Just a rant about AMD and their so-called "foolproofness"

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[R-T-B]

You're frustrated with AMD Adrenalin's behavior of resetting overclock and undervolt settings after a system crash, which can be inconvenient for enthusiasts. AMD hasn't addressed this issue, and you believe it's essential for users to have more control over their GPU settings. Joining a community of enthusiasts can help bring attention to this concern and potentially lead to improvements in future software updates.

Is this an AI summary of the thread?

 

[Toothless]

Why not get a working overclock, save the profile, and go from there? You can export your settings to a file that you can say, stick on your desktop. When the card or driver crashes you can at least pull a known good config. Been using that for my 6800, 6800XT, and now 6950XT.

Driver resetting to stock is a safety feature and it does it's job extremely well. It's also not *that* hard to remember four settings..

 

[gurusmi]

Foolproof is to run the hardware inside the specs frame. you run it outside. Have you ever heard that tuning a car is the car manufactorers problem? That's your's and keep your's. I don't see your problem. Your config failed and the device drivers switch back to failsafe.

 

[Totally]

Foolproof is to run the hardware inside the specs frame. you run it outside. Have you ever heard that tuning a car is the car manufactorers problem? That's your's and keep your's. I don't see your problem. Your config failed and the device drivers switch back to failsafe.

Well the car's tune doesn't revert to factory when it's restarted after it stalls. That is the issue, if I was a auto-tech, and the ecu reverted everytime it threw a code I'd lose my dam mind. It would make troubleshooting damn near impossible.

 

[Toothless]

Foolproof is to run the hardware inside the specs frame. you run it outside. Have you ever heard that tuning a car is the car manufactorers problem? That's your's and keep your's. I don't see your problem. Your config failed and the device drivers switch back to failsafe.

You really can't compare a car to a graphics card.. one has stability and card safety, the other literal man-meat safety. Tuning is completely different and blah blah. Bad fishy.

 

[Macro Device]

Why not get a working overclock, save the profile, and go from there? You can export your settings to a file that you can say, stick on your desktop. When the card or driver crashes you can at least pull a known good config. Been using that for my 6800, 6800XT, and now 6950XT.

Driver resetting to stock is a safety feature and it does it's job extremely well. It's also not *that* hard to remember four settings..

Foolproof is to run the hardware inside the specs frame. you run it outside. Have you ever heard that tuning a car is the car manufactorers problem? That's your's and keep your's. I don't see your problem. Your config failed and the device drivers switch back to failsafe.

Try actually reading the OP next time.

Step-by-step English-to-English translation of the OP:

0. I apply my OC/UV settings.
1. I use a certain mod.
2. This mod has a bug which crashes the driver in certain scenarios.
3. I reproduce one of these scenarios.
4. The driver crashes.
5. The driver reverts settings to stock values.
6. I don't reapply my OC/UV settings.
7. I relaunch the game.
8. I still use this buggy mod.
9. I reproduce that scenario again.
10. It crashes.
11. I use a different GPU.
12. Long story short, it crashes regardless of what GPU (at least amongst AMD ones) and what settings I use.

So it's definitely not my settings which are to blame. It's not my GPU which is to blame. It's not my buddies' GPUs which I borrowed are to blame. This is the mod, it is the culprit.

Now to the real point of my post.

0. I already know the nature of crashes has absolutely nothing to do with my OC/UV settings.
1. I already got a confirmation from an official mod developer that this is not me who does something wrong.
2. I already found an OC/UV profile which never fails regardless of the game I am playing and absolutely regardless of in-game settings I use.
3. I want to never revert to stock settings, unless I really need to due to comparison reasons or due to degradation causing my OC/UV to stop being stable.
4. AMD don't let me. They revert my settings in spite of the fact my settings have nothing to do with this bug.
5. Ultimately, I am completely annoyed and I really, really want to be able to disable this safety feature because it is completely irrelevant in my particular case.
6. Running some 3rd party software to force my settings or reapplying my settings again, and again, and again is annoying.
7. AMD never commits to actually react to my messages. They didn't even say "No, we won't introduce this." I am okay with a "no," I am not okay with full-on leaving me on read.

Finally, I don't see how I can make it more comprehensible. If you have something to say other than "you are just a jerk and this is a completely appropriate software behaviour," shoot. I expected a couple of messages like that but since more than 2/3rds of orators here are unable to read what I wrote I just wanna give up on this thread.

 

[freeagent]

Why so angry?

 

[Macro Device]

Why so angry?

I'm not angry. I'm disturbed, deteriorated and disappointed.

 

[Toothless]

Try actually reading the OP next time.

Step-by-step English-to-English translation of the OP:

0. I apply my OC/UV settings.
1. I use a certain mod.
2. This mod has a bug which crashes the driver in certain scenarios.
3. I reproduce one of these scenarios.
4. The driver crashes.
5. The driver reverts settings to stock values.
6. I don't reapply my OC/UV settings.
7. I relaunch the game.
8. I still use this buggy mod.
9. I reproduce that scenario again.
10. It crashes.
11. I use a different GPU.
12. Long story short, it crashes regardless of what GPU (at least amongst AMD ones) and what settings I use.

