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My computer keeps crashing while In game, Is my PSU bad ?

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System Name The Midranger
Processor Ryzen 7 2700
Motherboard ASUS PRIME X570-P
Cooling Cooler Master HYPER 212
Memory 16Gb corsair vengeance LPS 3000Mhz
Video Card(s) powercolor Rx 580 red dragon 8Gb
Storage 1TB Nvme ssd
Display(s) acer KG241Q 83HZ/OC 1080p
Case Cooler master ultra 2007
Power Supply Corsair VENGEANCE 650M
The question is in the title
 
Looking at your specs, it could be that the motherboard simply cannot handle that FX-8350 properly, the VRM overheats and shuts down to prevent damage. Also, that power supply is not of good quality and I would replace it in any way possible, even if it doesn't create this particular issue.
If money is tight I would try to somehow provide some airflow over the VRM portion of the motherboard, but do note that this could only be a temporary solution.
 
I've been using it for 3 months and It first started doing that yesterday. When I'm playing the screen turns black but the sound keeps playing for a few seconds, than nothing
 
Is your computer room climate controlled? That is, are your ambient (room) temps higher now than 3 months ago?

Is the case interior clean of heat trapping dust? Are all fans spinning up fine?

It could be a failing PSU and I certainly would swap in a known good PSU before spending money on any thing else. But this also could be heat related. You might try blasting a desk fan into the open side of the case and see if it holds.
 
No the temp is the same

side door open

fans are fine

The vrm is having a constant airflow of fresh air
 
side door open
I didn't say side door open, I said blasting a desk fan in the open side. Running a computer with the side panel removed can actually hinder air flow and degrade cooling.
 
i dont think heat is the problem, because when i restarted my computer it said that surge protector protected my pc
 
The temps here in May range from high 50s to mid 70s with a rare day in 80s... in the dog days of August ...10 days in the 90s are not at all rare.

What does event viewer say is causing the crashes ?

What are CPU / GPU temps and voltages ?

After taking the side panel off ... grab a high CFM desk fan and blow air in at the components at the highest setting
 
what kinds of crashing, like blue screen or what types of games.
It could be the graphics cards, you said crashes whiling gaming.
 
It is
What does event viewer say is causing the crashes ?




It Isn't specified

what kinds of crashing, like blue screen or what types of games.
It could be the graphics cards, you said crashes whiling gaming.
Black screen, like if the video signal was lost or something

Damn it, i know why, my fans were stuck a 35 % instead of my custom fan curve
 
It is

It Isn't specified


Black screen, like if the video signal was lost or something

Damn it, i know why, my fans were stuck a 35 % instead of my custom fan curve
Even if the fans where at 35%, the graphics would surely throttle down if its overheating.
 
i dont think heat is the problem, because when i restarted my computer it said that surge protector protected my pc
You are right that the surge protection feature has nothing to do with heat, but that message does "not" rule out heat as a problem.

However, back to the surge protection message, frankly, we have found here that the ASUS Surge Protection feature often causes more problems than it is worth for some users. It just has too many false positives triggering a shut down when unnecessary. The feature has been around for several years. Typically, if one maker comes up with a good feature, other makers quickly follow suit. Yet pretty sure Gigabyte, MSI, and other motherboard makers have not implemented their own version of this feature. That suggests to me they have not found it worthwhile, or in demand either.

Still, it cannot simply be ignored because it certainly can indicate a failing power supply. So again, back to my first post above and you need to find, beg or borrow a known good supply to swap in there and see if the problem remains, or goes away.
The temps here in May range from high 50s to mid 70s with a rare day in 80s... in the dog days of August ...10 days in the 90s are not at all rare.
Which is totally immaterial. I suspect you are not the OP's roommate or next door neighbor. And besides, we still don't know if the computer room is air conditioned or not - which is why I asked if the room is climate controlled.

Edit comment: added critical omitted word, "not" to my first sentence.
 
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i dont think heat is the problem, because when i restarted my computer it said that surge protector protected my pc

Your psu is bad

You are right that the surge protection feature has nothing to do with heat, but that message does rule out heat as a problem.

However, back to the surge protection message, frankly, we have found here that the ASUS Surge Protection feature often causes more problems than it is worth for some users. It just has too many false positives triggering a shut down when unnecessary. The feature has been around for several years. Typically, if one maker comes up with a good feature, other makers quickly follow suit. Yet pretty sure Gigabyte, MSI, and other motherboard makers have not implemented their own version of this feature. That suggests to me they have not found it worthwhile, or in demand either.

Still, it cannot simply be ignored because it certainly can indicate a failing power supply. So again, back to my first post above and you need to find, beg or borrow a known good supply to swap in there and see if the problem remains, or goes away.

Which is totally immaterial. I suspect you are not the OP's roommate or next door neighbor. And besides, we still don't know if the computer room is air conditioned or not - which is why I asked if the room is climate controlled.
 
Rather than only editing my last post (which I did too) and the change be missed, my fingers failed to type what my mind wanted - I meant to say that surge message does "not" rule out heat as the problem. It just makes heat less likely the problem. The primary suspect remains your PSU.

That said, severe surges and spikes coming off the power grid are often not totally suppressed by power supplies - even top quality supplies. A "good" UPS with AVR can help with dirty power - much more so than a surge and spike protector (which, BTW, wear out and need to be regularly replaced!).

Also, a damaged or improperly wall outlet can introduce (or fail to block) power anomalies too. So every home and every computer user should have access to a AC Outlet Tester to ensure your outlet is properly wired and grounded to Earth ground. I recommend one with a GFCI (ground fault circuit interrupt) indicator as it can be used to test bathroom and kitchen outlets (outlets near water) too. These testers can be found for your type and voltage outlet, foreign or domestic, (like this one for the UK) at most home improvement stores, or even the electrical department at Wal-Mart. Use it to test all the outlets in the home and if a fault is shown, have it fixed by a qualified electrician.
 
Idk If this usefull, But In event viewer ither was a bugcheck code called kernel power 41
 
Idk If this usefull, But In event viewer ither was a bugcheck code called kernel power 41

That's power supply.

Replace it with a Seasonic or Superflower based unit and press on
 
I finaly opted for a corsair vengeance 650m , as it was the only one available near me
 
it can be set on single rail
 
130467


You better make sure you set it that way, multi rails are dinosaurs.
 
mine is a vengeance silver 650m

130468
 
Doesnt matter if it is silver or bronze, gold, copper, platinum, titanium, multi rail is ridiculous for todays hardware-not enough current, set it to single rail.
 
i already set it to single
it's 54amps compared to 30 amps for multiple
 
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