Right, sorry you were wanting 10.5.x. Oh well. Its at my sister's place, running that license. So I guess that means I've been using 0 illegally? Thanks for the bold showing of concern. I'm glad they dropped PPC. It was a bad processor. However if someone still has a PPC, as they wouldn't have been able to buy an Intel Mac when 10.0 came out, they'd have had to pay just the same. Or is 10.4 and 10.5 not backwards compatible to PPC. I don't know. If it isn't then Mac just forced them to update their hardware. Dandy, but its ok Windows does that too.