Low Benchmark in 3DMark '05

[Tatty_Two]

I checked your link that showed the comparisons between the various cards you mentioned, it shows the 850xt at stock, you will see from my specs that I am85 core and over 100 memory beyond those hence I mentioned that Imy speeds exceed PE.

I notice everyone is doing benchmarks now LOL, anyone any ideas about this "print screen" dilemma I am in????

 

[Satchmo]

and my x1600xt HIS is overclocked by 50mhz on the cpu and 110 mhz on the ram. What do 1800xl 's get in 3dmark 05? 9k+?

look at you print screen button on your keyboard, it may be a ctrl function alternate to another key. if not use fraps to take a screenshot.

 

[Tatty_Two]

3DMark05 Project Details
Project Info
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Description


Non Tweaked Modded OCW Beta 5 BIOS
Date


2006-04-15 Project ID


1957970 Published

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System Configuration


General Information
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP

DirectX Version 9.0c

Mobo Manufacturer

Mobo Model 939Dual-SATA2

AGP Rates (Current/Available) N/A / N/A

CPU AMD Athlon(tm) 64 2501 MHz

FSB 200 MHz

Memory 1024 MB



Display Information
Graphics Chipset ATI RADEON X850 XT

Driver Name RADEON X850 Series

Driver Version 6.14.10.6587

Driver Status WHQL - FM Approved

Video Memory 256 MB

Core Clock 600 MHz

Memory Clock 644 MHz



Benchmark Settings
Program Version 3DMark05 Revision 2 Build 0

Resolution 1024x768@32 bit

Anti-Aliasing None

Texture Filtering Optimal

Vertex Shader Profile 2_0

Pixel Shader Profile 2_b

Force Full Precision Off

Disable DST Off

Disable Post-processing Off

Force Software Vertex Shaders Off

Color Mipmaps Off

Repeat Count Off



Main Test Results
3DMark Score 7190 3DMarks

CPU Score 5060 CPUMarks



Detailed Test Results


Game Tests
GT1 - Return To Proxycon 31.4 fps

GT2 - Firefly Forest 20.9 fps

GT3 - Canyon Flight 33.2 fps



CPU Tests
CPU Test 1 2.4 fps

CPU Test 2 4.6 fps

Have downloaded fraps and could not get that to work either! I have cut and paste the entry from the online results browser at futuremark, I appreciate this is not ideal as you may still not believe an850XT at PE speeds can exceed 7000 on 3D Mark 2005. Once I have voltmodded with this new BIOS I will re-tweak it and run another test, I think you will find that will exceed 7300! At the end of the day your card is the more futureproof (I presume you have SM3.0? but I also believe you have only a 128Mhz bus which is very limiting in comparison with 256.
Cheers

 

[Satchmo]

well i overclocked my cpu to 2.7ghz everything is stable

My ram is really amazing the crap out of me, most of the time what i read is getting a stable ram setup going, people saying use either tight timings or high frequency, both usually causes system to either not boot or be super unstable, my ram is cheapo wintec that i bought refurbished for $60 1gb stick, and my 512 stick came with my computer, both have stock timeings of 3,3,3,8 T2, when benchmarked theyre like 2800mbps write, 2400mbps read, 60ns latency. Right now with my system severely overclocked my ram is running @ 455 mhz, 2.5,3,3,6 T1 benchmakr shows ~3300mbps all across the board with 43ns latency.

anyways i upped the voltage to my pci-e port by .03V and managed to get another 10mzh on both processor and ram.

just ran 3dmark05 again, got 6023. How impressed am i? extremely i tell you. Anyways i guess 7k+ in 3dmark05 for that card isnt really outrageous sorry that i doubted you and tried to call you out on a lie

I got wtfpwned, and im jealous your rig > mine. Just wait till i buy my second x1600xt for crossfire, ill hopefully get close to 9k

and yeah from what i read the 128-bit ring bus albeit new technology, for memory controller it is still the biggest bottle neck, and most likely the reasoning behind the failure of the x1600 series cards.

 

[Tatty_Two]

Just read the helpfile with FRAPS lol, it talks about ATI drivers, I have the modded Omega drivers which may explain why it does not work.

Not sure on the 1800 scores but there is a thread in here showing an 1800xt at 11700 odd for 3D Mark 2005.

