Is there something wrong with my pc?

[FumbDuck]

Hi guys,

I tried to be as transparent as possible with all the pictures. This is my first ever pc and I built it with the help of a very knowledgeable friend.

My CPU is constantly clocking in 4000+mhz, even when I've just booted up my pc. It typically stays at 70 degrees and rarely do I see it hit the low 60s. The hardware itself tends to fluctuate on the loud side. This pc is only a few months old and was working smoothly up until about a month ago when some problems started arising (that I think I've completely fixed, one that I'm currently in the middle of fixing). I just feel like my pc could be running better but I screwed up somewhere.

Here's a link to all my parts:

System Builder

pcpartpicker.com

History of Errors (as best as I can remember)
- Fully built and functional in early Summer 2020
- I had very minimal (if any from vague memory) issues until I decided to get 2 extra ram sticks
- PC ran with 32gb ram for a few weeks before BSOD errors started appearing, more and more frequently at that
- Booted with a backup file (don't remember when time-wise)
- Still ran into BSOD issues
- [09/05] Uninstalled & reinstalled Windows OS
- [09/09] First BSOD since
- [09/10] Removed two of the RAM sticks so only running 16gb now (testing if the new ram I got could be faulty)
- [09/13] Reseated CPU cause of a Ez Debug CPU Red Light

-[09/15] There haven't been any issues in terms of running games or streaming videos/movies yet.
-[09/16] I hope everyone who has commented since can see/get notifications from edits. Thank you for all the comments and recommendations! I read every single one and the overall consensus I'm getting is to replace the stock cooler, which I have already placed the order for.

 

[xman2007]

Stock cooler? Reseat and reapply thermal paste

 

[FumbDuck]

Stock cooler? Reseat and reapply thermal paste

Yes, stock cooler.

This is a picture of what it looked like before I reseated the CPU, if it's of any help.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/702930757739479061/754840323624271902/image0.jpg

 

[Ruyki]

CPUs should downclock to reduce power consumption when they are under low load.
A good way to check if yours is doing this is the "effective clock" value in hwinfo64.
Most other tools that show you the clock rate will probably show you the "current" clock which may not be indicative of what the CPU is actually doing since modern CPUs change the speed they run at many times per second. You can read more about this here: https://www.hwinfo.com/forum/threads/effective-clock-vs-instant-discrete-clock.5958/
Just for reference, my average effective clock was 245Mhz while writing this post.

If the CPU does not downclock, the temperature will be high even at idle. BIOS settings can cause the CPU to not downlock so check that.

You may (also) have a memory compatibility problem.
Try testing your memory with memtest86. Test both the 16GB and 32GB configuration.

 

[Vayra86]

Perfectly normal temps

Also, see my sig, and that is aimed especially at the first response to your OP.

Stock cooler on a 3600 is just going to run hot. If it throttles heavily, then you need to swap coolers. Reapplying paste won't save you.

 

[xman2007]

Perfectly normal temps

Also, see my sig, and that is aimed especially at the first response to your OP.

Stock cooler on a 3600 is just going to run hot. If it throttles heavily, then you need to swap coolers. Reapplying paste won't save you.

70c idle is not normal

 

[EarthDog]

Perfectly normal temps

Stock cooler doesn't run 60C-70C on idle, come on now!

Reseat that cooler and reapply thermal paste, OP.

 

[Vayra86]

70c idle is not normal

Stock cooler doesn't run 60C-70C on idle, come on now!

Reseat that cooler and reapply thermal paste, OP.

"My CPU is constantly clocking in 4000+mhz, even when I've just booted up my pc."

I'm seeing 1.336V on the GPU z screen. On top of that, OP is saying he can run his stuff with no real issues. I'm not assuming this is idle at all.

I'm also seeing a host of preceding issues. Maybe its just a reseat... but that was done before as well. If the problem started after the last reseat of CPU, then sure... Clean job and paste it is.

