Microsoft announces next-generation Xbox One console(uses windows kernel))

[natr0n]

Microsoft announced its next-generation Xbox One gaming console at a press event held at its Redmond, Wash., headquarters Tuesday morning, finally revealing the device that's been the subject of rampant rumors and speculation for months.

http://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-announces-next-generation-xbox-one-console

Microsoft announced that the Xbox One will run on the Windows kernel and that now means that Microsoft has that platform running on phones, tablets, laptops, servers, and now the Xbox.

http://www.neowin.net/news/xbox-one-uses-the-windows-kernal-completes-the-ecosystem

 

[Jaffakeik]

NO to XBOX anyway,but still will look how it unfolds

 

[Frick]

It has transistors, and plenty of them!

It will also have USB 3.0, WiFi N, 500GB HDD (which was "designed in-house", whatever that means), Blu-Ray, and it is connected to Azure, which I think is the most interesting thing. They even tell of MP matches with 64 and 128 players. Chunk off processing stuff to the cloud?

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2013/05/xbox-one#hardware

 

[KainXS]

sony did not reveal their console but ms did huh, I really like some of the features over the PS4 as they seem like things I would use myself, the tv integration is something I would use the PS4 share nonsense is something I would not.

The downside though, . . . . . the games, not much on the gaming side was revealed, there was some ea sports, Forza, and cod ghosts and some other game I did not care about but they did say many more titles would be at E3 anyway.

5 billion transistors did take me by surprise also.

 

[Deleted member 24505]

Here's a MOBO pic-

Looks pretty sweet to me.

 

[KainXS]

looks like its an AMD apu for sure then, jaguar it is.

 

[erocker]

It runs Windows... So, it's a PC.

 

[BiggieShady]

Too bad for console gamers that used games will be limited - games are tied to live account and m$ needs some $ to "untie" them although once registered, you can play offline ... much like on the PC ... not always online, but no internet - no game install

 

[Jaffakeik]

sony did not reveal their console but ms did huh, I really like some of the features over the PS4 as they seem like things I would use myself, the tv integration is something I would use the PS4 share nonsense is something I would not.

The downside though, . . . . . the games, not much on the gaming side was revealed, there was some ea sports, Forza, and cod ghosts and some other game I did not care about but they did say many more titles would be at E3 anyway.

5 billion transistors did take me by surprise also.

FOr consoles i care only gaming evolution,dont care about integrated TV,size of HDD,or whatever there is more for goodies

 

[Deleted member 24505]

looks like its an AMD apu for sure then, jaguar it is.

A single 40-nanometer chip contains both the CPU and GPU rather than the two dedicated 90-nm chips needed in the 360. In fact, a custom SOC (system on a chip) module made by AMD contains the CPU/GPU chip, the memory, the controller logic, the DRAM, and the audio processors, and connects directly to the heat sink via a phase-change interface material. Whew.

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2013/05/xbox-one#hardware

 

[15th Warlock]

It has transistors, and plenty of them!

http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/8gb1.jpg

It will also have USB 3.0, WiFi N, 500GB HDD (which was "designed in-house", whatever that means), Blu-Ray, and it is connected to Azure, which I think is the most interesting thing. They even tell of MP matches with 64 and 128 players. Chunk off processing stuff to the cloud?

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2013/05/xbox-one#hardware

5 billion transistors... that says nothing about the actual performance of the chip, this and Sony's blurry shots of the PS4 says nothing to me other than console manufacturers are trolling us at this point :shadedshu

EDIT:

A single 40-nanometer chip contains both the CPU and GPU rather than the two dedicated 90-nm chips needed in the 360. In fact, a custom SOC (system on a chip) module made by AMD contains the CPU/GPU chip, the memory, the controller logic, the DRAM, and the audio processors, and connects directly to the heat sink via a phase-change interface material. Whew.

