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Intel "Bay Trail" Platform and "Valleyview" Atom SoC Detailed

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Intel's next-generation Atom processor platform, codenamed "Bay Trail" doesn't arrive before 2014, but that's not enough to stop the company from talking at great lengths about it. A new presentation intended for Intel's pals in the PC industry was leaked on German tech-forum 3DCenter.org, and reveals quite a bit more about the platform than the Bay Trail-T we already know about.

The first two slides (below) detail key scoring points of the platform over its predecessor, the "Cedar Trail." These include a true single-chip SoC (with complete integration of the chipset into the processor die), being built on the 22 nm Tri-gate transistor fab process, up to four x86-64 cores with out-of-order execution capabilities, 7th generation Intel graphics that features DirectX 11 and supports resolutions as high as 2560 x 1600 pixels, a native USB 3.0 controller, and support for DDR3L memory, that allows device makers to do away with DIMM/SO-DIMM modules to conserve board foot-print, using smaller, space-optimized DRAM chips on the main PCB.



In the third slide, Intel goes into details about the building blocks of the Valleyview SoC, particularly its CPU component. The SoC features up to four 64-bit x86 cores, which support out-of-order execution, the lack of which is a key shortfall of current Atom chips. The introduction of out-of-order execution lends Valleyview's CPU cores a 50~100 percent performance improvement over its previous generation. The cores also feature "Burst," a variation of Turbo Boost that enables higher-clocks in short bursts, rather than throughout high processing loads.

The next key component of the SoC is the 7th generation Intel HD graphics core, which is touted to feature a 300 percent performance improvement over previous-generation, support for the DirectX 11 API, and two TMDS links, supporting display resolutions as high as 2560 x 1600 pixels. Given the pace at which tablet display resolutions are growing, 1600p and 1440p could become commonplace by 2014, and Intel is gearing up for that.



The Bay Trail platform will be classified into three important variations based on target devices, Bay Trail-T for tablets, Bay Trail-M for sub-notebooks, and Bay Trail-D for low-cost desktops, nettops, and set-top boxes. Since tablets are the most space-constrained of the three, Valleyview-T SoC features the smallest package of the lot, measuring 17 x 17 mm, with a target TDP under 3W. To achieve that, it cuts down on pin-count by getting rid of interfaces tablets don't generally feature, such as additional PCIe interfaces, and too many USB ports, while squeezing in room for low-bandwidth low- pin-count interfaces such as SDIO, I2S, HSUART. USB 3.0 OTG finds room.

The Bay Trail-M and Bay Trail-D are nearly identical, in featuring a bigger 27 x 25 mm package size, feature-set, support for PC-centric interfaces such as PCI-Express and SATA. The two only differ with Bay Trail-M featuring a TDP target under 6.5W, and Bay Trail-D keeping things relaxed at under 12W. The next slide compares Bay Trail-D/M platforms to their predecessors, the Cedar Trail-D/M.



The last in the slide deck details launch-schedule of Intel's Bay Trail series of platforms. According to it, pre-ES development of the chips will be complete in this quarter for internal testing by Intel, engineering samples fit to be shared by industry partners will be ready by June-August (Q2-Q3), feedback collected will go into making qualification samples (QS) by Q4-2013, and the products will begin rolling out in the first quarter of 2014.



Source: 3DCenter.org Forums
 

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No mention of Thunderbolt. I'm thinking Intel doesn't really care about seeing Thunderbolt succeed or else it would be standard by 2014. It's looking more and more like it was a one-off thing for Apple.

I'm still not convinced Atom isn't a POS. They're feeling the ARM pinch so they are making noise about it.
 
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I like the sounds of this new Atom, I hope they are telling the truth about the graphics improvements would be nice. Glad to see it's all on one chip.

I have a AMD C-70 APU and that thing can hardly do anything it's always at 100%
 
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No mention of Thunderbolt. I'm thinking Intel doesn't really care about seeing Thunderbolt succeed or else it would be standard by 2014. It's looking more and more like it was a one-off thing for Apple.

