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Intel Core i5-11400F

Tsukiyomi91 said:
but it shows you that the 11400F runs cooler & uses much less power (on stock) than a 4790K that runs at a higher boost clock (after tweaking & OCing) all the while gives you better 1% and 0.1% lows. I rather have the extra cores, threads and IPC gains. Manual OCing is dead anyways.
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But if one already has a tuned 4790K, is shelling out $300US+ on a new platform worth it for those gains? Perhaps for some, but obv. not for everyone.
 
Then again, you have to OC the 4790K for it to give similar if not slightly better performance over the 11400F. Is it worth the hassle? I don't think so. And I'm pretty sure you can get both the 11400F & a decent B560 board for the same money as a 4790K at launch prices, not even counting on a good Z97 board.
 
I'm looking to get a 11400f and was wondering if this mobo has good VRM and would allow me to use it with unlimited power https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B560M-AORUS-ELITE-rev-10#kf

I'll also be using a 212 EVO. My other choices would be https://www.asus.com/Motherboards-Components/Motherboards/All-series/TUF-GAMING-B560M-PLUS/ or https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B560M-AORUS-PRO-rev-10/na#na

Which one would be best for the long run ? Ideally I'd want this build to last me 3-5 years and the Asus mobo/aorus pro are like 10 dollars more expensive than the aorus elite in my region.
 
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spacejam said:
I'm looking to get a 11400f and was wondering if this mobo has good VRM and would allow me to use it with unlimited power https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B560M-AORUS-ELITE-rev-10#kf

I'll also be using a 212 EVO. My other choices would be https://www.asus.com/Motherboards-Components/Motherboards/All-series/TUF-GAMING-B560M-PLUS/ or https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B560M-AORUS-PRO-rev-10/na#na

Which one would be best for the long run ? Ideally I'd want this build to last me 3-5 years and the Asus mobo/aorus pro are like 10 dollars more expensive than the aorus elite in my region.
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B560 reviews are really thin on the ground so far. Determining how robust VRMs are requires testing; specs don't always tell the whole story. But without any data to go by...

The ASUS -A series boards are generally pretty consistent, and MSI's PRO series has been punching above its weight lately, so those might be something to look at. Otherwise, you're going to either need to take a leap of faith with a board you like or wait for reviews.
 
I feel like I overpaid for my new system: $330 for an i9-10900KF. After analyzing this review, I could have saved ~$170 and gone with an i5-11400... This review shows how close the performance is for most practical purposes. I’m just a few days outside return period on the i9, which I got before any 11 series processors were in stock. Kind of sad.

P.S.: @W1zzard : could we please get World of Warcraft scores back? I know it’s not the most demanding game out there, but it still has a huge player base, and getting CPU and GPU point of reference scores for it would be useful. It’s still a game that uses CPU quite a bit. No one has a comparison of the latest generations of processors for WoW.
 
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Hi all, I need an advice regarding I5-11400f. Recently decided to build a fresh system, since my I5-6500 8gb ddr3 is starting to show it's age. About a month ago I bought the I5-10400f for 130eur, however I was not expecting to see so many good discounts on various, newly-released pc components so soon, including the 11th gen I5. So, pulled the trigger recently and got a crucial ddr4 16gb 3600mhz kit for 65eur, an Asus strix B560-G for 120e and the I5-11400f for 126eur. After much time spent on various forums and reviews I am still undecided which cpu to keep. It seems that 10th gen is a lot more polished generation, giving better power efficiency and somewhat better stability (talking about those bios bugs with 11th gen). However 11th gen looks better with productivity tasks. My plan is to use the PC without any major upgrades for at least 5 upcoming years, it will be mainly used for light productivity and sometimes gaming (with gtx 1070, at 1080p 144hz), maybe some more intense workloads in the future as well. Which cpu should I keep? All opinions and advices are very welcome. Thank you for reading and thanks in advance! :)
P.S. Sorry for mediocre english :p
 
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RandallFlagg said:
I have a Z490 Prime with a 10850K now, it's nearly the same VRM design (8-phase) and I'll just say VRM is not an issue and is unlikely to be a problem with an 11400F.

The 11400F can pull upwards of 250W in synthetic stress tests though, and you can't cool that with anything less than a top line 360mm AIO and really would need custom loop if it is sustained.

What I mean is, unlocking the 11400/F is not like the 10400 where you could just do it with the stock cooler no issues.

I think what is best, rather than 100% unlocking power limits, is something along the lines as what I've done below on a 10850K.

Unlimited power boost for short duration
Over a 32 second period of time, the max average power draw is 190W :

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So I had the 10850K before I got a 240MM AIO, using a cheap $20-$30 air cooler (Thermaltake Contac Silent 12, which is rated for 150W and seems to do a bit better than that).

It was fine with the *turbo boost power max set at 160W and the time window at 28s.*

That's basically what I'd suggest for an 11400F, though you'd want to tweak it for your specific environment. That will not stress the B560 prime's VRM, and the coolers can be had for cheap. And in the weird event that you run something that *would* make it over heat (because it is possible for it to pull 250W) then that power limit with stop it.

