LCD or plasma?

[BumbleBee]

sure we have them. at twice the price of an LED screen.

wow.

 

[Mussels]

wow.

hell we only just got LED screens in time for christmas >.<


plasmas way behind here.

 

[Kwod]

How much is freight from Melbourne?

 

[Mussels]

How much is freight from Melbourne?

cheaper to drive there and back.


i think we're dragging this off topic a bit, as i'm not in the market for a new TV any time soon.

 

[TRIPTEX_CAN]

After years of using LCDs for my home entertainment I finally came into the market again. I looked at as many TVs as I could find on display. IMO all current 120-240Hz LCD and LED TVs are annoying to watch due to an unnatural and unavoidable motion effect caused by their refresh rates. This motion issue is the absolute worst thing I've seen in new TVs. You have to see it to understand what I'm talking about but it's there.

Eventually I started looking at plasmas and realised all my prejudice about plasma screens was misplsaced. I thought plasmas were heavy but the plasma I settled on weighs the same as the LED I was going to buy. I thought I would have glare issues since I have a wall of windows open to a mountian view in my living room but the plasma I bought is actually handling glare better then my "old" LCD.

The plasma I bought is as thin as an LED (thinner than most LCD), has less glare than almost any other TV, has better colors and blacks that I never even thought possible, and cost almost $2000 less than an equivalent specd LED.

IMO I couldnt have put a better TV on my wall. With that said NOT all plasmas are created equal and for $600 you might not get the quality you're looking for. In the budget price range LCD might have the edge.

 

[Brilford Wimley]

After years of using LCDs for my home entertainment I finally came into the market again. I looked at as many TVs as I could find on display. IMO all current 120-240Hz LCD and LED TVs are annoying to watch due to an unnatural and unavoidable motion effect caused by their refresh rates. This motion issue is the absolute worst thing I've seen in new TVs. You have to see it to understand what I'm talking about but it's there.

Eventually I started looking at plasmas and realised all my prejudice about plasma screens was misplsaced. I thought plasmas were heavy but the plasma I settled on weighs the same as the LED I was going to buy. I thought I would have glare issues since I have a wall of windows open to a mountian view in my living room but the plasma I bought is actually handling glare better then my "old" LCD.

The plasma I bought is as thin as an LED (thinner than most LCD), has less glare than almost any other TV, has better colors and blacks that I never even thought possible, and cost almost $2000 less than an equivalent specd LED.

IMO I couldnt have put a better TV on my wall. With that said NOT all plasmas are created equal and for $600 you might not get the quality you're looking for. In the budget price range LCD might have the edge.

Please, don't you dare tell us the model you bought.

 

[n-ster]

Yea I wanna know too lol

 

[TRIPTEX_CAN]

Sorry. It's the Samsung pn58c8000. Forgot to add that.

 

[dukercatfan]

I say GO PLASMA. My buddy has a 65in plasma with pc and xbox on it....WOW is all i can say....smooth awesome game play(and we burn bfbc2 and MoH up) and a friggin HUGE desktop
cheers and good luck

 

[oily_17]

After years of using LCDs for my home entertainment I finally came into the market again. I looked at as many TVs as I could find on display. IMO all current 120-240Hz LCD and LED TVs are annoying to watch due to an unnatural and unavoidable motion effect caused by their refresh rates. This motion issue is the absolute worst thing I've seen in new TVs. You have to see it to understand what I'm talking about but it's there.

Eventually I started looking at plasmas and realised all my prejudice about plasma screens was misplsaced. I thought plasmas were heavy but the plasma I settled on weighs the same as the LED I was going to buy. I thought I would have glare issues since I have a wall of windows open to a mountian view in my living room but the plasma I bought is actually handling glare better then my "old" LCD.

The plasma I bought is as thin as an LED (thinner than most LCD), has less glare than almost any other TV, has better colors and blacks that I never even thought possible, and cost almost $2000 less than an equivalent specd LED.

IMO I couldnt have put a better TV on my wall. With that said NOT all plasmas are created equal and for $600 you might not get the quality you're looking for. In the budget price range LCD might have the edge.

Sorry. It's the Samsung pn58c8000. Forgot to add that.

A very good choice, I have the exact same TV (well the UK c7000, which is the same as the American c8000 model) and absolutely love it as well.

 

[BumbleBee]

I was about to buy the Samsung PN50C8000 model for my living room but I decided it's a bit late in the year to buy a new television so i'm going to wait until CES (Jan 6-9) to see the 2011 lineups.

one television Panasonic is showing at CES 2011 is their flagship model the Panasonic ZT30 3D Plasma. it's the first wireless 3D television.

 

[Kwod]

Having spent many hours reviewing LED LCD HDTVs, testing a plasma was like putting on a pair of comfortable shoes. We knew there was a reason we preferred the technology and it was staring us in the face when we fired it up. Colors were more natural with good black levels that made everything pop off the screen. LED LCD HDTVs may have come a long way, but plasma is still king for more realistic images—and this wasn’t Panasonic’s best edition.

http://www.digitaltrends.com/tv-reviews/panasonic-viera-tc-p50gt25-review/

Every professional web reviewer I read prefers plasma......but buying a no name brand is downright silly, so buy a decent NEO or Samsung and you'll have one of the best HDTV's.

 

[Chewy]

Well I popped back in to see how the tread was going. I was just reading up some more. So anyone whos interested in this thread/topic should consider a read here too http://forum.blu-ray.com/plasma-tvs/154133-plasmas-best.html

Plasmas can be the best depending on what your looking for, and in some cases like mussels.. pricing. but they go hand in hand.