So it's definitely not my settings which are to blame. It's not my GPU which is to blame. It's not my buddies' GPUs which I borrowed are to blame. This is the mod, it is the culprit.

Now to the real point of my post.

0. I already know the nature of crashes has absolutely nothing to do with my OC/UV settings.
1. I already got a confirmation from an official mod developer that this is not me who does something wrong.
2. I already found an OC/UV profile which never fails regardless of the game I am playing and absolutely regardless of in-game settings I use.
3. I want to never revert to stock settings, unless I really need to due to comparison reasons or due to degradation causing my OC/UV to stop being stable.
4. AMD don't let me. They revert my settings in spite of the fact my settings have nothing to do with this bug.
5. Ultimately, I am completely annoyed and I really, really want to be able to disable this safety feature because it is completely irrelevant in my particular case.
6. Running some 3rd party software to force my settings or reapplying my settings again, and again, and again is annoying.
7. AMD never commits to actually react to my messages. They didn't even say "No, we won't introduce this." I am okay with a "no," I am not okay with full-on leaving me on read.

Finally, I don't see how I can make it more comprehensible. If you have something to say other than "you are just a jerk and this is a completely appropriate software behaviour," shoot. I expected a couple of messages like that but since more than 2/3rds of orators here are unable to read what I wrote I just wanna give up on this thread.

I use the same mod with zero issues so iunno dude.

 

[Belfaborac]

If you always need to have everything exactly your own way, then basically you need to learn to do everything yourself. So if you find that Adrenalin is lacking: learn to code, backwards engineer the program, add the stuff you want, recompile, done & dusted.

 

[Macro Device]

I use the same mod with zero issues so iunno dude.

Care to show it?

 

[A Computer Guy]

I already have run everything at stock settings. I just drew more power for the same result: imminent crash due to DX12 hooking failures.

I just hate being dictated on what I can do and what I cannot do.


How do I get it?

I don't know but that sounds to me what you need. I don't know where all the AMD settings are stored but if you did know conceivably someone could program a way to snapshot the settings (as a profile) so they could be restored with a button click. If they are all in the windows registry you could save/load the registry node at least.

 

[Toothless]

Care to show it?

I'll get all that when I have a chance tonight. I also have other performance mods like using extra threads and other miscellaneous things, no issues.

 

[Macro Device]

like using extra threads

Do I understand it right that it'll boost performance on low single core performance million core CPUs?

I'm asking because my CPU's single core performance is no longer impressive since 2015 or something.

 

[Toothless]

Do I understand it right that it'll boost performance on low single core performance million core CPUs?

I'm asking because my CPU's single core performance is no longer impressive since 2015 or something.

I saw a nice smoothness bump with my system spec with it using more cores. Give it a try.

 

[Dr. Dro]

No not really, what are you talking about

Sadly it'll have to stay that way. Just trust me when I say my past relationship with AMD has been a little bit more complex than usual once I come across as a garden variety leather jacket enthusiast. It's closer to heartbroken Agent Ruby lover than anything else.

 

[Macro Device]

Give it a try.

Okay. Is this an AMD SMT patch or something different? Do you remember a link to it?

 

[Toothless]

Okay. Is this an AMD SMT patch or something different? Do you remember a link to it?

It's a mod, however apparently there is support for multiple cores in 2.0 that's coming out next week.

 

[Macro Device]

It's a mod, however apparently there is support for multiple cores in 2.0 that's coming out next week.

I mean, what exact mod that was? I only found the "General optimisations" one. After an hour tinkering I managed to make my CPU being 40 to 90 percent loaded depending on location. It's morning (6 am) already and I haven't slept since forever ago so I can't trust my eyes any more (regarding image quality tweaks) so I'm gonna back off and tweak it another time.

Still curious what exact mod you're talking about.

 

[Toothless]

I mean, what exact mod that was? I only found the "General optimisations" one. After an hour tinkering I managed to make my CPU being 40 to 90 percent loaded depending on location. It's morning (6 am) already and I haven't slept since forever ago so I can't trust my eyes any more (regarding image quality tweaks) so I'm gonna back off and tweak it another time.

Still curious what exact mod you're talking about.

I'll try to find it when home.

 

[Macro Device]

I'll try to find it when home.

Okay, thanks. Take your time, I'm not gonna happen here in a dozen hours at least.

 

[gurusmi]

Well the car's tune doesn't revert to factory when it's restarted after it stalls. That is the issue, if I was a auto-tech, and the ecu reverted everytime it threw a code I'd lose my dam mind. It would make troubleshooting damn near impossible.

The car was more an example of running out of the original specs in general. A tuned car is definitely out of the standard specs like an oc'ed GPU.

 

[thesmokingman]

Well the car's tune doesn't revert to factory when it's restarted after it stalls. That is the issue, if I was a auto-tech, and the ecu reverted everytime it threw a code I'd lose my dam mind. It would make troubleshooting damn near impossible.

No it doesn't revert instead it could just blow the F up. This whole thread is heaps and mounds of silliness.

 

[Toothless]

Okay, thanks. Take your time, I'm not gonna happen here in a dozen hours at least.

The SMT patch is in CET

Game runs flawlessly for me with that on. Maybe you have a setting enabled that messes with the game. Not sure how all of this will work in 2.0.

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