Need For Speed SHIFT 2 Unleashed

[AltecV1]

i have it on my system and from what i have played so far its about same as the last shift game,there are some REALLY REALLY cool cars in the game thou (there are no working trainers yet so i havent tried them out yet for myself ) on graphics side im the wrong person to give my opinion as i have do play at medium settings,no AA and AF do get playable frame rate

 

[TRIPTEX_CAN]

replays can be saved and played back later ?

Yes. The option to save replays exists but I was unable to find where they can be played from. I'm probably just missing something obvious but its even possible to share relays with friends. ill have another look tonight.

 

[AltecV1]

 

[MLG The Canadian]

I can run it at max settings and I'm getting a very smooth response. 60 frames steady and I gotta say the game is quite pretty.

I'm not a massive fan of racing games, but it's pretty fun I guess. I like how the helmet cam faces towards turns and such, and blurs the interior when you would normally be focusing on a bend.

Pretty neat immersion.

 

[MLG The Canadian]

I have it maxed out at 60 frames steady and it looks good.

 

[RejZoR]

the physics are awful, in car textures are awful, ground textures are awful.. car textures are meh

Im comparing these too other racing games available now.

http://forums.guru3d.com/showpost.php?p=3935712&postcount=234

^^ shows 0 improvement over the first game.


NFS is the madden of racing games. People buy them just cause its the new NFS but that devoted user base has slowly gotten smaller and smaller.

Well, yes and no. Even though the latest Hot Pursuit is radically different than older NFS games, it captured the essence of Hot Pursuit. Though i'd want a bit more pure chases than just raw powerups. But it has pretty good tracks, proper sports cars, cops and pretty darn good graphics despite lack of FSAA (i use MLAA anyway). I wouldn't mind proper NFS Porsche 2000 successor, but this will do as well. If they make a sequel and i'm sure they will, i really wouldn't mind it being similar to the current one.

Heavy upgrade to it on all typical ends and what i'd really like to have is race editor where you could "draw" your own track on the existing map by selecting sections of roads and connect them into your own twisted roads. With such flexibility, you have nearly unlimited choices of tracks that could be shared online with minimal need for extra coding of the game. This could be fun. We had full car customizations before but we never had track editors in NFS. If anyone ever played Re-Volt, Stunts, Crashday or original Trackmania, you know how fun it can be.

 

[newconroer]

On mention of performance..

Most of the graphic parameters adjustabe in game are your box standard features such as :

Anisotropic filtering
Anti Aliasing
Texture Resolution
Shadow quality
Motion Blur
Reflection quality
etc...

There's nothing miscellaneous about it.

The system in my specs can barely break 30fps when being the only car on track.
Which is a shame because it doesn't even look that great. It's asif some large development company took GTR 2 or rfactor and gave it a more modern graphics update.
It looks nothing like GT5 or Forza 3. Test Drive Unlimited 2 is better eye candy equipped and NFS Hot Pursuit 2 destroys it when it comes to everything but the vehicles.


Physics wise? I can't really say so far, though from what I can tell it doesn't seem like they're going to be winning any simulator awards any time soon.
Which is fine, cause it's Need for Speed, but wow, the control(s) is awful.
If you ever thought Grid was 'floaty' then you aint seen nothing yet. At least Grid was adjustable to the point where the floaty became a realistic wheel lock snap-back like all vehicles have in real life when rubber meets pavement. Here, no matter how you tune the input sensitivty, the car ends up swerving and sliding around at all speeds as if you were playing with a digital device, like a keyboard or a numpad on a game controller.
It reminds me of when you give elderly people a Playstation controller and have them try to play Gran Tourismo. You know how they get going on the front straight at full speed, and then the car starts slowly veering in one direction. They don't seem to notice until you have to point it out to them that the wall is coming up faster than Tom Cruise on his way around Daytona. So they immediately jerk the analog the opposite direction, over correcting so much that they have to swing back the way they just came until this pattern repeats itself into a full blown Vanishing Point rockford 180 and they slam into the wall.

Ya, it handles like that.




All in all, this is shaping up to be a repeat of Shift 1 launch, but even worse this time.

