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Microsoft Pulls a Fast One with E3 Xbox One Demos

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#76
Proof of what? That Sony used actual Dev Kits, well they said so. Proof that Sony's Dev Kits are close to the final spec of the product? Look at dev kits, that is what they are, close to the final product.
Sega had Dev Kits for the Dreamcast hardware in the day, consoles are nothing more than what smart phones are- firmware based hardware
 
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#77
These demo units look nothing like the final Xbone hardware, for a console that's supposed to be released in less than 5 months this is beyond preposterous.

Saying that MS didn't have time to put together demo units utilizing actual Xbone hardware at this point in the console development cycle shows nothing but utter misunderstanding of how these consoles were developed.

For simple reference, xbox 360 was released in 2006, and chances are MS immediately started working on the successor at some level immediately after its release. Do the math, that's almost 7 years from today.

To also suggest that MS would rent PCs from a third party doesn't make any sense at all, this is MS we are talking about, they are 100% involved in both the hardware and software for this console, why risk failure by renting equipment from a third party for such an important event so close to release date?

The fact that MS used such powerful hardware to demo their games, doesn’t bode well at all for the Xbone, this can only mean they are not confident enough in the performance of the hardware just a few months from release, at this point any hardware specifications are set in stone and MS must have already ordered parts from all the manufacturers to start assembly of the actual consoles before final packaging and shipping , either that or they'll just release a few units in November...
 
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#78
wow....i see damage controll from pr firms gittin busy:laugh:
 

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#79
Well after watching the video below these systems might of been connected to the xbox 1 as i understand it.. Although imo ignore the supposed most wanted to know answers to peoples questions till near the end of the video were the xbox 1 actually have a HDMI input which allows to devices to be used.

Although their example while watching TV or a film you could get messages disturbing your well loved movie lol.

So just maybe there was a xbox 1 hooked up to them too ?..

/r/Games interview with Xbox Live's Major Nels...
 
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#80
I would rather think that maybe, just maybe, this is Microsoft's way of accepting that PC gaming is better? LOL


But then again they released Windows 8...But then again they crippled the Xbone...hmmmm....lol
 
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#81
Lame...
That is all....
 
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I've never been to E3... and maybe its just a code showoff... but they are using hardware that is 3x the power of what this software will actually run on.

And lets face it, MS is on a roll. Lately they make shit OSes and they make shitty phones and tablets... is it really that much of a stretch to imagine that they will make a shitty console? Will we all be surprised when the XB1 is just absolutely terrible?

I almost feel bad for the marketing guys:

"HERE MAKE PEOPLE WANT THIS!"

"But, sir, these are dog feces"

"TELL THEM THAT THEY WANT IT AND THAT THEY PREFER IT OVER GOOGLE"

"But, sir, no one wants this, especially over Google!!!"

"DO IT, AND THEN TELL THEM THAT THEY CAN STILL DO THE THINGS THEY DID WITH THE START MENU WITH ONLY 13 MORE CLICKS AND SOME TYPING!!!"

"Sir, please, have a snickers!!!"

"PUT METRO AND BING ON EVERYTHING! LET ALL THE ELECTRONICS FEEL THE WRATH OF METRO!!! AND BING! AND CUT THE POWER OF THE CONSOLES BY 1/3, AND DON'T LET THEM PLAY GAMES UNLESS WE ALLOW IT! DO THIS --- AND MAKE THEM BUY IT!!!"
I read this in a "Hitler Reacts to.." kind of way.
 
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#83
this just shows that u can build ur own xbox one, if microsoft will release the software that works on Windows 7 :laugh:
 
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#84
Linus also talked about this issue in his June 14th live stream. http://youtu.be/0GwurgaAIQg?t=24m7s Fast-forwarded to the issue.
I thought you meant THE Linus, the one with his name ending in Torvalds. Now if it was him then everyone would've listened. In this case its just some dude with a youtube channel, and the point stands. They used hardware that was far from representative of what would be in the final console.
 
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#85
why would they use a pricy, sexy corsair case if it was supposed to be hidden ???!!! :O
 
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#86
this just shows that u can build ur own xbox one, if microsoft will release the software that works on Windows 7 :laugh:
Why on earth would you want to?
 