 

[Tatty_Two]

well i overclocked my cpu to 2.7ghz everything is stable

My ram is really amazing the crap out of me, most of the time what i read is getting a stable ram setup going, people saying use either tight timings or high frequency, both usually causes system to either not boot or be super unstable, my ram is cheapo wintec that i bought refurbished for $60 1gb stick, and my 512 stick came with my computer, both have stock timeings of 3,3,3,8 T2, when benchmarked theyre like 2800mbps write, 2400mbps read, 60ns latency. Right now with my system severely overclocked my ram is running @ 455 mhz, 2.5,3,3,6 T1 benchmakr shows ~3300mbps all across the board with 43ns latency.

anyways i upped the voltage to my pci-e port by .03V and managed to get another 10mzh on both processor and ram.

just ran 3dmark05 again, got 6023. How impressed am i? extremely i tell you. Anyways i guess 7k+ in 3dmark05 for that card isnt really outrageous sorry that i doubted you and tried to call you out on a lie

I got wtfpwned, and im jealous your rig > mine. Just wait till i buy my second x1600xt for crossfire, ill hopefully get close to 9k

and yeah from what i read the 128-bit ring bus albeit new technology, for memory controller it is still the biggest bottle neck, and most likely the reasoning behind the failure of the x1600 series cards.

No problems, your CPU can out do mine anyways (well lets see after the voltmod tomorrow!). I am sure that there are some in here that shall we say exagggerate on the scores but mine are truly genuine, to the point that until I voltmod and tweak new BIOS my siggy score will go back down to 7190! By the way, bet I know a couple of secrets that could get you to 6400-6500!!!! you will have to wait till tomorrow tho cause I have to go for now.

 

[Turrican]

sorry, that it took so long. firstly i had to mess around with the voltages a bit, for tighter timings and secondly it had to resize the attachment, because it was too big to upload

i got 8087 points

again 660/640 with more tightened timings, gave me another 100 points. the ram is nearly maxed out, but on the core i hopefully can get a little bit closer to 700




as for the cpu-test i have the prob that i get dropped back to desktop in the first/second test.
maybe my cpu is too much oced. it doesn't matter if the card is oced or not

for questions just ask

greetings Turrican

 

[Satchmo]

how are you changing timings for ram on your video card? im very interested in this, ive read x1600xt uses some pretty decent performing ram, so im wondering if i can tighten my timings and get some extra points.

 

[Turrican]

how are you changing timings for ram on your video card? im very interested in this, ive read x1600xt uses some high pretty decent performing ram, so im wondering if i can up mine.

hi

you can change your mem-timings in ati-tool. on my screen you see a button called "mem" (in ati-tool). if you click at it, a new menu will popup, in which you can change mem-timings.

but be carefull. don't set them too tight or your pc will freeze. i always change a few settings and then i run 3dmark to check if i get freezes or artifacts. if there are no probs. i save the timings as a new profile in ati-tool

Good Luck

greetings Turrican

 

[Satchmo]

OHHHHHH right, i have x1600xt

says "changeing ram timings is not supported on this chipset."

so either the card itself doesnt support it or changing ram timings with x1600xt isnt supported yet by ati tool.

hopefully its just not supported yet.

So wait why cant you run the CPU test? sudden failure of application mean youve got some major instability. Do you have any issues playing games, like repeated sound effects, or increased animation speeds, artifacts, texture blinking, or crashes/desktop returns?

 

[Azn Tr14dZ]

Wait, how do I take screenshots? I want to post pictures of my scores too? I don't want to be left out

 

[Satchmo]

printscreen then ctrl-v in paint, save as jpeg, then upload.

 

[Turrican]

i've another one for you

8248 points with 670/640 , timings slightly tightened. i think more than 640 with these timings isn't possible.

greetings Turrican

 

[Satchmo]

Just completely reinstalled windows xp, found out i have 4 shady processes running, trojans and grayware....god damn i hate those people.... anyways im now using radeon omega 6.3 based drivers which seem to have upped my score slightly.

 

[Turrican]

Just completely reinstalled windows xp, found out i have 4 shady processes running, trojans and grayware....god damn i hate those people.... anyways im now using radeon omega 6.3 based drivers which seem to have upped my score slightly.