You could also go to a nicer air cooler like the Noctua that TPU used, ~$60USD, but I don't think it's necessary to get a top line air cooler like that for the 11400.
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Thanks for this advice! Just finished my build and went from about a 7550 cinebench r23 multi threading score to 10200 by setting a 140W limit. Averaging Temps of 70 degrees during the test so could go higher with the limit but feel pretty content
 
Amox said:
Hi all, I need an advice regarding I5-11400f. Recently decided to build a fresh system, since my I5-6500 8gb ddr3 is starting to show it's age. About a month ago I bought the I5-10400f for 130eur, however I was not expecting to see so many good discounts on various, newly-released pc components so soon, including the 11th gen I5. So, pulled the trigger recently and got a crucial ddr4 16gb 3600mhz kit for 65eur, an Asus strix B560-G for 120e and the I5-11400f for 126eur. After much time spent on various forums and reviews I am still undecided which cpu to keep. It seems that 10th gen is a lot more polished generation, giving better power efficiency and somewhat better stability (talking about those bios bugs with 11th gen). However 11th gen looks better with productivity tasks. My plan is to use the PC without any major upgrades for at least 5 upcoming years, it will be mainly used for light productivity and sometimes gaming (with gtx 1070, at 1080p 144hz), maybe some more intense workloads in the future as well. Which cpu should I keep? All opinions and advices are very welcome. Thank you for reading and thanks in advance! :)
P.S. Sorry for mediocre english :p
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I would hands down keep the 11400F. Single core and low thread count performance counts the most in virtually every normal use case. Just look at how good the 11400F performs in web browsing, it just obliterates even the top models from the last gen Zen 2 / Intel 10th Gen. And against a 10400, it's like a 40%+ improvement.

For whatever reason folks on forums like this deprecate the importance of that, but the 'feel' and 'user experience' you get in normal usage is reflected in those web tests. Zen 3 and Rocket Lake are both a different level vs Zen 2 / Intel Gen 10 in that regard, and the same can be said of Tiger Lake. No way would I go for a 10400 right now to save $30 unless I was just dirt poor, in which case probably shouldn't be buying a new PC at all.
 
RandallFlagg said:
I would hands down keep the 11400F. Single core and low thread count performance counts the most in virtually every normal use case. Just look at how good the 11400F performs in web browsing, it just obliterates even the top models from the last gen Zen 2 / Intel 10th Gen. And against a 10400, it's like a 40%+ improvement.

For whatever reason folks on forums like this deprecate the importance of that, but the 'feel' and 'user experience' you get in normal usage is reflected in those web tests. Zen 3 and Rocket Lake are both a different level vs Zen 2 / Intel Gen 10 in that regard, and the same can be said of Tiger Lake. No way would I go for a 10400 right now to save $30 unless I was just dirt poor, in which case probably shouldn't be buying a new PC at all.
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Thanks for your input! After digging around a few days, I have finally decided to go with 11th gen. There are simply very few benefits when sticking to 10th gen (only marginally better economy) AND for 11th I5-11400f I will have a perfect mobo, good ram's, already have good case with decent airflow and a hyper212 evo. Not to mention a lower cpu price and good overall performance uplift. I am very happy with my decision and cannot wait to finish this PC upgrade. :)
P.S. I also plan on getting an Rm550x and 1tb nvme ssd. Those two won't hurt for sure. :P
 
Just wanted to drop in to say I have my 11400 up and running, thanks again for everybody’s input. In the end I decided to pair it with a MSI Z590 A Pro instead of the budget B560 I was looking at. Got my PCI soundcard working with an adapter. Haven’t been able to determine if avx512 is making a big difference, but definitely see power draw and temperatures (hitting 76C, while cinabench23 never went above 65C) increase when I ran some benchmarks with software that supports avx512.
 
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RandallFlagg said:
Just to add, you can adjust PL1/PL2 and Tau in real time without even going into BIOS using Intel's XTU (Extreme Tuning Utility). I used this to adjust my power levels to what my old air cooler can handle until my AIO arrives.

So you can really tune any Intel rig to whatever your cooler can handle, whatever temperatures you're comfortable getting to, and use case specific things like high turbo for short durations by adjusting multiplier (on K-series chips), tau, and PL1/PL2.

What really makes this cool is being able to do it without a reboot. Tweak, test, tweak again, test, repeat.


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Hi, how did you do that?

When I open my Intel XTU I get everything locked.

I have a i5 11400f and asrock 560 hdv
 
The problem is that something goes down during the aida64 test after max 2 min, which is the cpu (it doesn't freeze, not even bsod) the test stops and the aida64 turns completely red, back to 65 watts then the test is100% stable but for a lower score than It ca can be in cb r23, which I have just under 10000 in multicore (higher in the video) as it does not boost all the way up to 4,200mhz as the bus speed is not quite 100.

How can I get it to run completely stable with tdp, Long Duration Power Limit of 125 watts?


 
what is dual dau boost,dual tau boost ?
 
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