Intel X6 i5-9600KF based system (5.00Ghz project)

[oxrufiioxo]

Again, ignorance abounds with you, you just can't shake it, can you?

Yo, @storm-chaser just so its 100% clear this is what he is saying

This is what you're buying

System Builder

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This is what you could have gotten for less money

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There's really no scenario I can think of that a 9700k isn't better.

 

[dgianstefani]

Big numbers on the box = good relative performance apparently.

 

[storm-chaser]

The Cryoig H7 is rated at 140W TDP and out performs your cooler which is rated 250W TDP

Do you not realize TDP numbers mean nothing if the cooler isn't designed to dissipate that heat properly.

Do you think I should go back to the stock cooler? Since this isn't a high-performance cooler, it obviously won't cool my high-performance Core I5

 

[EarthDog]

Do you or do you not consider a cooler with 8 heat pipes rated at 250W TDP "high performance"?

On paper, an air cooler capable of managing 250W of heat is impressive and high performance. However, reviewS show that it really doesn't do that well at all (and not even under 250W loads). For instance, all reviews show the D-15 mentioned earlier performing a lot better (a few/several C), yet it, with dual towers and six heatpipes is rated at 220W. It loses out to others rated to remove a lot less heat. Again, you have to know how these are rated at what delta, or look at reviews to see how they really work. It's a neat cooler, but it will be a crapshoot if it can cool your chip at 5 GHz (talking keeping it at/under 90C during stress testing). It will do well enough outside of there and allow some overclocking surely... it will likely fall short of your goal is all (and terribly overpriced).

 

[storm-chaser]

Yo, @storm-chaser just so its 100% clear this is what he is saying

This is what you're buying

System Builder

pcpartpicker.com

This is what you could have gotten for less money

System Builder

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There's really no scenario I can think of that a 9700k isn't better.

I guess that's two of you posting in ignorance now, is this what I can expect from you going forward?

Did I at any point in time, state this build was purely economical? LOL

 

[dgianstefani]

Do you think I should go back to the stock cooler? Since this isn't a high-performance cooler, it obviously won't cool my high-performance Core I5

Remember guys, the only two options here are the Intel stock cooler and a $120 "250w" MSI piece of junk. There's literally nothing else on the market.

 

[eidairaman1]

Its a Project build, let it be.

Hey @storm-chaser check this out, this will give you an average idea on cooler performance.

Corsair A500 Dual Fan CPU Cooler Review

Corsair's A500 dual-fan CPU cooler is a monster in terms of size, with an appealing design and features that set it apart. We found installation to be remarkably easy as well, but performance could be better. The review also goes into detail about why we had to file down the heat pipes on the A500.

www.techpowerup.com

 

[storm-chaser]

There's really no scenario I can think of that a 9700k isn't better.

Remember guys, the only two options here are the Intel stock cooler and a $120 "250w" MSI piece of junk. There's literally nothing else on the market.

You both need a reality check. Here you go.

The hex-core i5-9600K is third in Intel’s line-up of 9th generation Coffee Lake CPUs. It has a TDP of 95W and requires an aftermarket cooler (such as the $20 GAMMAXX 400). The 9600K was designed to be overclocked. Once this is enabled in the BIOS (requires a Z-series motherbaord), the 9600K runs 10% faster. In terms of performance, the i5-9600K is almost unbeatable for desktop users and it has sufficient multi-core performance to handle all but the most demanding workstation tasks. For multimedia producers the Ryzen 3000 series offers great 64-core performance at a very competitive price. For example the overclocked Ryzen 3600 is approximately 13% worse for gaming, desktop and normal consumer workloads but it is 27% faster for 64-core processing. At stock clocks the i5-9600K is around 8% slower than Intel’s flagship i9-9900K but when both are overclocked, the 9600K closes the gaming gap to within two or three percent. Considering that the 9900K is the fastest gaming processor available, and almost twice the price of the 9600K, this is no small feat. The i5-9600K is aimed squarely at gamers who are not willing to compromise on performance but don't want to pay more than they need to.