One note on heat output. I find my new Plasma Panasonic 50" s2, has less heat output than my Sharp Aquos 37" that I bought 3 years ago. One thing I like is I paid $1300 for my sharp and 1,080 for my 50" which is far superior to previous superior Well Sharp Aquos LCDs were one of the best back than.

Well Plasma has gained one more "fanboy" lol. I'm just really impressed with the PQ. ITs alot better than I expected!



Something for BumbleBee since he also owns an s2 http://reviews.plasmatvbuyingguide.com/plasmatvreviews/panasonic-tcp50s2-review.html

I find those settings look great. I dont have the contrast or brightness that high since my tv is still brand new.

 

[BumbleBee]

Well I popped back in to see how the tread was going. I was just reading up some more. So anyone whos interested in this thread/topic should consider a read here too http://forum.blu-ray.com/plasma-tvs/154133-plasmas-best.html

Plasmas can be the best depending on what your looking for, and in some cases like mussels.. pricing. but they go hand in hand.

One note on heat output. I find my new Plasma Panasonic 50" s2, has less heat output than my Sharp Aquos 37" that I bought 3 years ago. One thing I like is I paid $1300 for my sharp and 1,080 for my 50" which is far superior to previous superior Well Sharp Aquos LCDs were one of the best back than.

Well Plasma has gained one more "fanboy" lol. I'm just really impressed with the PQ. ITs alot better than I expected!



Something for BumbleBee since he also owns an s2 http://reviews.plasmatvbuyingguide.com/plasmatvreviews/panasonic-tcp50s2-review.html

I find those settings look great. I dont have the contrast or brightness that high since my tv is still brand new.

i'm not a he. I read that, thank you. I thought you bought the G25 model? I am not a fan of the G25 series but I thought this was funny.

 

[Chewy]

Oh I'm sorry I feel stupid now lol. Yeah the S2 D6500k guide is something to go by if you have a dark room. I found it a nice setting - the high brightness/contrast for now. Once its broken in I'll pay around some more.

Naa I used the G25 display model nexted to the Sony edge-lit 60" as a comparison on boxing day. Since it has a similar screen to the S2 that was out of stock at that store.

Once again, Sorry BumbeBee! Thanks for the link, funny indeed. I really like the viewing area.. works great.

 

[BumbleBee]

both televisions have the same picture quality and motion. both televisions have the same amount of ports however the LG has 1 extra HDMI but Panasonic has a SD card slot. Panasonic strength is blacks and viewing angle. LG strength is brightness.

Panasonic cost $1499. LG cost $3499.

 

[Chewy]

Ah I understand now. In a sense for LCD to have about the same PQ you have to spend more. Well atleast in this insistence alot more. Movie watching is my main thing on the TV. Inky Blacks look so good as does the PQ. Well off to bed I go.

 

[Kwod]

Depending what Panasonic and Samsung come up with, 2011 might be the yr that plasma really destroy LCD/LED, regardless of what the average person thinks.

 

[TRIPTEX_CAN]

Depending what Panasonic and Samsung come up with, 2011 might be the yr that plasma really destroy LCD/LED, regardless of what the average person thinks.

Possibly but I think the difference in price alone would have done that in 2010.

 

[Kwod]

Possibly but I think the difference in price alone would have done that in 2010.

It's just that LCD can't seem to dip below 0.04/05 on their black levels, and if Pana go Kuro crazy and produce some hardcore numbers, people might wake up to the fact that LCD is a stagnant technology that costs more.

There are obviously situations where an LCD is still preferable, but for everyone else, plasma will rule.

 

[farlex85]

It's just that LCD can't seem to dip below 0.04/05 on their black levels, and if Pana go Kuro crazy and produce some hardcore numbers, people might wake up to the fact that LCD is a stagnant technology that costs more.

There are obviously situations where an LCD is still preferable, but for everyone else, plasma will rule.

If panasonic were to do that, those televisions would likely be similarly priced to the Kuros of old, which were somewhat comparable in price to LED's right now. It would produce the best IQ possible, but that would be overshadowed in the market by an uninformed buying populace. There is a reason Pioneer stopped producing the Kuro, although it trumped every other television on the market by a fairly wide margin, they didn't make enough money off the line. Let's face it most people just look for the deals, and people don't know crap about the things they buy. Most people I talk to these days still believe LED is a completely separate technology from LCD. And the word plasma hold a stigma that will likely never overcome the ignorance of the public.

Plasma will continue to hold a strong place for the researched and those looking for best bang for the buck, or just best bang period, but I doubt they will ever capture as much of the market as LCD's again.

 

[DaMulta]

I would love a kick ass plasma, but I'm scared to death of burn ins. If I left my desktop on it for days I think I would be screwed. Or like the end of a netflix show...I could just see a big black box in the center of my screen burned in.

 

[Wile E]

I would love a kick ass plasma, but I'm scared to death of burn ins. If I left my desktop on it for days I think I would be screwed. Or like the end of a netflix show...I could just see a big black box in the center of my screen burned in.

That's the main issue I have with it. Sure, it looks great, but not if you have an image permanently burned into the screen.

 

[farlex85]

I would love a kick ass plasma, but I'm scared to death of burn ins. If I left my desktop on it for days I think I would be screwed. Or like the end of a netflix show...I could just see a big black box in the center of my screen burned in.

Yeah if you want to use your TV like a computer monitor and leave it on constantly, plasma isn't the way to go. I simply turn mine off when I walk away. Easy enough to do and all but eliminates any chance of burn in.

 

[TRIPTEX_CAN]

Current high end plasmas don't suffer nearly as much from image retention as previous generations.