 

[theonek]

cpu temps really seems a bit on the higher side, although ryzens in idle are running higher voltage than under load when it is not manually overclocked. Running in win10 uses higher clocks when some background os process is started and in a time cpu downclocks itself when nothing runs on it.

 

[8BitZ80]

Sounds like another instance of the high default voltage issue.

 

[EarthDog]

"My CPU is constantly clocking in 4000+mhz, even when I've just booted up my pc."

I'm seeing 1.336V on the GPU z screen. On top of that, OP is saying he can run his stuff with no real issues. I'm not assuming this is idle at all.

I'm also seeing a host of preceding issues. Maybe its just a reseat... but that was done before as well. If the problem started after the last reseat of CPU, then sure... Clean job and paste it is.

Just because it is clocking up to 4 Ghz doesn't mean it has a heavy load that warrants a 60-70C idle temp. You can clearly see a low 7% load in the image and sitting at 71C.

I think you mean CPUz, yes?

It typically stays at 70 degrees and rarely do I see it hit the low 60s.

Seems like idle....... or a poor way to say under load.

But yeah, the NZXT CAM software and performance monitor both show low/near idle loads and 70C temps....

 

[Vayra86]

Just because it is clocking up to 4 Ghz doesn't mean it has a heavy load that warrants a 60-70C idle temp. You can clearly see a low 7% load in the image.

I think you mean CPUz, yes?

Seems like idle....... or a poor way to say under load.

Yes, CPUz. Still, if it has the voltage there to maintain 4 Ghz, it has voltage not equal to the lowest power state, right?

 

[EarthDog]

Yes, CPUz. Still, if it has the voltage there to maintain 4 Ghz, it has voltage not equal to the lowest power state, right?

Sure, but 70C is way too hot............for idle/near idle loads as the pictures show us.

I can see blips to 60C and such, sure, but if it gets no lower than that on idle like I think the OP is saying, that is clearly a problem.

 

[Vayra86]

Sure, but 70C is way too hot............for idle/near idle loads as the pictures show us.

60-70C and the load isn't 0%, some screens show 7% 7% is a pretty high 'idle' if you ask me, for a 6c12t.
But anyway. Needs more data to really get a definitive answer on that. Regardless, we know the cooler is sub par and we also know 20 bucks gets you a half decent tower with about half the decibels. I'd put two and two together here, if you repaste again, do it with a decent block of metal.

Can agree that its a problem btw, but the solution is almost certainly NOT a repaste of the same piece of shit.

 

[xman2007]

Default bios settings with a 3600 temps should be 45c idle with jumps into the 50s while boost clocks change and background processes use the cpu though this should be momentarily, and if it is constantly 4ghz+ and not lowering the clock speed during idle /low use then op should run optimised defaults in the bios and check voltages

Either way 70c during low operation is still not normal even for the stock cooler, you need to drop that

 

[EarthDog]

60-70C and the load isn't 0%, some screens show 7%
But anyway. Needs more data to really get a definitive answer on that. Regardless, we know the cooler is sub par and we also know 20 bucks gets you a half decent tower with about half the decibels. I'd put two and two together here, if you repaste again, do it with a decent block of metal.

lol, splitting hairs isn't helping... 60-70C is still WAY TOO HOT FOR IDLE!!!!!!! I 'idle' at 4% on my PC... higher with icue running.. that CAM software is running causing the load. 7% load and 60-70C is too high. Period. I didn't say 0%.. I even mentioned 4 and 7% come on man... focus! Coffee?

The cooler may be sub par but it isn't 60-70C Idle sub-par...

Anyway, I'd like to have the OP clarify if that is the lowest temps he sees after the system settles. He said he did some work in his PC so maybe he bumped the cooler? Who knows. A repaste is free and easy and a good place to start. Not to mention updating hte BIOS to the latest version.... making sure he's using the AMD balanced plan so it throttles back at idle... etc.

Many things going on here.

 

[Vayra86]

This is a picture of what it looked like before I reseated the CPU, if it's of any help.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/702930757739479061/754840323624271902/image0.jpg

I just noticed this now.