Your welcome.

 

[dgianstefani]

It's fine to have a project build, as long as you don't try to justify it as having good part choices.

Gaming - 6c6t, 2020, pick one.

What do you mean? The build clearly has great aesthetics!

 

[ERazer]

I came for pc pron pics came out disappointed

 

[cucker tarlson]

You guys are going to love this...

Depending on my results with the first CPU, perhaps I will go ahead and buy like 5 more in hopes of finding a unicorn.



Right, I knew going in I was sacrificing performance for looks. That being said, if I cannot achieve 5Ghz, do you think an H7 will help me reach that goal? What other air coolers would you recommend for 5Ghz given my CPU choice?

I have my heart set on air cooling, even though I can fit a 360mm rad in this case.

Depending on how my first CPU performs, perhaps I should buy like 5 or 6 more in hopes of finding a unicorn... worth it? Essentially, they are so cheap you might as well do your own binning...

why would you do that when you can buy binned ?

 

[Durvelle27]

This is all i will say and than I'm done

The rig itself is fine but the cooling options should have been better looked into especially the case which is going to be a huge cooling factor

 

[cucker tarlson]

This is all i will say and than I'm done

The rig itself is fine but the cooling options should have been better looked into especially the case which is going to be a huge cooling factor

furthermore,why would you put together a rig like that and build it inside an eyersore.

get a lancool 2 dude.for 90 dollars this case is exceptional.

 

[storm-chaser]

why would you do that when you can buy binned ?

No 9600ks processors are listed at siliconlottery.com

 

[cucker tarlson]

No 9600ks processors are listed at siliconlottery.com

well it's not a bad idea to buy a cpu used,many ppl list their overclocks.it's not a 100% legit,but chances are good.

I don't think I ever bought a cpu new.

celeron 400mhz
duron 700mhz
athlon 900mhz
athlon xp 1800+
core 2 e6320
core 2 quad q6600
i5 2500k - this one was new
i5 3570k
i7 4790k
i7 5775c

 

[storm-chaser]

It's fine to have a project build, as long as you don't try to justify it as having good part choices.

The parts are actually very good choices for my usage scenario. How many times are we going to have to go over this before you get it through your skull?

well it's not a bad idea to buy a cpu used,many ppl list their overclocks.it's not a 100% legit,but chances are good.

Good call. Depending on how well my new 9600kf performs, I might as well keep an eye out for deals on eBay, but for the time being not much in the way of used 9600k on there at the moment.

 

[storm-chaser]

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furthermore,why would you put together a rig like that and build it inside an eyersore.

get a lancool 2 dude.for 90 dollars this case is exceptional.

In case you didn't know, the case (It's a coolermaster Sileo 500) has sound-absorbing panels, keeping it pretty quiet for the most part. So it's a good call for my specifications.

I had plenty of money to spend on a new case, but to be honest, I prefer the business look over gaming systems. Nowadays, most gaming cases seem bloated, overweight or from an alien planet with 20 lb of glass hanging on each side. Another reason I avoided one of the bigger 140mm air coolers is because of the height. Has to fit under the hood, obviously.

Definitely getting my money's worth out of the case and PSU.

 

[cucker tarlson]

all 960

The parts are actually very good choices for my usage scenario. How many times are we going to have to go over this before you get it through your skull?


Good call. Depending on how well my new 9600kf performs, I might as well keep an eye out for deals on eBay, but for the time being not much in the way of used 9600k on there at the moment.

all 9600k's should hit 5ghz,it's a matter of voltage they need.
the cooler will do fine,it's just gonna be loud since you'll need the fans to run near max to cool the cpu
I don't think the cooler is really that nice looking,you can buy a better and prettier one for sure,but it goes with the card nicely.

