Legality of TPU Hosting DLSS DLLs

[Aquinus]

i was OP so i was steering it to cause chaos looks like they fixed it tho, obvioulsy caused a stir. and yeah its a bad precedent, im gunna share gpu-z on the premise that i have an archive of an older version that they wont supply (/s)
@W1zzard

That's a bit different though. You're shipping an application and it's just out of date and the newer version is better. Something like a DLL is a bit different because of how it's intended to be used and the license that's associated with it. I'm pretty sure W1zz doesn't include no redistribution language on a license for GPU-Z. nVidia on the other hand, has explicitly called this out. There is a big difference because they're two different decisions regarding IP, both of which should be respected.

 

[Midland Dog]

Feel free to do that, or just go to the GPU-Z download page and click "Show older versions"

you have respect still its just deteriorating, an example is an example, lets say you didnt and i did, wouldnt feel nice for someone else to host your work, yeah nvidia is a big mob but some dude still smashed hours out making dlss version x and im sure they would like to be the one to say just click older versions i recommend x y and z

Yeah, TPU is a strange place. I think mussles just lost it for some unknown reason, maybe he’s just having a bad day.

im good at my job

 

[Aquinus]

Seriously though. Am I really a terrible person for being a software engineer and thinking that the license I choose for my personal works should be respected? I have to respect licenses for the software I use in my job and for personal works and I have to respect that while I work the IP I produce is the property of the business, so why would this be any different? I have strong opinions about this because it's something I need to be very aware of in my profession.

 

[Midland Dog]

Seriously though. Am I really a terrible person for being a software engineer and thinking that the license I choose for my personal works should be respected? I have to respect licenses for the software I use in my job and for personal works and I have to respect that while I work the IP I produce is the property of the business, so why would this be any different? I have strong opinions about this because it's something I need to be very aware of in my profession.

the problem with this is that it only becomes illegal if say joe moe downloads dlss x.z for his pirated version of y game. just hosting the files isnt illegal. better to take them down and let pc gaming wiki handle that hot spud. keep stuff like c++ redist here since ms is to tarded to host it themselves but yeah nah, take it down

 

[stimpy88]

Seriously though. Am I really a terrible person for being a software engineer and thinking that the license I choose for my personal works should be respected? I have to respect licenses for the software I use in my job and for personal works and I have to respect that while I work the IP I produce is the property of the business, so why would this be any different? I have strong opinions about this because it's something I need to be very aware of in my profession.

You lost respect when you told everyone that you had just reported this site to nVidia.

 

[freeagent]

Wow.. what a show.

*golf clap*

 

[Midland Dog]

You lost respect when you told everyone that you had just reported this site to nVidia.

specifically quote me specifically stating that i ratted anyone spastic, cease and desist ALL defamation, im manipulative and evil, but im no rat, ill use the threat of a rat but i aint no rat

 

[stimpy88]

...No, I know how to read a freaking license and I write software for a living and have to abide by these sort of licenses. Apparently you people don't.

Edit: ...and for what it's worth, I have notified nVidia. I'll let them figure it out. They'll either take action or they won't, but if it were my software and people were in violation of the license, I'd be pretty pissed.

specifically quote me specifically stating that i ratted anyone spastic, cease and desist ALL defamation, im manipulative and evil, but im no rat, ill use the threat of a rat but i aint no rat

Dude, you need to calm down, and get back in your pram.

 

[Midland Dog]

waiting for you to say where i, midland dog ratted someone, i said i could, but never did

 

[stimpy88]

waiting for you to say where i, midland dog ratted someone, i said i could, but never did

Are you really this simple? Read the post, and see who was quoted in it. You will find that it wasn't you.

 

[Dr. Dro]

I'll just throw my sincere opinion on this matter, even if it is supposedly a naughty thing to do by TPU, I would go as far as saying that it isn't in NV's best interests to prevent hosting of their official, precompiled redistributables for gamers' use, and that they should host these files in a readily available location themselves - since apparently, all it takes is the DLSS DLL replacement to "upgrade" a game from say, DLSS 1.0 to DLSS 2.x. They have competition now, on both hardware performance (hello, 3090 losing to the 6800 XT in some games! looking at you RDR2) and AMD's own open-source, hardware abstract upscaler, which also works on their own graphics cards, of any kind, age, and generation with stunning results.

Full disclaimer, I have an RTX 3090. FidelityFX Super Resolution works exceedingly well - and i'd argue that it is on equal footing to DLSS as far as performance and looks go. I will just say it to anyone's face: DLSS has never influenced my purchase decisions and I will gladly give up on this "technology", especially since AMD's competing solution is of very high quality indeed works just as well should I ever need to resort to using one with the kind of hardware I have. I fully expect DLSS to have the same fate as PhysX.

 

[Midland Dog]

Are you really this simple? Read the post, and see who was quoted in it. You will find that it wasn't you.

"You lost respect when you told everyone that you had just reported this site to nVidia." no one even said the word respect in this thread other than me

 

[Frick]

waiting for you to say where i, midland dog ratted someone, i said i could, but never did

No, he's saying you didn't.