Nice Score Satchmo . keep on ocing i now use the cat 6.3. till today i've used the 5.6 (a little bit old)

greetings Turrican

 

[Satchmo]

well for now my system is at an all time max, if i up anything else, i get slapped with the instability stick, everything right now is running max, CPU, GPU, RAM. the only thing slowed down is my HD via accoustic management. only because its a 8mbps transfer loss, 3ns seek time increase, but now i dont have to listen to all the constant and obnoxious clunking. IMO its worth the loss. the next step would be buy a nother x1600xt for crossfire. but atm i dont need the performance. as all my games run well enough for me to play. 6024 is a nice round score for my system.

 

[Azn Tr14dZ]

Hey guys, I have an Intel Pentium D 820 2.8GHZ @ 3.3GHZ with 1GB DDR2 RAM PC2-3200 in Dual Channel and a Built By ATI Radeon X800 XL @ 438/546 core and memory respectively and I have enhanced memory timings.
I get about 5850-5900 in 3DMark05 Default settings. Is that good for an XL?

 

[intel igent]

Catalyst A.I control can be found under the 3D section if you use the advanced options when you start catayst, im not sure in ATI Tool, but I used Radlinker to adjust my catalyst A.I settings. Hope that helped a little!

thnx

 

[Satchmo]

Hey guys, I have an Intel Pentium D 820 2.8GHZ @ 3.3GHZ with 1GB DDR2 RAM PC2-3200 in Dual Channel and a Built By ATI Radeon X800 XL @ 438/546 core and memory respectively and I have enhanced memory timings.
I get about 5850-5900 in 3DMark05 Default settings. Is that good for an XL?

yeah that seems about right, as the x800 itself is becomeing outdated slightly. kind of sucks your DDR2 isnt providing much twards your 3dmark score, 3dmark is so GPU dependent now.

Have you run a chache/mem benchmark yet, how good is ddr2 compaired to regular?

my cheapo DDR450 @ 2.5,3,3,6T1 is 3333mbps read 3240mbps write.

 

[Tatty_Two]

yeah that seems about right, as the x800 itself is becomeing outdated slightly. kind of sucks your DDR2 isnt providing much twards your 3dmark score, 3dmark is so GPU dependent now.

Have you run a chache/mem benchmark yet, how good is ddr2 compaired to regular?

my cheapo DDR450 @ 2.5,3,3,6T1 is 3333mbps read 3240mbps write.

Hi again, run the memory bandwidth test both of you on Sandra and let me know your bandwidths, my Value Ram (see timings in spec) hits just over 6600 bandwidth which I am told is excellent for value ram.

 

[Azn Tr14dZ]

yeah that seems about right, as the x800 itself is becomeing outdated slightly. kind of sucks your DDR2 isnt providing much twards your 3dmark score, 3dmark is so GPU dependent now.

Have you run a chache/mem benchmark yet, how good is ddr2 compaired to regular?

my cheapo DDR450 @ 2.5,3,3,6T1 is 3333mbps read 3240mbps write.

The XL was a good buy when I got it though. I had an X700 Pro until I RMA'd it and I just added $50 for the XL. Pretty good bang for the buck.

 

[Satchmo]

my motherboard supports dual channel memory, im unfamiliar with the differences tho, i know dual channel is twice as fast bandwidth but do i need dual channel sticks to use it?

can i use dual channel mode with my value ram?

i have 1gb stick and one 512 stick.

 

[Turrican]

you need two sticks with the same size e.g. 2x512, 2x1024,.... for dual channel

as far as i know you can use 2 sticks from different manufactors. it doesn't matter if you have special dual channel ram or value ram, only the size matters ( both the same size).

but it's advised to use a dual kit where both ram are exactly the same.

greetings

 

[Satchmo]

yeah i just ordered another 1gb stick exactly same as the one i have now, 6400mbps sure beats what i got, and 2gb will be nice.

 

[Tatty_Two]

you need two sticks with the same size e.g. 2x512, 2x1024,.... for dual channel

as far as i know you can use 2 sticks from different manufactors. it doesn't matter if you have special dual channel ram or value ram, only the size matters ( both the same size).

but it's advised to use a dual kit where both ram are exactly the same.

greetings

Not strictly true, depends on Motherboard, some are more fussy than others, you are only guaranteed that 2 sticks of the same size and speed will work in dual mode if you buy a "matched pair", that matched pair can be value or premium stuff its a matter of pot luck really if not matched but 2 different manafacturers didnt work on my last motherboard so didnt risk it with this one! bought corsair value and it is fantastic, reasonably tight timings, slightly overclocked with a 6600+ memory bandwidth that some premium sticks find hard to match.