LCD or plasma?

[BumbleBee]

Play 200hours of GT4 and get back to me.

I don't know if burning his Plasma in is going to help at this point. your supposed to set the contrast ratio and brightness to below 50% and loop a DVD that displays a red, green, blue, black, grey and white image for about 100 hours. the DVD can be found on AVForum. you don't really have to do this anymore. people who have a bad experience with Plasma technology spread it like wildfire lol there is nothing wrong with Plasma technology.

 

[Wile E]

I mean image retention. Everybody calls it burn in.

 

[slyfox2151]

I mean image retention. Everybody calls it burn in.

there not the same thing.

burn in is perminent... image retention should go away within 1 hour or less depending on how bad it is... usualy its gone in 5 mins.

 

[Wile E]

Oh, then it's burn in he has. Does not go away.

 

[f22a4bandit]

I don't know if burning his Plasma in is going to help at this point. your supposed to set the contrast ratio and brightness to below 50% and loop a DVD that displays a red, green, blue, black, grey and white image for about 100 hours. the DVD can be found on AVForum. you don't really have to do this anymore. people who have a bad experience with Plasma technology spread it like wildfire lol there is nothing wrong with Plasma technology.

This is definitely correct. Although I didn't use that program, I DID avoid using a dynamic contrast, and set the brightness and contrast to 50% or below.

there not the same thing.

burn in is perminent... image retention should go away within 1 hour or less depending on how bad it is... usualy its gone in 5 mins.

Spot on.

I play FIFA and MLB 10: The Show constantly on my plasma, and after a week or so I noticed no image retention. Your friend must have gotten a defective unit, Wile, because between the two plasma sets my parents and myself own we've had zero problems.

I understand the bad rap that plasma sets have, but they've come a long way since their introduction.

 

[BumbleBee]

it's breaking in a plasma television. I apologize. I use burn-in because of headphones. it's a habit. you can run the Breaking In DVD (also portable versions) for 150-200 hours. essentially what it does is age the phosphors by burning in the entire screen evenly so unintentional burn in such as network logos or 4:3 black bars does not happen.

 

[oily_17]

it's breaking in a plasma television. I apologize. I use burn-in because of headphones. it's a habit. you can run the Breaking In DVD (also portable versions) for 150-200 hours. essentially what it does is age the phosphors by burning in the entire screen evenly so unintentional burn in such as network logos or 4:3 black bars does not happen.

You can get the Plasma Break-In Images here.

Just stick the pics on a USB stick and set your TV to run a slide-show.I used them when I first got my TV, and any IR I have noticed goes away within a few minutes.

 

[BumbleBee]

You can get the Plasma Break-In Images here.

Just stick the pics on a USB stick and set your TV to run a slide-show.I used them when I first got my TV, and any IR I have noticed goes away within a few minutes.

I think the DVD version has more images though

 

[oily_17]

I just used the 120 image one.Seemed to be enough for me.Will have to look for the DVD, may come in useful again.


EDIT: I just searched for the DVD version on AVS and it is only a 20 image version in a loop.The link above has a 70 or 120 image file.

 

[THRiLL KiLL]

how does a tv lcd\plasma compare to a computer lcd monitor?

i watch movies and such on a crappy dell monitor (19" widescreen) at work and at home i use a w2558hc, i dont see any blurring..

 

[MilkyWay]

LED LCDs are better than regular LCDs also beware there are side lit and backlit LED LCDs.

The newfangled tech is OLED which is organic but the problem is that it doesn't last forever more like 5 years or something because it degrades.

Plasma is more for blacks and LCDs more for brightness; LCDs are better computer displays because they are more pixelated and have good response times. Most plasma tvs are 720p or lower 1080p ones do exist but are more pricey, LCDs are generally 1080p but i would only really be bothered if i was using it as a pc monitor but i wouldn't recommend a tv as a monitor.

If you can i would get an LED LCD because its newer tech but otherwise just for regular viewing and movies get a plasma.

Also note that plasma tvs are heavy.

 

[n-ster]

oh someone critiqued about me saying it is harder to mount a plasma on the wall... Believe, it is not easy feat when it is that heavy lol, those much lighter LCDs are much easier to mount. Ofc, I have weak muscles and weigh only 118lbs but still LOL

 

[BumbleBee]

LED LCDs are better than regular LCDs also beware there are side lit and backlit LED LCDs.

The newfangled tech is OLED which is organic but the problem is that it doesn't last forever more like 5 years or something because it degrades.

