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Microsoft Won't be Profiting from the Xbox One X's $499 Price Point

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I hope they sort there MS store out as Game Stop only wants to sell pre owned and even lie about only having pre owned for the better profits.

In fact it's a real shame that MS, SONY and Nintendo cannot sue them or some thing for the shit.

Not as any of it matters to me as i will not pay the monthly fee's.
 
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But has more GCN units than a 580.
While true Tflops are quite the same as RX 580 so if it would be graphics card on PC it could not touch gtx1070. But being console games can be optimized better, which matter the most.
 

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But has more GCN units than a 580.
It is underclocked when compared performance will be similar to the 580.
 
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On the other hand, R&D costs are probably distributed evenly over estimated production volumes for the first 2-3 years - and is by far the biggest single expense per chip, considering the hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars chip development costs. In other words, it'll be a while until production costs drop to the point you're describing.
Is there any documentation showing that Microsoft (and/or Sony) are footing the bill for AMD's R&D costs?
 

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Is there any documentation showing that Microsoft (and/or Sony) are footing the bill for AMD's R&D costs?
Yes. Because there's absolutely no R&D to speak of in a console, besides the GPU. :rolleyes:
 
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Yes. Because there's absolutely no R&D to speak of in a console, besides the GPU. :rolleyes:
It's not like there's an AMD CPU in there too, right ( :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:)? I'm only curious as to the sources for these claims.
 
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They said it will even look better on a 1080p tv my Xbox one s looks grate but is the Xbox one x be even better

This is due to them using AA and Virtual resolution Blowing the image up to UHD then shrinking it to your screens demensions which in affect makes your TV a UHD TV. It is not as crisp as a real 4K TV but it will help reduce some jaggies and will overall look better than standard Xbox One 1080p.
 
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Is there any documentation showing that Microsoft (and/or Sony) are footing the bill for AMD's R&D costs?
Considering that the chips are "semi-custom", it would be utterly baffling if R&D wasn't a part of the price customers pay for the chips. Or do you expect AMD to just swallow that cost and sell the chips at a fixed dollar price, regardless of the work? The only R&D costs AMD have for these chips come from following the wishes of the customer in designing the made-to-order semi-custom SoCs. As such, the customer pays for R&D. Simple logic.
 
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Considering that the chips are "semi-custom", it would be utterly baffling if R&D wasn't a part of the price customers pay for the chips. Or do you expect AMD to just swallow that cost and sell the chips at a fixed dollar price, regardless of the work? The only R&D costs AMD have for these chips come from following the wishes of the customer in designing the made-to-order semi-custom SoCs. As such, the customer pays for R&D. Simple logic.
I don't know any specifics for these contracts and that's why I asked. Such is the purpose of asking a question.
 
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