Metro 2033 Optimum Specs: I LOL'D

[EastCoasthandle]

alright these statements are starting to annoy me, such as "game looks 5 years old" AND "game looks dated" AND!!! "game looks Blank years old" heres my question what do you want the game to look like WHAT should it look like, he develop a game engine quick and make something and show me what you think it should look like! jeeeez, i think it looks great, so much crtisism

The game looks like crap to me. I normally flush crap down the toilet. Besides, the word is that this is nothing more then a press release benchmarking app for 400 series. And, for the most part don't include any official spec. that this game was design to also work with ATI cards. Regardless of how it makes you feel the game's graphics are dated. That much has been proven.

However, I do find it amusing that you are so disconnected that you can't see that something is wrong with the system requirements vs what you actually get. Were you have to be annoyed that people clearly see that what you get so far doesn't match at all their own system requirement specs. Compound by the fact that they are using the same IQ from 3 years ago and it will raise an eyebrow or 2.

 

[Marineborn]

well east what do you play then, cause you never know someone might flush the crap you play down the toilet im not saying your not entitled to your views, its just harsh, and how cares about 400 series, its fucking hardware and micro chips and conductors and fairy dust oh my. im glad there releasing more dx11 titles the more that come out the more publicity dx11 gets and therefor the more companies will start making dx11 titles. im excited

 

[EastCoasthandle]

well east what do you play then, cause you never know someone might flush the crap you play down the toilet im not saying your not entitled to your views, its just harsh, and how cares about 400 series, its fucking hardware and micro chips and conductors and fairy dust oh my. im glad there releasing more dx11 titles the more that come out the more publicity dx11 gets and therefor the more companies will start making dx11 titles. im excited

The point being is that:
-system specs appear specious and don't include the use of a ATI card
-this game has been in development of 3+ years using PC hardware that was never part of the recently released system requirement
-many in the know are saying that there is some sort of benchmark demo (whatever) floating about for this game specifically geared as a press release benchmarking tool for the 400 series.
-the graphics are dated and they've not changed in the past 3 years even though the system requirement for the game have.

If they want to alienate the game for specific hardware users when evidence shows it's not needed then by all means they can. But don't think it's odd if people abstain from buying the game.

 

[Marineborn]

The point being is that
-system specs appear specious and don't include the use of a ATI card
-this game has been in development of 3+ years using PC hardware that was never part of the recently released system requirement
-many in the know are saying that there is some sort of benchmark demo (whatever) floating about for this game specifically geared as a press release benchmarking tool for the 400 series.
-the graphics are dated and they've not changed in the past 3 years even though the system requirement for the game have.

If they want to alienate the game for specific hardware users then by all means they can but don't think it's odd if people abstain from buying the game.

i got what your saying bro, maybe they developed a new engine for it, you never know what they did in 3 years. hell duke nuken forever went threw about 15 diffrent engines in 10 years. lol

 

[EastCoasthandle]

i got what your saying bro, maybe they developed a new engine for it, you never know what they did in 3 years. hell duke nuken forever went threw about 15 diffrent engines in 10 years. lol

I as well as others aren't going to accept that when evidence points otherwise. It's one thing to create a game geared towards the enthusiast. It's another when it's spec'd for a specific user.

 

[Marineborn]

hmmm, just cause nvidia threw a little cash there way to mention there card doesnt mean ati wont run it just as good, nvidia is hurting right now for publicitiy and there more worried about marketing then there hardware. so what

 

[EastCoasthandle]

hmmm, just cause nvidia threw a little cash there way to mention there card doesnt mean ati wont run it just as good, nvidia is hurting right now for publicitiy and there more worried about marketing then there hardware. so what

If you believe that then their own specs would include both cards. Also, if someone doesn't have what's required they don't have to offer any support if a user has a problem.