Plasma is more for blacks and LCDs more for brightness; LCDs are better computer displays because they are more pixelated and have good response times. Most plasma tvs are 720p or lower 1080p ones do exist but are more pricey, LCDs are generally 1080p but i would only really be bothered if i was using it as a pc monitor but i wouldn't recommend a tv as a monitor.

If you can i would get an LED LCD because its newer tech but otherwise just for regular viewing and movies get a plasma.

Also note that plasma tvs are heavy.

Plasma are not expensive. a couple retailers are selling my Viera 42" S2 (1080p) for $599. the Sharp 40" LC-40LE700UN and JVC 42" LT-42P300 LCD are heavier than it.

 

[OrbitzXT]

I don't know if it was mentioned but I would really buy from NewEgg instead of local. You don't have to pay tax, you'll get a better price overall, shipping is sometimes free if you find a deal, and they actually ship it in good condition. At least they do here in New York. I've never had any problems. And in the event there is damage, it's not like your stuck with it. NewEgg's support is awesome and they'll take care of you. Lastly, NewEgg ships so fast that even with standard 3 day shipping you get your item in under 24 hours sometimes.

 

[n-ster]

I don't know about the newer plasmas, but the older ones were a lot heavier than LCDs

 

[BumbleBee]

the Viera 42" S2 is VESA mount and weighs 55lbs with base. in the 40"/42" range some LCD weigh more and many weigh only 5-10lbs less.

check out Panasonic 2011 ZT30 Wireless 3D Plasma.

 

[choppy]

staying within your budget = LCD.

however, going out your budget... i'd just wait a few months as LED's are dropping rapidly in price.
For instance , you can pickup a Samsung 40" LED for £550 which was £800+ a couple months ago.

save a bit more, it'll be worth it

 

[v12dock]

I have always thought LCDs look better than plasma

 

[choppy]

i dont think anybody can REALLY tell the difference between LCD or plasma.
personally I prefer LED as its thinner and uses less power.

regarding plasma..what use is a tv that costs $600-700 and you have to spend 200 hours 'burning it in' . useless

 

[qubit]

i dont think anybody can REALLY tell the difference between LCD or plasma.

You're kidding?

There are considerable differences in their performance. The most obvious being viewing angles, motion smear, colour quality and flicker.

These points have been made earlier on in this thread by various posters, including myself. In the end, there are pros and cons to both technologies and there isn't a clear winner in all situations.

You might find this plasma v LCD article interesting: www.plasmatvbuyingguide.com/plasmatvreviews/plasma-vs-lcd.html

 

[BumbleBee]

i dont think anybody can REALLY tell the difference between LCD or plasma.
personally I prefer LED as its thinner and uses less power.

regarding plasma..what use is a tv that costs $600-700 and you have to spend 200 hours 'burning it in' . useless

I can tell the difference.

you don't have to break a plasma in. it's something people do to err on the side of caution. your patience does not go unrewarded.

 

[choppy]

There are considerable differences in their performance. The most obvious being viewing angles, motion smear, colour quality and flicker.

okay so maybe a handful of people out of every 100 may take this into consideration, but thats the minority. i cant see any normal person on the high street taking any of this into consideration.

its all about money at the end of the day, which is the reason lcd's sell more quantity than plasma's

 

[BumbleBee]

rest assured the Plasma market isn't going anywhere.

 

[qubit]

okay so maybe a handful of people out of every 100 may take this into consideration, but thats the minority. i cant see any normal person on the high street taking any of this into consideration.

its all about money at the end of the day, which is the reason lcd's sell more quantity than plasma's

If you're thinking of your average high street ignoramous, then you're probably right - I've got friends like that, lol. But they are hardly a benchmark worth comparing against, are they?

In fact, it's because the vast majority are ignorant plebs, that us, who understand what we're looking at, get stuck with inferior products. A good example are LCD monitors for PCs. Great in some situations, shit performance in others and we're still stuck with those problems to this day.

Shortly before CRT technology died out a few years ago, manufacturers (I think Panasonic was doing this) were looking to bring out a new, thin CRT that had the tube tightly folded over, reducing much of the bulk and weight of the traditional CRT. This would have been a great advance in CRT technology and made them lighter and very competitive, retaining their traditional advantages, while reducing the disadvantages. Unfortunately, it was never released and I've never seen any detailed info on this technology.

 

[choppy]

I am also an ignorami (is that plural for ignoramus?) you speak of!

dont get me wrong, in a perfect world where i'm rich I would pay for a tv that gives me the best clarity and colour etc.

however with the majority of folks that just isnt the case and as you say, they dont understand the tech jargon. this is where business & marketing takes over. Price is always going to be the deciding factor