EA should stick to arcade racers like they used to be good at, and leave the hybrid driving games(Grid, Dirt, etc.) to Codemasters since they seem to balance 'fun' with something that somewhat resembles realistic.
Papyrus should come back and work with Simbin to make an F1 game and remind Codemasters that not all the people who will play it, are the same idiots who suddenly started watching F1 when the English turned it into a soap opera starring the diplomatic Jake Humphreys alongside his co-host, the over dramatic Eddie Jordan and guest star Lewis Hamilton a.k.a. Whiney the Brat, with special appearances by the ever intelligent Lee Mckenzie who asks such rhetorical and stupid questions, it makes you seriously question how some people actually get ahead in this world. It's not meant to be for people who care what outfit Nicole is wearing this week and whether or not her and Lewis are still getting along 'ok.'
Who would have thought cricket, Nascar and F1 could be mass-marketed?

Actual F1 enthusiasts would love another Grand Prix II.

Anyways, at least GTR 3 is out this year.

 

[MLG The Canadian]

On mention of performance..

The system in my specs can barely break 30fps when being the only car on track.

That is very strange considering I get a steady 60 frames at max settings.

 

[TRIPTEX_CAN]

On mention of performance..

Most of the graphic parameters adjustabe in game are your box standard features such as :

Anisotropic filtering
Anti Aliasing
Texture Resolution
Shadow quality
Motion Blur
Reflection quality
etc...

There's nothing miscellaneous about it.

The system in my specs can barely break 30fps when being the only car on track.
*SNIP

Crossfire is fubar. Use Radeon Pro to force AFR method and dont use a game profile. that should get the performance up to the level of a single GPU in your system. You could also disable Cat AI to get a single card running but I dont think the newer catalyst has this. Radeon Pro is almost essential to get this game performing well until ATI get their shit together.

 

[TRIPTEX_CAN]

I've checked out a few forums and IMO I would hold off on this game. Did you see the comparison pics? Wow, just wow...:shadedshu

Thats a bad example if the graphics. Here are some better ones from the same thread. http://forums.guru3d.com/showpost.php?p=3936244&postcount=271

Also this thread should be merged with the other Shift 2 thread.

 

[EastCoasthandle]

Thats a bad example if the graphics. Here are some better ones from the same thread. http://forums.guru3d.com/showpost.php?p=3936244&postcount=271

Also this thread should be merged with the other Shift 2 thread.

No, what I provided is fine. People are complaining about this game from graphics to controls.

 

[TRIPTEX_CAN]

No, what I provided is fine. People are complaining about this game from graphics to controls.

I dont remember asking why people are complaining

99% of all games released on PC by EA need patching to even become decent games. Give it time.. assuming you even bought the game.

Comparing Shift 2 unpatched to Shift post-mods, driver updates, and patching is pretty narrow minded.

 

[EastCoasthandle]

I dont remember asking why people are complaining

99% of all games released on PC by EA need patching to even become decent games. Give it time.. assuming you even bought the game.

Comparing Shift 2 unpatched to Shift post-mods, driver updates, and patching is pretty narrow minded.

You attempted to correct my post with a link of your own. Therefore, it does qualify you implying about what people are complaining about. Which is the gist of my post in this thread. Another thing to note is that:
A. There is no demo (no announcement that I know either).
B. No announcement of a possible patch relating to the problems people are noting about the game.
etc.
So in the end, while you think it's enough to look at a few pics and imply it's a good game others are bit more skeptical.

 

[TRIPTEX_CAN]

You attempted to correct my post with a link of your own. Therefore, it does qualify you implying about what people are complaining about. Which is the gist of my post in this thread. Another thing to note is that:
A. There is no demo (no announcement that I know either).
B. No announcement of a possible patch relating to the problems people are noting about the game.
etc.
So in the end, while you think it's enough to look at a few pics and imply it's a good game others are bit more skeptical.

I make no attempt to correct your post Look at it more as a rebuttal in a mature conversation. I offered other samples of screenshots from the same thread you linked as a secondary comparative to the comments on the graphics quality.

I am playing the game and its actually pretty fun.

There is no demo that I am aware of.

Believing there are no patches forthcoming is naive. EA loves patches as that is what separates pirated copies from (eventually polished) retail products.