I'm still not convinced Atom isn't a POS. They're feeling the ARM pinch so they are making noise about it.
Thunderbolt is using a separate chip, it's not going to be integrated on a chipset by 2014 and it'll most likely never turn up on Atom platforms as it's way too power hungry.
 
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Quad core Atoms with HT would be nice. Also good to see Intel finally getting a proper GPU part. First few generations of Atom's were all rubbish because they all used a spin-of of the GMA950 chip.
 
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Is Intel going to take Atom serious this time around?

I am one off the many misfortunate owners off a N2600 based system. Intel have completely let us down, ending up with system without driver support and never being able to make the machines completely stable. As a former Intel fanboy, this have been a severe let down. I will not those a Intel netbook or tablet in the near future. :ohwell:

A new generation Atoms bring the natural question - will Intel take their customers seriuos this time around?
 
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Will this be the first hardware implementation of an Anti-Virus or is ti just a PR gimmick?
Intel bought McAfee not long ago.

I wonder how will it work out...
 
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LOL at intel trying to dwarf the competition with products over a year away
and a bigger LOL is if a year later intel comes up with a product inferior to amds jaguar
 
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I am one off the many misfortunate owners off a N2600 based system. Intel have completely let us down, ending up with system without driver support and never being able to make the machines completely stable. As a former Intel fanboy, this have been a severe let down. I will not those a Intel netbook or tablet in the near future. :ohwell:

A new generation Atoms bring the natural question - will Intel take their customers seriuos this time around?
I had the first generation Atom, the N270. While it wasn't a complete letdown, the GPU was a bit rubbish. I skipped N2600 because it was essentially the same thing. But the AMD E-450 that i have now and will probably have for quite some time is a completelly different beast.
While CPU is faster, the GPU makes all the difference. Video transcoding, accelerated web, games etc. It makes overall experience much better while maintaining low power consumption.
 

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Where do the slides say that this supports out of order execution?
 

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Where do the slides say that this supports out of order execution?
Slide 2, bottom right. "...based on OOO architecture."

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LOL at intel trying to dwarf the competition with products over a year away
and a bigger LOL is if a year later intel comes up with a product inferior to amds jaguar
I guess you missed ARM's Cortex A5* announcement? I think it's a good thing that we're seeing official comments on upcoming releases, even if they're so high-level they're effectively meaningless. This is pretty solid evidence that Intel will be very competitive in the ultramobile space next year. They already have performance on par with Krait, with some seriously impressive power numbers, especially for idle states where your device spends the vast majority of its time. With OOO execution and 22nm lithography, we're going to see a significant simultaneous performance increase and power reduction, which is always a glorious thing, especially in modern smartphones.
 

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Slide 2, bottom right. "...based on OOO architecture."
Thanks, that must mean "Out Of Order" architecture then. That looked like triple zero to me, lol. :laugh:
 
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I love these Atom's, I use them all the time to build hardware firewalls, NAS boxes etc.
Outside of that I feel their performance is a little too behind the times to really make good use, however it's nice to see Intel doing a bit of their own chasing in the ultra low power consumption market.

I also recently used a dual core Atom passively cooled to power an in car navigation and entertainment system, worked great.
 

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I love these Atom's, I use them all the time to build hardware firewalls, NAS boxes etc.
Outside of that I feel their performance is a little too behind the times to really make good use, however it's nice to see Intel doing a bit of their own chasing in the ultra low power consumption market.

I also recently used a dual core Atom passively cooled to power an in car navigation and entertainment system, worked great.
Aye, it feels like a lot of people are expecting too much out of them.
 

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I love these Atom's, I use them all the time to build hardware firewalls, NAS boxes etc.
That's interesting. I'm also into running hardware firewalls made out of PC hardware, so which one are you running? I use IPCop: Linux-based, secure and powerful and totally free of course. :cool:
 
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I'm using PFSense and FreeNAS, only two I have actually used so far but I have little to no complaints.