 

[moproblems99]

Seriously guys, no matter how reasonable and/or logical your suggestions are, it is very clear OP has made his choice. Whether the choices are good - aesthetics in a closed case - or $120 coolers that get outperformed by $60 coolers, or ram that could have been bought cheaper, or Ssds that could have been bought with twice the capacity for same performance, no suggestion is going to be taken in good faith anymore.

I would suggest to just move along and not contribute to the toxicity. The performance of this PC will not affect you from your house.

 

[cucker tarlson]

g

In case you didn't know, the case (It's a coolermaster Sileo 500) has sound-absorbing panels, keeping it pretty quiet for the most part. So it's a good call for my specifications.

I had plenty of money to spend on a new case, but to be honest, I prefer the business look over gaming systems. Nowadays, most gaming cases seem bloated, overweight or from an alien planet with 20 lb of glass hanging on each side. Another reason I avoided one of the bigger 140mm air coolers is because of the height. Has to fit under the hood, obviously.

Definitely getting my money's worth out of the case and PSU.

a quiet case is one that has enouigh airflow for the components not to ramp up the fan speed.
a case that has dampening material but builds up heat is not quiet.

 

[bogmali]

At this point OP you're replying and arguing to peeps that don't understand that its your build and your money. I suggest put them on ignore otherwise I will close it before it becomes an eyesore.

 

[storm-chaser]

well it's not a bad idea to buy a cpu used,many ppl list their overclocks.it's not a 100% legit,but chances are good.

I don't think I ever bought a cpu new.

celeron 400mhz
duron 700mhz
athlon 900mhz
athlon xp 1800+
core 2 e6320
core 2 quad q6600
i5 2500k - this one was new
i5 3570k
i7 4790k
i7 5775c

I've owned well over 30+ CPUs and yes I'm in the same boat - I nearly always buy used.

The only 4 CPU's I've purchased new:

AMD K6-3 450Mhz with 3D now!
AMD Athlon XP 3000+ 2.1Ghz (Barton Core, 2.1Ghz, early 400Mhz FSB variant)
AMD Phenom II 970 (Zosma Core) unlocked to X6 Thuban
Intel i5 - 9600kf (current project)

Matter of fact, I bought this used i7 CPU this morning for my Lenovo laptop restoration, a T510 Thinkpad.

http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Core_i7/Intel-Core%20i7%20Mobile%20I7-640M%20CP80617004152AE.html

Sure it's no quad-core system, but it will turbo up to approximately 3.5Ghz.

And you know me, I'm all about that per-core performance

 

[storm-chaser]

At this point OP you're replying and arguing to peeps that don't understand that its your build and your money. I suggest put them on ignore otherwise I will close it before it becomes an eyesore.

Okay, it's all business from here on out. I would appreciate if everyone can take this lead. The parts have already been purchased and it will be built to my specifications.

 

[cucker tarlson]

And you know me, I'm all about that per-core performance

for a home/gaming rig,it's what you're gonna feel more than having SMT when you already have a six core.

post pics and oc results soon

and 1% bf5 results so that haters can keep on hating.

btw you've got an rx580 in there,that cpu is way overkill anyway.

@bogmali why aren't double posts merged anymore ? it was such a useful feature.

 

[storm-chaser]

all 960

all 9600k's should hit 5ghz,it's a matter of voltage they need.
the cooler will do fine,it's just gonna be loud since you'll need the fans to run near max to cool the cpu
I don't think the cooler is really that nice looking,you can buy a better and prettier one for sure,but it goes with the card nicely.

Not arguing here, just providing relevant information for tarlson:

Yeah, I prefer the look of the Core Frozr XL to most of the other air coolers on the market, and since I already had a MSI video card and MSI motherboard, I wanted to follow suit with the CPU cooler - it's a little bit like building numbers matching vehicle. Fair enough?

btw you've got an rx580 in there,that cpu is way overkill anyway

Yeah, as I said the video card was free. So I'm using it. It's not like I game all the time, either. It does, however, have 8GB ram so it's by no means a slouch.