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Intel Readies the Core i9 Brand Extension

cdawall

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I can see the reason for sticking to quad core in mainstream segment. But for X299? Oh for Fu's sake.

I would imagine it spells the end of 115x personally. Also remember Intel is dumping big xeons onto lga3647.

115x for pentium/celery/i3/i5
20xx for i7/i9
3647 for big xeon
 

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I am very much interested on what quality games out there can use 10 or 12 physical cores??
Are there any?? Any test that have been made with this??
is it not a workstation CPU to rival Threadripper?
 
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This important story broke last Friday afternoon, May 12th.

What does TPU do all weekend? :ohwell:


Drink Beer? :toast: :roll:
 

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No mention of tdp hmmn, sounds ok not great ,so many boards and options now.
This sounds like a big fail , bar the top two the others are no more appealing then an i7 77ook in many respects yet will have a big markup, i can't see them doing well unless they rejig their entire price list for consumers, that's not going to happen.
I accept the upgrade later route via a shit early chip but how many actually do that, in all honesty most enthusiasts swap whole platforms each time as do average joes so i can't see the point in so many shit( in the context of the motherboards available features not being used) low end chips for a very pricey platform.
 
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Could we perhaps wait for the official (press) releases before sharpening the pitchforks?
QRA. Pitchforks must be sharp at all times.


Eh, who cares about LGA2066? You want to beat AMD, you need something for the mainstream.

However, it's not unexpected intel's first reaction is a hasty one. I'm not expecting a proper answer to Ryzen till 2018 at the earliest.
AMD have yet to compete with the Pentium G4560

Just barely in non-gaming situations. I imagine it will all even out when you consider 12 core with higher IPC vs 16 core CPU. I wouldn't count on Intel clock speed advantage all that much since i7 6950X@4.3GHz reaches blistering 90c and 240W power draw under FP workloads, it'd be interesting to see how people will cool i9-7920X that's clocked any higher than 4.4-4.5GHz (considering i7 7700k hits 4.5-4.6GHz with same voltages and power draw it takes i7 5775c to hit 4.2-4.3GHz) under proper workloads.
Intel does better than AMD on the gaming stuff :D

None of the multi-CCX chips actually keep up with the i5k or i7k chips... I would wager this problem will persist with the R9 chips will have the same problems.

The i7x and Xeon chips have shown no such weakness aside from the clock scaling when going through the 4-16 core range, maybe the very large chips might have noticeable latency problems in gaming performance, but none of the chips a gamer would buy do. On the other hand, the CCX issue affects the entire AMD gaming lineup outside of the budget sector, and if the IMC problems aren't fixed soon, they are going to be in deep doo-doo.
 
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From Intel insider the new Core i9 Extreme all featuring Intel AVX-512 support.

Due Intel AVX-512 enable now we've got some miracle choice.

+Intel AVX-512 can be 2X AVX/AVX2/AES speed compare to Ryzen 3,5,7,threadripper,naples and all Intel older processors on markets.
+Each core increase L2 cache from 256KB to 1024KB that 4 times from skylake/kabelake 1151 and all predecessor.
+Each core has 1.375MB L3
+Intel Turbo Boost 3.0

Consider Core i9 7920X 3.5GHz 12 Core 24 Thread 16.5MB L3 160watt TDP
12 x 64KB L1 cache 12 x 1024KB L2 12 x 1375KB L3 with AVX-512 support may overkill 16/32 Ryzen part easily.

intel-avx-512.jpg
 

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From Intel insider the new Core i9 Extreme all featuring Intel AVX-512 support.

Due Intel AVX-512 enable now we've got some miracle choice.

+Intel AVX-512 can be 2X AVX/AVX2/AES speed compare to Ryzen 3,5,7,threadripper,naples and all Intel older processors on markets.
+Each core increase L2 cache from 256KB to 1024KB that 4 times from skylake/kabelake 1151 and all predecessor.
+Each core has 1.375MB L3
+Intel Turbo Boost 3.0

Consider Core i9 7920X 3.5GHz 12 Core 24 Thread 16.5MB L3 160watt TDP
12 x 64KB L1 cache 12 x 1024KB L2 12 x 1375KB L3 with AVX-512 support may overkill 16/32 Ryzen part easily.

View attachment 88057
An "up to 2x faster" for a code path executed maybe 5% of the time is hardly anything to get excited about. It's a gain (once software actually starts using the new extensions), but not anything groundbreaking.
 
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+Each core increase L2 cache from 256KB to 1024KB that 4 times from skylake/kabelake 1151 and all predecessor.
+Each core has 1.375MB L3
+Intel Turbo Boost 3.0
These don't actually mean anything unless they make some miracle jump in performance
 
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