 

[Marineborn]

yeah that is kinda vague and biased but i guess well see what happens when it comes out, im gonna find it hilarous if ati can run it better. i guess only time can tell

 

[EastCoasthandle]

You and me both if that turns out to be the case LOL

 

[1Kurgan1]

wow a game that take advantage of latest hardware is a nice brake from those console ports
now stop whining everyone and go buy a GTX480 and a i7

The latest hardware? You do realize the GTX 270 and GTX 480 aren't even out yet. So when that game launches, it will launch with recommended specs of hardware that isn't even out yet, talk about using the most cutting edge current hardware, the hardware of the future!

If you believe that then their own specs would include both cards. Also, if someone doesn't have what's required they don't have to offer any support if a user has a problem.

Not really, I've seen specs with just 1 company on them numerous times, Nvidia the way it's meant to be played. Age of Conan comes to mind, here was the release min and recommended specs for their game

Minimum configuration (1024x768, detail reduced)
OS: Windows XP Service Pack 2 or Windows Vista
Processor: Intel Pentium 4 3Ghz or equivalent
RAM: 1GB
Video card: NVIDIA GeForce 6600 or better
Video memory: 128MB
DVD-ROM: Quad-speed (4x) DVD-ROM drive
HARD DRIVE SPACE: 30GB

Recommended configuration (Up to 1280X960, most features on)
OS: Windows XP SP 2 or Windows Vista
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4GHz or equivalent
RAM: 2048MB Dual Channel DDR2
Video card: NVIDIA GeForce 7900 GTX or equivalent
Video memory: 512MB
DVD-ROM: Quad-speed (4x) DVD-ROM drive
HARD DRIVE SPACE: 30GB

Not a single mention of an ATI card, and I played that at launch with dual 3870's and destroyed that game maxed out, almost always 100+ fps. When people pay money, especially like NV does, things get left out, good example is Assassins Creed for PC, that was a DX10.1 game, and oops NV had decided to jump that ship and never go 10.1, they threw a fit since the game was a NV game and it was patched to be DX10 only, there was a bunch of other excuses tossed around, but we all know end of the story even if it was made offical.

 

[EastCoasthandle]

Not really, I've seen specs with just 1 company on them numerous times, Nvidia the way it's meant to be played. Age of Conan comes to mind, here was the release min and recommended specs for their game

Not a single mention of an ATI card, and I played that at launch with dual 3870's and destroyed that game maxed out, almost always 100+ fps. When people pay money, especially like NV does, things get left out, good example is Assassins Creed for PC, that was a DX10.1 game, and oops NV had decided to jump that ship and never go 10.1, they threw a fit since the game was a NV game and it was patched to be DX10 only, there was a bunch of other excuses tossed around, but we all know end of the story even if it was made offical.

Do to my opinion of this game I don't find your example relevant. Let me explain why:
-You are dealing with 2 different developers with 2 mindsets. Now had it been from the same development team would I find it credible to believe that it's just marketing. However, because this is a new development team with no previous history I will stick to my opinion of them at this time.

-I do understand what you are trying to convey here. However, attempting to reference what one developer did for one game with what another developer is doing with another game becomes a bit of stretch for me to believe (Funcom didn't put an unannounced product as part of their spec for example). Specially when the intent implies no specific support for hardware not included in their own specs.

This is why I don't see the similarities in your example (because we are dealing with different developers, etc).

 

[Marineborn]

east THQ isnt a new company

 

[EastCoasthandle]

I didn't mention THQ. The developers for this game is 4A Games. THQ is the publisher. 4A Games is a derivative from GSC Game World who helped create X-Ray engine which is used in the Stalker series. Which explains why the game looks exactly like Stalker even though they 4A Games calls their engine 4A Engine.

 

[AphexDreamer]

I didn't mention THQ. The developers for this game is 4A Games. THQ is the publisher. 4A Games is a derivative from GSC Game World who helped create X-Ray engine which is used in the Stalker series. Which explains why the game looks exactly like Stalker even though they 4A Games calls their engine 4A Engine.

I actually mention this on page 1. Which is why I hope there engine is multi core optimized.

 

[pantherx12]

Dear TPU.

Optimal hardware is not the same as a requirement

Requirements will be less, how ever to get the BEST out the game that's what you need.

Its completely different.