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I thought you meant THE Linus, the one with his name ending in Torvalds. Now if it was him then everyone would've listened. In this case its just some dude with a youtube channel, and the point stands. They used hardware that was far from representative of what would be in the final console.
Did you even watch the video? Well, maybe he is not as smart as the Linus Torvalds, but he is sure as hell smarter than most people in this thread, me included. No offense. :toast:
 
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Why on earth would you want to?
well u can build a cheaper and faster computer than the Xbox One in the first place so why not? :laugh:
 
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Skulltrail and x-bones. Hilarious. Intel and nV power games. :pimp:
 

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Console monkeys. Hilarious!
 
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#93
So wait,.......

The display above the case showing the Windows 7 desktop wasn't a clue as to what was under the hood,......?

Pffffft,...

Its not like they had an Xbox One under each display with faux wires coming out of it to fake a connection,.....

Much ado about nothing,....
 

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#94
So wait,.......

The display above the case showing the Windows 7 desktop wasn't a clue as to what was under the hood,......?

Pffffft,...

Its not like they had an Xbox One under each display with faux wires coming out of it to fake a connection,.....

Much ado about nothing,....
He quit the game (probably to check out the new home screen), saw a Windows 7 desktop instead, got curious, opened the cupboard.
 
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#95
it would have been nice if infinium labs waited and launched now with the rest of these pc's, they might have actually been better off.(might have died still though)

I was hoping sega would pull out a console this E3 with the spectrum(I know . . . . . . . yeah) but its probably going to be an arcade board or engine but on that sega's newest current arcade is nothing but glorified proprietary gaming pc's now also with a 2500K and GTX560Ti.
 
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#96
I dont care if this is usual or not, but its irrelevant.
You cant deny the bad PR, this doesn't look good for MS.
If they at least used amd systems they could release a note stating that it was similar spec hardware. But using a card that is clearly a titan (the gtx780 came too close to e3), looks bad
 
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#97
Here is the problem, MS is having issues with Windows 8, office upgrades etc. They are offering a console with less, for more. Who wants to use restricted software/hardware when even Sony opened up the terms. I have to log into the internet every day like asking Mommy, can I play it now?
I bought the darn thing, I get to pay $60 a game and they treat you like this "before release." I am the customer, It is not a privilege to buy this. MS needs to hire some people with ethics and an A-game. For all the restrictions I expect a console that would blow the socks off the competition.

This turd has to last around 8-10 years...... Are you confident it will? Are you willing to own all your games for 10 years and not want to show them to your friends or give your old games as a gift?
 
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#98
PC gaming costs $200.

The average household already has a ~$300 desktop. Mate that with a $200 GTX 660 or HD 7870, and buy a $25 wireless gamepad if you must; plug it to your TV over HDMI. Sure, that PC will bottleneck the card, but it would still be faster than any next-gen console.
You and I both know that's total nonsense. The XboxGoHome seems like a very, very compromised (some might say crippled design), so the jury's out ... but as far as the PS4 is concerned, a title properly coded for and optimised (and preferably going direct to metal or using very low level APIs) will blow any PC game out of the water at 1920x1080, regardless of what hardware it's running (Titans in SLI or whatever). You sacrifice most of your performance budget for universal compatibility, high level APIs and the engine sitting on top of a massively bloated desktop OS. First party Sony titles for the first couple of years should look way better than any PC game on any hardware.
 

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#99
First party Sony titles for the first couple of years should look way better than any PC game on any hardware.
Normally I don't comment on peoples opinions, but this is so far out there:
absolute rubbish....on "any" hardware?! :roll: If you really had any notion of what high-level pc hardware actually is, you would not make such a statement. Unbelievable......
 
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Normally I don't comment on peoples opinions, but this is so far out there:
absolute rubbish....on "any" hardware?! :roll: If you really had any notion of what high-level pc hardware actually is, you would not make such a statement. Unbelievable......
You clearly have absolutely no notion whatsoever of how coding or hardware actually work. If there were PC games made and optimised solely for the current cream of the crop, and using some kind of lower level API (like Glide used to be), then sure they'd beat the PS4. But this will never happen, because it would be impossible for the developers to recoup development costs because of the miniscule potential market for games like this.

Why do you think the kind of lighting, detail and enormous size of environment seen in the Killzone engine footage are several orders of magnitude greater than any 7850 (roughly equivalent to PS4 graphical power) could ever hope to render at more than 1 or 2FPS, if ported to the PC?

Comparing base specs of PCs and consoles is apples and oranges .. they're not the same at all.