 

[EastCoasthandle]

I make no attempt to correct your post Look at it more as a rebuttal in a mature conversation. I offered other samples of screenshots from the same thread you linked as a secondary comparative to the comments on the graphics quality.

I am playing the game and its actually pretty fun.

There is no demo that I am aware of.

Believing there are no patches forthcoming is naive. EA loves patches as that is what separates pirated copies from (eventually polished) retail products.

Another thing I noticed is that DLC is already announced. Take a look at the videos here:
Legends Preview
Drag Racing
Standing Mile

However, according to this review PC's won't be getting any DLC. So when I see all this and the OP asks if it's something worth buying I suggested that he wait for now.

Edit:
OP in which this discussion relates to has been merged.

 

[TRIPTEX_CAN]

Another thing I noticed is that DLC is already announced. Take a look at the videos here:
Legends Preview
Drag Racing
Standing Mile

However, according to this review PC's won't be getting any DLC. So when I see all this and the OP asks if it's something worth buying I suggested that he wait for now.

Fair enough. I agree this game will leave many people on the fence trying to decide to purchase it or not. That's why we have these threads and discussions.

I just felt the screenshots you linked dont actually do the game any justice and neither to the in game movies which look like they were rendered on the Wii. The actual game looks great while playing it and I'm playing 3 feet from a 58 inch plasma of the highest quality.

 

[EastCoasthandle]

Fair enough. I agree this game will leave many people on the fence trying to decide to purchase it or not. That's why we have these threads and discussions.

I just felt the screenshots you linked dont actually do the game any justice and neither to the in game movies which look like they were rendered on the Wii. The actual game looks great while playing it and I'm playing 3 feet from a 58 inch plasma of the highest quality.

It's not about "justice" its about other user experience. If that's what they are getting then perhaps it's something the developers need to fix. There are some issues that come to mind such as the low resolution textures, AA not working as it should, lower then expected frame rates, etc people are pointing out. As well as some issues with the cockpit getting dark. Among other things I've come across. My impression is that this game needs a patch to fix whatever is wrong with it.

 

[TRIPTEX_CAN]

In shift 1 the cockpit was overly bright almost the point of looking fake because most cars are darker inside than the road outside in full daylight. At 300km/h low-res textures are a moot point.

Low performance is ATI burden at this point and lower than expected performance is subjective.

 

[EastCoasthandle]

In shift 1 the cockpit was overly bright almost the point of looking fake because most cars are darker inside than the road outside in full daylight. At 300km/h low-res textures are a moot point.

Attempting to defend the game by making a moot point doesn't imply that the complaints made are invalid. It just means you're not receptive to accepting the experiences of others.

 

[TRIPTEX_CAN]

Attempting to put words in my mouth implies you want to continue this conversation. Impressions of graphics are highly subjective and regarding the complaints of others... I have not made an effort to directly refute them. I've only offered my opinion as to how I perceive the graphics. I understand many people have problems with the physics, controls, and general handling of the vehicles and their complaints are valid as they have played the game. I have played this game too.

Have you played this game or are you regurgitating the opinions of e-strangers?

 

[MLG The Canadian]

Play nice ladies, this really isn't worth fighting over.

 

[Boneface]

Installed it played it for 10mins and uninstalled, looks like crap and controls blow! just my opinion!

 

[TRIPTEX_CAN]

Play nice ladies, this really isn't worth fighting over.

lol its not a fight and its not the first time eastcoast and I have been in one of these digital pissing matches.

 

[EastCoasthandle]

Installed it played it for 10mins and uninstalled, looks like crap and controls blow! just my opinion!

But you gotta look at the pics suggesting it's not crap . The mod over at EA Forums started a Bug Report Thread yesterday. Very proactive of them .

 

[MilkyWay]

I didn't really like the original Shift it wasn't terrible just felt kinda average nothing really great about it.
Its not like PC gamers get a lot of choice when it comes to racers though at that moment.
I don't think there is a demo but im not sure? I Guess if there was it would be better than looking at screenies and arguments because people could try for themselves without taking a plunge.

EDIT: A game like Forza 3 Ultimate, i feel im having to push the car and get the corners and that better, like play constructively rather than when i played the original Shift and was driving around leisurely and still winning. Im pretty crap at racers btw. Cars where just beating me if they where better cars performance wise not because i was shit at racing games.