 

[Bjorn_Of_Iceland]

And with the game's featured tesselation effect, and with the rumored GTX480 tesselation performance... they must have benched it on both a cypres and an nv card..

 

[Frick]

Meh, I just think it's a marketing thing. Of course the game will run fine on a system like that, but I assume it will run just as good on a Phenom 2 quaddie and a high end Ati card. Everything else would be epic fail.

 

[KainXS]

Thats minimum

* Dual core CPU (any Core 2 Duo or better will do)
* DirectX 9, Shader Model 3 compliant graphics cards (GeForce 8800, GeForce GT220 and above)
* 1GB RAM

Thats Reccomended
* Any Quad Core or 3.0+ GHz Dual Core CPU
* DirectX 10 compliant graphics card (GeForce GTX 260 and above)
* 2GB RAM

and Optimum
* Core i7 CPU
* NVIDIA DirectX 11 compliant graphics card (GeForce GTX 480 and 470)
* As much RAM as possible (8GB+)
* Fast HDD or SSD

I think Optimum is added only for super high end multi display gaming and they probably haven't tested with ATI yet since ATI has no TWIMTBP program.

 

[pantherx12]

Thank you Kain, see folks, not so bad is it.

Makes me wish i kept my other 4 gb of ram though ( just to see potential difference in performance)

 

[EastCoasthandle]

It was already known what the min and recommended specs posts are. It was the optimal settings that's the discussion because most enthusiast (with enthusiast hardware) prefer to run their games as intended from the developer. Specially a game that was showing youtube videos during a time that some of the hardware mentioned today simply wasn't common or available yet.

 

[erocker]

It was already known what the min and recommended specs posts are. It was the optimal settings that's the discussion because most enthusiast (with enthusiast hardware) prefer to run their games as intended from the developer. Specially a game that was showing youtube videos during a time that some of the hardware mentioned today simply wasn't common or available yet.

I say bring it! I like games like this because they don't happen very often. Recent history has Far Cry-->Oblivion-->Crysis. You could throw FarCry 2 in there but when people talk about benchmarks it's all about "Can it play Crysis?" Perhaps this game will take the throne away.

 

[douglatins]

I say bring it! I like games like this because they don't happen very often. Recent history has Far Cry-->Oblivion-->Crysis. You could throw FarCry 2 in there but when people talk about benchmarks it's all about "Can it play Crysis?" Perhaps this game will take the throne away.

Dang how i love this game, though i never finished the mq

 

[AddSub]

Let me then preempt the super-special 4chan squadron on the internets and be the first to utter the following: Can it play Metr....umm, can't do it. Must be all this brain matter between my ears that is getting in my way. Maybe if I get a forced lobotomy procedure or something I might be able to finish that sentence.

Seriously though, as far as Fermi is concerned what happened was either nVidia put some early engineering samples/prototypes of Fermi hardware in the hands of Metro developers which is not unusual since such things happen fairly often in the industry, OR nVidia simply spent some decent amount of dinero and got Metro devs and their publisher THQ to make sure Metro is a true TWIMTBP in all the ways possible (wink wink).

Either way I got no problem with it. I already got a i7 running and I'm planning a Fermi SLI upgrade, so "Optimum Specs"...whatever.

 

[Champ]

that's what the fuck is up. Time to kill the comparing consoles to PCs. You could breed a 360 and PS3 and the offspring still wouldn't play this game.

 

[Bjorn_Of_Iceland]

something like:

minimum > Standard console crapics
Recomended > SSAO on, Detailed Shadows,
Optimum > Tesellation and other D3d 11 function calls on.

Such rendering features can be applied on an engine provided it was coded with a good framework. (say back in 2007, engine only has a rendering path of minimum),.. and was then appended with other rendering features overtime.

But yeah, that optimal settings can be sliced by a 5970 even with tesselation on.. probly just an NV marketting strat to prep up and pump up the hype of their GTX400. They needed a vessel of some sort.. kinda like what first appearance consoles do with their release titles.. pump it up and have a mutual benefit of some kind. They chose Metro and thats that. End result, people will still be able to play it. heh.