So you left that grated cheese under there? No wonder its not cooling right then...

 

[xtreemchaos]

yes sounds like a overvoltage issue, have you the latest bios on your motherboard if not download and flash it, those temp are way too high at idle with a stock cooler buddy.

 

[Caring1]

Sounds like another instance of the high default voltage issue.

I have to agree.
I just put one together yesterday a 3600 into an Asus B450 and the idle temp in the Bios was in the 60's (C) and CPU voltage was around 1.45V which is a lot higher than I like it.
I tried undervolting, and changing the TIM and it made little difference.
Changed the stock cooler for an after market tower and it's in the low 50's (C) and CPU Voltage is now at roughly 1.35V.
I'm not impressed by the Temp still and not happy giving it to the person I am building it for if it's going to be running hot.
Asus needs to get their shit together.

 

[EarthDog]

I just put one together yesterday a 3600 into an Asus B450 and the idle temp in the Bios was in the 60's (C) and CPU voltage was around 1.45V which is a lot higher than I like it.

What cooler? Board? Helpful info to know...

That said, BIOS temps are mostly irrelevant. It's pure voltage and clocks without any power savings. You need to base it on windows temps. For example, with a 3900x @ default I sit around 40-45C in the BIOS, but in windows on idle using the AMD balanced plan, I see low 30s.....(this is with a 3x120mm AIO, note. Stock cooler is going to be several C higher than that, but not 60-70C at idle.

 

[FumbDuck]

lol, splitting hairs isn't helping... 60-70C is still WAY TOO HOT FOR IDLE!!!!!!! I 'idle' at 4% on my PC... higher with icue running.. that CAM software is running causing the load. 7% load and 60-70C is too high. Period. I didn't say 0%.. I even mentioned 4 and 7% come on man... focus! Coffee?

The cooler may be sub par but it isn't 60-70C Idle sub-par...

Anyway, I'd like to have the OP clarify if that is the lowest temps he sees after the system settles. He said he did some work in his PC so maybe he bumped the cooler? Who knows. A repaste is free and easy and a good place to start. Not to mention updating hte BIOS to the latest version.... making sure he's using the AMD balanced plan so it throttles back at idle... etc.

Many things going on here.

I've just booted my pc. The only apps I've got open are Chrome and NZXT Cam. The lowest I am seeing it fluctuate to is 54 degrees.

 

[xman2007]

Run hwinfo and observe the average temp at idle listing the lowest and highest doesn't really give you the whole picture as they can heat up very quickly for a second and then drop back down again. Is your cpu down clocking or is it a constant? 54c doesn't seem too bad and definitely looks better than 70c

 

[FumbDuck]

I just noticed this now.

So you left that grated cheese under there? No wonder its not cooling right then...

I didn't even know what I was looking at, at first haha.. I've already placed an order for a new cooler!

Run hwinfo and observe the average temp at idle listing the lowest and highest doesn't really give you the whole picture as they can heat up very quickly for a second and then drop back down again. Is your cpu down clocking or is it a constant? 54c doesn't seem too bad and definitely looks better than 70c

I downloaded hwinfo but I'm not sure what I'm looking at haha. CPU clocks consistently at 4300mhz+. I've closed all the background apps that were previously on in my original pictures (Wallpaper Engine, Razer Central, ICUE)

 

[xman2007]

Run it and choose run sensors only you'll see a bunch of info pertaining to cpu speeds temps volts etc seems like you have no power saving settings active in your bios if it's a constant 4.3ghz

 

[FumbDuck]

Just because it is clocking up to 4 Ghz doesn't mean it has a heavy load that warrants a 60-70C idle temp. You can clearly see a low 7% load in the image and sitting at 71C.

I think you mean CPUz, yes?

Seems like idle....... or a poor way to say under load.

But yeah, the NZXT CAM software and performance monitor both show low/near idle loads and 70C temps....

Haha I'm new to this computer stuff (or even English apparently)