My GPU dying? Constant shadow flicker in Valheim and a few other games.

Chomiq · Mar 9, 2021

ne6togadno said:
r-t-b didnt mention anything about those artefacts so it could be something that came from screenshot tool he used.
or he was so focused on shadows that he missed the artefacts.
but those artefacts could be related to cross vendor bios that he used rather then problem with memory itself.
until we are sure about gpu model and that correct bios is flashed we cant make conclusions for the memory status.

From what I saw in some youtube footage the game has square particle emitters that could produce such effect.

INSTG8R · Mar 9, 2021

ne6togadno said:
r-t-b dint mention anything about those artefacts so it could be something that came from screenshot tool he used.
or he was so focused on shadows that he missed the artefacts.
but those artefacts could be related to cross vendor bios that he used rather then problem with memory itself.
until we are sure about gpu model and that correct bios is flashed we cant make conclusions for the memory status.

Well all his issues point to it being the VRAM whether it’s a bad BIOS or overheating there‘s something wrong with the VRAM. Hopefully its not permanent damage and the right BIOS or reducing the temps will correct it. He’s improved it at least so he’s on the right track.

ne6togadno · Mar 9, 2021

Chomiq said:
From what I saw in some youtube footage the game has square particle emitters that could produce such effect.

yes it can with raindrops and snowflakes but those are visible when they are at very close to the character range.
some of the boxes are at the walls of the building far enough from the char to look like this.
r-t-b has to look in game not only for shadows but for such artefacts too.

INSTG8R · Mar 9, 2021

Mussels said:
valheims textures can be like that, its early access
player textures make minecraft look detailed (while other aspects that are complete, look amazing)

the white lines are wind, the white boxes are rainddrops bouncing. Thats regular valheim graphics (again, early access)

Chomiq said:
From what I saw in some youtube footage the game has square particle emitters that could produce such effect.

See that’s actually helpful, as I said it’s not the best game to be testing with in its current state. So maybe he did actually fix it.

Vayra86 · Mar 9, 2021

INSTG8R said:
So you can repro it with something else, sounds like the VRAM is on the outs. The VRAM cooling isn’t great apparently and probably not helping...

No way, an EVGA card with shoddy VRAM cooling? We've NEVER heard that before...

They never learn do they

delshay · Mar 9, 2021

Mussels said:
valheims textures can be like that, its early access
player textures make minecraft look detailed (while other aspects that are complete, look amazing)

the white lines are wind, the white boxes are rainddrops bouncing. Thats regular valheim graphics (again, early access)

Your right. But why is RTB showing this game as a problem with his GFX card. He should be showing a game we all know that has zero problems. You can't diagnose a hardware problem with beta software.

Vayra86 · Mar 9, 2021

R-T-B said:
This is more like the entirety of the scene drawing shadows in random places depending where I look. There really is no rhyme or reason to it

Are your shadows 'lingering' as in, janking the viewport or isometric perspective around causes them to stay stuck to objects on the screen?

I've solved quite a few of those problems with game updates and drivers.

NOTE TO SELF: READ TMFT

Glad you fixed it

INSTG8R · Mar 9, 2021

delshay said:
Your right. But why is RTB showing this game as a problem with his GFX card. He should be showing a game we all know that has zero problems.

THIS!

DeathtoGnomes · Mar 9, 2021

Mussels said:
valheims textures can be like that, its early access
player textures make minecraft look detailed (while other aspects that are complete, look amazing)

the white lines are wind, the white boxes are rainddrops bouncing. Thats regular valheim graphics (again, early access)

I can not play Valheim for very long because I cant stand the cheap graphics.

INSTG8R · Mar 9, 2021

Vayra86 said:
He reproduced it in synthetics, or at least, has odd behaviour there as well. So might still be driver related...

We also can't say hardware is flawless either, yet, I think.

Yeah and well we never saw a “before” either but apparently what we saw was “better” but yeah I’d prefer a different test example like Port Royale , something repeatable/comparable

delshay · Mar 9, 2021

The game is "early access".. If you have a problem with this game, would it not be better to post the problem in the steam thread so that developers can see & fix it. ..if it's a common problem.

The title of this thread say's "a few other games" ..Like to know what other games are showing problems.

ne6togadno · Mar 9, 2021

delshay said:
Like to know what other games are showing problems.

R-T-B said:
The three games I have been able to reproduce it with are Valheim, Kerbal Space Program, and the Port Royal benchmark.

delshay · Mar 9, 2021

Thanks. I can now take my time & read the steam thread to see if there are any problems.

DeathtoGnomes · Mar 9, 2021

delshay said:
The game is "early access".. If you have a problem with this game, would it not be better to post the problem in the steam thread so that developers can see & fix it. ..if it's a common problem.

