightly in each segment.

The new STIM purportedly works wonders for the 10600K/10700K/10900K as they seem to run quite cool in comparison to their power draw. I'd still go for at least a Dark Rock Slim.

For the best value, look for an Arctic E34. However, things have gotten real expensive as of late on amazon.ca.

 

[cucker tarlson]

arctic liquid freezer available in CN ?

 

[Assimilator]

What is his intended usage? He would save a LOT of money by going for AMD over Intel, as well as having a cooler and quieter system. Plus the AMD CPU I'd suggest (3600) comes with a good quality stock cooler.

For example, 3600 is $290, a B450 board with WiFi is $140. That's $430 against the $814 for the Intel CPU + board you have listed, which is a saving of $384.

If he needs 8 cores and 16 threads, the 3800X is $475 which is still cheaper than the Intel chip, and it can still be paired with a cheap-ish B450 board.

If he is really adamant on Intel, rather go for the i5-10600K over the i7-10700K - the two extra cores are not likely to make much of a difference. And not sure why you would be going for a Z490 (overclocking) board if he isn't going to be using its features, the Asus Prime H470-PLUS/CSM is only $163.

arctic liquid freezer available in CN ?

He doesn't want water cooling as per post #8.

 

[sepheronx]

It is indeed mostly gaming. I was aiming at Intel currently simply because Its close to same price (x570 motherboards all seem to be sold out for something half decent and hard to come by), with the Intel being slightly better at gaming. I was also thinking that it would be cheaper to use AMD just because it comes with a stock cooler.

As for the 8 cores / 16 threads it is mostly because since the new consoles will be using 8c/16t was trying to "future proof" as best as I can without going the extreme (12 core / 24 threads or 10 core / 20 threads).

Shadow Rock 3, Dark Rock Slim, or Dark Rock 4 Pro. I'd probably stay away from the regular Dark Rock 4 if you want to use any RAM taller than Corsair LPX. DRP4 fits Trident Z almost perfectly.

The Silent Wings 120mm on the Dark Rocks (also 135mm on DRP4) are hands down the quietest fans even at 100% speed. Tradeoff is that Noctua usually takes the performance crown slightly in each segment.

The new STIM purportedly works wonders for the 10600K/10700K/10900K as they seem to run quite cool in comparison to their power draw. I'd still go for at least a Dark Rock Slim.

For the best value, look for an Arctic E34. However, things have gotten real expensive as of late on amazon.ca.

Heck, even Memory Express is jacking up prices. If I can get free shipping I would be looking at Canada Computers.

 

[dgianstefani]

Noctua U12A - quiet and cool.
Mobo I would go for the MSI Unify, but that's a little more expensive.

+1 on the Intel 10th gen chips running cooler than their power draw would otherwise suggest (as long as you have cooling capacity), I've been playing around with a couple of 10900k to find a good bin and am pleasantly surprised I don't even need water to cool them at all core 5.2.

 

[cucker tarlson]

As for the 8 cores / 16 threads it is mostly because since the new consoles will be using 8c/16t was trying to "future proof" as best as I can without going the extreme

silly
consoles will be using 8/16 ryzen at 3.5-3.9ghz
a 10400f would smash that.

I suggest 10700f or 10600kf

 

[sepheronx]

silly
consoles will be using 8/16 ryzen at 3.5-3.9ghz
a 10400f would smash that.

I suggest 10700f or 10600kf

Sticking with either 10700k or 3700x. Simply as I said, the cores and threads. 10400 won't smash that as soon as something becomes demanding in multithreaded use, it will get smashed itself.

And the KF series don't seem to be available here, just the K models. Otherwise I would have used the ones without GPU's built in to save about $50.

I truly think the upcoming consoles will throw a wrench in the way for anything less than 8/16 just because games will be optimized for that. 10400K is good and all, but I don't believe for anything in near future.

 

[cucker tarlson]

Sticking with either 10700k or 3700x. Simply as I said, the cores and threads. 10400 won't smash that as soon as something becomes demanding in multithreaded use, it will get smashed itself.

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