Looking for guidance, More VRAM or more performance

[izy]

The only way for the 4070 to have 256 bit bus is to use a scaled down version of the current 4080, the AD103 gp and that's it, rumor has it that the 4070 TI Super will do something like that, but who knows, . using AD103 in 4070 Super would be nice but I don't think it will happen

 

[iameatingjam]

Me neither. Infact that was the first thing I said, that I didn't think it would happen. So I don't get the hostility.

 

[Dr. Dro]

OP, I was in about the same shoes, although my reasoning for upgrading was a bit more selfish - my RTX 3090 was 3 years old and I wanted it gone. The RTX 4080, if you can afford it, is an extremely efficient and outrageously powerful graphics card with very good drivers and excellent overall compatibility. Couldn't be happier with mine, although I have a particularly awesome model (and extremely expensive one too). This GPU is around 40% faster than the vanilla 3090 at the stock power limits at half the median power consumption. Should still be a good 20 to 25% faster than the RTX 3090 Ti, which is still an insane graphics card as far as I'm concerned. The 16 GB is not and will not be an issue even at 4K.

If you need something a little cheaper, the 7900 XTX is also an excellent card, although AMD's drivers are very hit or miss on stability and compatibility fronts, and should be considered an afterthought if you're after the latest graphics technologies around. Unfortunately, with AMD, you never get the state of the art experience, whether due to performance shortcomings or things just being flat out unsupported, and it's not a matter of whether you may have problems, it's when you will. Some people will never run into problems - or at least not enough to actively acknowledge that they're there and that this mars their experience, others will dread the day they decided to purchase their card (and you can guess the camp I hail from) - meanwhile, Nvidia's graphics drivers tend to be "boring", the exact way you want them to be - you'll often forget you haven't updated them in weeks.

Surprised to see so many people recommending the 4080. I get its not a half bad card but the price its just insane, and its not even close to the 4090 in performance. Its an insult, and buying it only convinces nvidia 80 class cards at $1200 USD is acceptable.

It's not that far off. The 4090 is more powerful, yes, but the 4080 is a very balanced card which achieves excellent utilization figures at a rather modest power footprint. Its only negative is the high price. Agree with you as well, the 16 GB, 256-bit "4070" would be very welcome, in fact, I believe this is the true "4070" and the 4090 is what the 4080 should have been. Oh well.

 

[Klemc]

When SUPER will be out non-Super will get lower price, i hope for buyer.

 

[R33mba]

I can bet you It wont!
nvidia dont lower their price if it hasnt to..

 

[Frick]

This one says it doesn't:

It's ~10% faster for ~10% more power.

FWIW I've never seen my 6950xt go above 311W.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Easy breezy guys

Fixed that for you.

Team Green is all about AI.

It's become a big money maker, which shouldn't be surprising.

 

[AusWolf]

Unfortunately, I am in need of a new GPU during these expensive times. With how expensive getting a new card would be, I'm looking to future-proof my purchase a little bit and am willing to splurge on something higher end than I normally would if it means I don't have to upgrade for a generation longer than normal (not gonna get a 4090 though...).
What I am mainly debating is whether or not getting more vram or more raw performance would be better for my usecase. I mainly play at 1440p but occasionally hook my pc up to the tv to play more cinematic games. So at most I would need to push 4k60fps. Would getting something like an rx 7900 xt or xtx with their 20 or 24gb of vram be more important or would getting the raw performance potential of a rtx 4080 be a better choice, is 16gb of vram enough for the way current games are trending to hog all of it. Are all these choices uneccesary and a rx7800 xt or a rtx 4070 or 4070ti be more than enough for my usecase.
Only on rare occasions do I ever render and edit videos and pictures so they don't have to put up with that often, with the footage also maxing out at 4k60fps.

I'm not sure if your question has been answered (I'm not gonna read 4 pages to find out), but here's my 2 cents:
16 GB VRAM is enough for current games. The question however, is, do you want to plan for future games as well? If swapping the 4080 out in a couple of years isn't an issue, then it's not a bad option, provided you can get one for the same price as a 7900 XTX. With that said, the 7900 XTX is currently about £200 cheaper than the 4080 here in the UK, which makes it a much better deal, in my opinion.

 

[nomdeplume]

Fixed that for you.

I'm not really sure why you commented. On being fixed.

For me, the lame jokes downplaying hostility come easy peasy, lemon squeezy without being worried how anyone else thinks.

It's not that far off. The 4090 is more powerful, yes, but the 4080 is a very balanced card which achieves excellent utilization figures at a rather modest power footprint. Its only negative is the high price. Agree with you as well, the 16 GB, 256-bit "4070" would be very welcome, in fact, I believe this is the true "4070" and the 4090 is what the 4080 should have been. Oh well.

An excellent example of how long term awareness destroys distinctions. I see more and more people slowly accommodating what they instantly recognized would be a bad decision for them. Financially or otherwise.

The correct response is to wish everyone a very happy holiday season whether their object of greatest desire is attainable or not. Avoidance of that which would fail to make them happy.


Edit: Somehow I accidentally trimmed the first quote where I suggested Dr. Dro made the correct decision for his own needs. Then moved on to politely helping others arrive at sensible conclusions where a confusing amount of opinions and items stated as fact were proving limiting. Actual hands on experience with hardware removes a lot of theoreticals.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I'm not really sure why you commented. On being fixed.

For me, the lame jokes downplaying hostility come easy peasy, lemon squeezy without being worried how anyone else thinks.

Because the phrase is "Easy BREEZY, lemon squeezy." It means "Easy as a cool summer's breeze, sipping some lemon squeezed ice tea." Whoever came up with the alteration "peasy" is a nitwit.
But I digress...

Actual hands on experience with hardware removes a lot of theoreticals.

Agreed.