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2013/05/xbox-one#hardware

So 5 billion transistors including embeded RAM? That's even worst than I thought if at all true, even current GPUs from AMD and Nvidia utilize a higher transistor count for the GPU die alone, this can't be right

EDIT 2: you can clearly see the DRAM modules around the APU in the shot of the mobo you posted, so that transistor count is for the APU only, I was begining to think MS had gone with a Wii U class CPU

it seems both the XBOX and the PS4 will be on pretty much equal standing in terms of relative performance once they are released

 

[insane 360]

i have a 360 slim right now, though i really don't see me upgrading to either the ps4 or the xbox one anytime soon. more than likely this will just push me back to the htpc/gaming box in my living room...

thanks for the pics and links though

 

[natr0n]

I'm excited for more games on PC since this is basically a PC based console. There is no excuse now not to have PC versions. They can no longer lie either about "porting" since there is nothing to port anymore.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

A single 40-nanometer chip contains both the CPU and GPU rather than the two dedicated 90-nm chips needed in the 360. In fact, a custom SOC (system on a chip) module made by AMD contains the CPU/GPU chip, the memory, the controller logic, the DRAM, and the audio processors, and connects directly to the heat sink via a phase-change interface material. Whew.

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2013/05/xbox-one#hardware

Thats a bit shit, so the rumours of a dgpu were off then, over a ps4, that dgpu was the only bit keeping my attention on the nextbox tut.

 

[KainXS]

I'm excited for more games on PC since this is basically a PC based console. There is no excuse now not to have PC versions. They can no longer lie either about "porting" since there is nothing to port anymore.

kinda true but their will always be lazy developers here and there that still pull that out.

Another matter is that since both the 360 and PS4 now use(for sure) AMD APU's, nintendo will have to really grab out to third party devs and publishers.:shadedshu

 

[remixedcat]

No 802.11ac WiFi??? And calling it Xbox one is gonna confuse a lot of people because the original Xbox is often called Xbox 1. Also most people are saying it won't drive a 4k display.

Good on the use of Windows kernel and the huge multiplayer matches.

 

[Delta6326]

I watched the reveal it was meh, I really dislike the name Xbox One... it's the third one! I get what they tried, but I think many people will get confused. I will buy a Xbox One just for Forza 5, but they do seem to have moved more towards family entertainment than gaming.

Loads of pics. http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2013/05/xbox-one-photos/?viewall=true

I like some of the prototypes more than the final layout and it looks like they have a seagate HD, and than fan looks poorly designed only 5 large blades hope its quite.

 

[_JP_]

500GB HDD (which was "designed in-house", whatever that means)

I probably means you can't just take it off and slap on any other 2.5'' SATA HDD and continue rocking on with more space.
Which was already the case with the xbox 360, I think, but due to the firmware being in it...not some architectural/design thing.

 

[LAN_deRf_HA]

Games will be at E3. What they showed was much more impressive than I expected. Stuff I can actually use vs the PS4's facebook bullshit. Sooo much money to be saved on the cable bill with this thing. It'll be interesting to see what kinda of gaming can be done with kinect now that it's instant response and higher res.

 

[_JP_]

Also most people are saying it won't drive a 4k display.

If today's high-tier cards sweat to run games at that resolution, what makes you think an equivalent to a current entry-level chip could do it?

 

[KainXS]

I probably means you can't just take it off and slap on any other 2.5'' SATA HDD and continue rocking on with more space.
Which was already the case with the xbox 360, I think, but due to the firmware being in it...not some architectural/design thing.

If I remember with the 360 you needed to use certain WD hdd's flashed or something on the Fat models, not too sure about the slims. I would say their might be different models with different drive sizes but it looks pretty unlikely.

 

[Frag_Maniac]

This is all hard to digest/translate if they don't give any graphics power specs. It's said that Sony's PS4 has equivalent to 7850 GPU power. Some have said MS' unit will be graphically weaker, some say more powerful. They need to be more specific on these details.

 

[bpgt64]

I don't think it will be capable of driving a 4k display at all, what I find interested is the increase in Xbox Live servers. It's like they want to be OnLine.

 

[LAN_deRf_HA]

I like this shot. Simultaneously shows off a great tech feat. (shredding rubber) while still showing how far we have yet to go (sharp poly edges on the bumper.) Also I think from now on we should refer to it as the Xbone. Saying xbox "one" is just aggravating and reeks of Wii "U" levels of stupidity.

 

[Ravenas]

Horrible name but the console has lots of potential. I predict the PS4 will provide even more competition this generation.