The title of this thread say's "a few other games" ..Like to know what other games are showing problems.

they are not responding to steam threads, someone comes and 'socializes' once in a while, but with close to $100mil in sales you'd think they'de hire someone by now

INSTG8R · Mar 9, 2021

DeathtoGnomes said:
they are not responding to steam threads, someone comes and 'socializes' once in a while, but with close to $100mil in sales you'd think they'de hire someone by now

That’s pretty shameful considering it’s Early Access...I mean the point of EA is to get feedback to improv/fix/optimize your final product...

DeathtoGnomes · Mar 9, 2021

INSTG8R said:
That’s pretty shameful considering it’s Early Access...I mean the point of EA is to get feedback to improv/fix/optimize your final product...

have you seen the toxicity on steam forums? It not like its deserved, even a forum moderator would be welcomed at this point.

INSTG8R · Mar 9, 2021

DeathtoGnomes said:
have you seen the toxicity on steam forums? It not like its deserved, even a forum moderator would be welcomed at this point.

Won’t deny that, most are train wrecks but if people are just “screaming into the void” then Early Access is pointless and well will definitely make it more toxic if nobody s actually listening.

Frick · Mar 9, 2021

INSTG8R said:
That’s pretty shameful considering it’s Early Access...I mean the point of EA is to get feedback to improv/fix/optimize your final product...

I assume they have their own forum as well.

Toothless · Mar 9, 2021

World's first Evgigagabyte card.

de.das.dude · Mar 9, 2021

R-T-B said:
Maybe I can sell this hunk of crap to a bitcoin miner since compute seems to pass...

Hold the phone!

This is weird, but I ran EVGA's own autooverclocking utility and...

View attachment 191626

It undevolted my card a bit, aparently. Plus added an OC. Now I seemingly have no artifacts? Going to game a bit and see if it holds... but it's been more than 10 mins.

What in silicon hell would explain this, though?

under-volting solved the issue so, overheating was your cause. heat causes solder joint cracks to expand and give funky resutlts.

Toothless · Mar 9, 2021

de.das.dude said:
under-volting solved the issue so, overheating was your cause. heat causes solder joint cracks to expand and give funky resutlts.

Read the whole thread, flashing a different bios fixed it.

delshay · Mar 9, 2021

DeathtoGnomes said:
they are not responding to steam threads, someone comes and 'socializes' once in a while, but with close to $100mil in sales you'd think they'de hire someone by now

That's because they are busy. If you look at the update history they are pushing out updates every few days. They can't be in two places at once & probably have enough bugs to deal with. To tell you the truth, I sooner they spend time on the game pushing out updates than spending time in forums.

You can see the update history here Valheim - Steam News Hub (steampowered.com)

Toothless said:
Read the whole thread, flashing a different bios fixed it.

Care to point me to where he says it's fixed, because I must of miss something..

Toothless · Mar 9, 2021

delshay said:
That's because they are busy. If you look at the update history they are pushing out updates every few days. They can't be in two places at once & probably have enough bugs to deal with. To tell you the truth, I sooner they spend time on the game pushing out updates than spending time in forums.

You can see the update history here Valheim - Steam News Hub (steampowered.com)

Care to point me to where he says it's fixed, because I must of miss something..

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RJARRRPCGP · Mar 9, 2021

delshay said:
Card was working fine before, so I would never have touch the BIOS. The very first thing to do is clean install & reduce the clock speed. Don't increase the voltage, just play around with the clock speed by turning it down.

He has tested the card on another PC, so it's looking like a hardware fault. OP also needs to check if the warranty seals has been tampered with. ..He needs to knows has anyone ever opened it up.

I remember for cards not too long ago, you can OC with Afterburner and there wasn't anything stopping you from trying frequencies that are unstable. If GPU voltage can't be bumped up, it definitely means "back off".

Mussels said:
valheims textures can be like that, its early access
player textures make minecraft look detailed (while other aspects that are complete, look amazing)

the white lines are wind, the white boxes are rainddrops bouncing. Thats regular valheim graphics (again, early access)

IIRC, I saw better graphics with a game on a pre-Pentium CPU! (And it wasn't too slow) I think it was called Wyatt Earp's Old West.

R-T-B · Mar 9, 2021

delshay said:
Card was working fine before, so I would never have touch the BIOS.

Only reason I did is bios doesn't match the board serial.

I honestly can't see the squares you are talking about, care to highlight? Remember if you are talking about the pixelated textures, that's the games style.

delshay said:
Care to point me to where he says it's fixed

It is. Gigabyte bios of all things worked.

de.das.dude said:
under-volting solved the issue so, overheating was your cause. heat causes solder joint cracks to expand and give funky resutlts.

I think it was more wrong memory timings in a crossflashed ebay card.

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My GPU dying? Constant shadow flicker in Valheim and a few other games.

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