FWIW I think Aquinus did the right thing. If Nvidia ignores it we have an answer. And please, stop with idea of that was a tattle or whatever you call it. This ain't the 90's anymore and we are part of a shady IRC channel no one knows about.

 

[R-T-B]

I fully expect DLSS to have the same fate as PhysX.

Proliferation to a literal ton of games via Unity?

OT but bad comparison.

 

[stimpy88]

"You lost respect when you told everyone that you had just reported this site to nVidia." no one even said the word respect in this thread other than me

It really does seem that you really are that simple after all. Is your username here Aquinus? Because it clearly states that i'm quoting his post.

 

[Midland Dog]

"You lost respect when you told everyone that you had just reported this site to nVidia." no one even said the word respect in this thread other than me

No, he's saying you didn't.

FWIW I think Aquinus did the right thing. If Nvidia ignores it we have an answer. And please, stop with idea of that was a tattle or whatever you call it. This ain't the 90's anymore and we are part of a shady IRC channel no one knows about.

hes basically baited himself is whats happened. i said quote me being a rat and he quoted someone else so i asked again. main point is to troll, this entire thread is a troll, i did it to annoy a mod, bout to download some music from youtube kek

 

[stimpy88]

hes basically baited himself is whats happened. i said quote me being a rat and he quoted someone else so i asked again. main point is to troll, this entire thread is a troll, i did it to annoy a mod, bout to download some music from youtube kek

You really are pointless. Speaks volumes about the admins and moderation here.

 

[Dredi]

I'll just throw my sincere opinion on this matter, even if it is supposedly a naughty thing to do by TPU, I would go as far as saying that it isn't in NV's best interests to prevent hosting of their official, precompiled redistributables for gamers' use, and that they should host these files in a readily available location themselves - since apparently, all it takes is the DLSS DLL replacement to "upgrade" a game from say, DLSS 1.0 to DLSS 2.x. They have competition now, on both hardware performance (hello, 3090 losing to the 6800 XT in some games! looking at you RDR2) and AMD's own open-source, hardware abstract upscaler, which also works on their own graphics cards, of any kind, age, and generation with stunning results.

I completely agree! The licence is simply just harmful to nvidia, and makes no sense in the current market. IMO they should just strip the licence of the dll’s and the API and call it a day. I’m not holding my breath though, as clearly they can get more when media outlets are distributing it regardless.

the dlss 1.0 library is not API compatible with the 2.x versions though.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
After using some basic forum features I feel better now

You really are pointless. Speaks volumes about the admins and moderation here.

Not sure how he's existed this long.

 

[stimpy88]

Hi,
After using some basic forum features I feel better now

I get you, I'm doing it now... Cheers for the reminder.

 

[Dr. Dro]

Proliferation to a literal ton of games via Unity?

OT but bad comparison.

Oh no, by "fate" I mean thrown in a GitHub repo as "open source with some caveats" and effectively forgotten about. The thing about DLSS being supported on some blockbuster games of its time is already ongoing for some time now, just like the 2008-2013 games all having PhysX showcased as hot stuff and gamers having a secondary dedicated GPU just for it being some sort of status symbol.

The last PhysX redist from NV is a few years old at this point and no games have used this technology for a considerable amount of time now, as other platform agnostic and/or open-source solutions supplanted, and then replaced it entirely.

I completely agree! The licence is simply just harmful to nvidia, and makes no sense in the current market. IMO they should just strip the licence of the dll’s and the API and call it a day. I’m not holding my breath though, as clearly they can get more when media outlets are distributing it regardless.

the dlss 1.0 library is not API compatible with the 2.x versions though.

Oh, nice. I guess we learn something new every day. I think I read somewhere that upgrading from 2.0 to 2.1 or something was possible by DLL replacement, so... I'll just be frank here, I care very, very little about upscaling technologies, aside from finding how they work rather fascinating... if I wanted to compromise in any way from a pristine, native resolution image, I would be running an RX 480 right now. That graphics card was cheap, yet so great, it'd probably still run virtually everything I play at 1080p with highish graphics settings very happily.

 

[stimpy88]

Hi,
After using some basic forum features I feel better now


Not sure how he's existed this long.

I'm pretty sure he is using multiple accounts, and a few of them are in this thread. They even have conversations with each other. At least he is committed, one way or another!

 

[Midland Dog]

You really are pointless. Speaks volumes about the admins and moderation here.

@wizzard1 and now i turn your people against you lmao

 

[Dredi]

I'm pretty sure he is using multiple accounts, and a few of them are in this thread. They even have conversations with each other. At least he is committed, one way or another!

And someone is paranoid.

 

[Midland Dog]

I'm pretty sure he is using multiple accounts, and a few of them are in this thread. They even have conversations with each other. At least he is committed, one way or another!

nope, just the one, im just that powerful. cease and desist

And someone is paranoid.

hes freakin out brah ahahahaha