(Needed) Gaming PCI Express x1

[JohnstonOctober]

I've been looking for a pci e x1 vga card for about 3 months now and i can't seem to find any to be able to play games like gta 4. Do any of you know what card would be best for gaming on a pci e x1

 

[ShiBDiB]

http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=geforce+PCIe+x1&hl=en&cid=15694862540816021656&sa=title#p

ur better off buying a new mobo with a x16.. for the price to performance this card sucks but no1 bothers making x1 cards because of the bandwidth restriction

 

[wolf2009]

don't think they make any PCI-E x1 cards. Even if they did it wouldn't be able to play GTA 4.

You have been looking for the wrong thing in the first place, which is why you haven't found anything in 3 months. You should be looking for a PCI-E x16 or PCI-E 2.0 card.

 

[LittleLizard]

the best thing i know pcie 1x is a 9500gt and that card is crap when playing gta4 and a hell difficult to find, so...

 

[ShiBDiB]

the best thing i know pcie 1x is a 9500gt and that card is crap when playing gta4 and a hell difficult to find, so...

ya its nowhere on google ive searched, best i could find is what i listed above which would crawl thru gta4

 

[t77snapshot]

How could a motherboard have a pci-e x1 slot and not have a x16?

 

[mlee49]

Dude your not going to be able to find a 1x card straight from a manufacture that will play GTA4. If your really concerned about this just pick up an old 8800GT or the like and mod the card to make it a 1x card, and yes it can be done just check the Modding section here.

Not sure if an 8800GT would handle GTA4 at 1x speeds but it would be a good place to start.

 

[newtekie1]

You need a new motherboard for 2 reasons:

1.) The obvious reason we have already been talking about, no PCI-E x1 card will handle GTA4.

2.) The motherboard in the EL-1200 is only rated for 45w processors MAX. The 6400+ is rated as 125w...which means you aren't too far away from blown caps and a dead motherboard.

Of course, there is also the issue that the power supply is only rated for 220w.

 

[p_o_s_pc]

you really need a new mobo and PSU

try something like this (if you don't need/want the best and don't want to overclock)
mobo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813186151
PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817104044
video card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121319
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102820

would be a nice little setup wouldn't be the best but would sure play GTA4(maybe not max but would play it nicely) maybe you could mod that 9600GSO if you wanted. Also with that hardware its cheap and you could still use your same case.(you would want to do something to keep it cool)

 

[mlee49]

What do you guys think, an overclocked 8800GT at 1x speed vs a 4670 at 16x.

 

[p_o_s_pc]

What do you guys think, an overclocked 8800GT at 1x speed vs a 4670 at 16x.

the 4670 would stomp all over it

 

[mlee49]

the 4670 would stomp all over it

I dont know, I've seen some sick runs from the 8800's. 18k in 3D06 so even half of that preformance would be almost on par with the full speed 4670's.

 

[muon]

http://www.emachines.com/products/products.html?prod=EL1200-05w

Has the NVIDIA® GeForce® 6150SE chipset which is actually an nforce 4 chipset. So unless e-machines have removed the 16x lane slot to cut costs, there should be one.

 

[p_o_s_pc]

I dont know, I've seen some sick runs from the 8800's. 18k in 3D06 so even half of that preformance would be almost on par with the full speed 4670's.

I have a 8800GT and its not that impressive i have seen some highly overclocked 4670's kick the shit out of them

 

[Laurijan]

You need a new motherboard for 2 reasons:

1.) The obvious reason we have already been talking about, no PCI-E x1 card will handle GTA4.

2.) The motherboard in the EL-1200 is only rated for 45w processors MAX. The 6400+ is rated as 125w...which means you aren't too far away from blown caps and a dead motherboard.

Of course, there is also the issue that the power supply is only rated for 220w.

Wonder how his machine could possible work under this conditions?

 

[eidairaman1]

I've been looking for a pci e x1 vga card for about 3 months now and i can't seem to find any to be able to play games like gta 4. Do any of you know what card would be best for gaming on a pci e x1

ok PCI Express 1 doesnt have the bandwidth that PCI Express 4x does, PCI Express 4x= AGP 8x. PCI Express 1x has slightly more bandwidth than PCI. so in Conclusion all Gaming series boards need to be at least PCI express 4x.

 

[wiak]

i would get a 65W cpu and a HD 4670
Athlon II X2 250 should do

 

[imperialreign]

I dont know, I've seen some sick runs from the 8800's. 18k in 3D06 so even half of that preformance would be almost on par with the full speed 4670's.

try less than half - the bandwidth of the PCIE lanes makes a massive impact on a cards performance . . . simply OCing the BUS pays more dividends for GPU performance than OCing the GPU and GDDR itself does.

I'd agree that a 4670 running stock at x16 2.0 would pee all over an OCed 8800 running in x1 mode.



Although, there are a few manufacturer's out there that do make PCIEx1 VGA adapters, you'd really not be getting your monies worth, as the GPU and GDRAM would be significantly hampered . . . it'd be like paying for a Ferrari that has a governor locked in for a max speed of 35MPH, with no means at all to bypass it . . .

 

[chuck216]

What he needs is to throw that pre-built piece of eMachines junk in the trash, and build himself a real computer from the ground up. It doesn't have to be made from top of the line parts but everybody knows a computer you put together yourself runs 10 times better than one you buy with some manufacturer's name stuck to it.

 

[BrooksyX]

If you insist on using your pci-e 1x slot you could cut the back of the slot to fit a full size 16x card.

 

[imperialreign]

If you insist on using your pci-e 1x slot you could cut the back of the slot to fit a full size 16x card.

could - but you run the risk of permanently damaging the slot or motherboard . . . and you'd still be stuck with a fraction of the card's supported bandwidth

 

[boomstik360]

He is talking about cutting away the little notch on the 1x slot that interferes with adding in a x16 card.

 

[BrooksyX]

He is talking about cutting away the little notch on the 1x slot that interferes with adding in a x16 card.

he understood what I said.

What would probably be easiest would to be to use a soldering iron to just melt away the back part of the slot. I remember reading that someone did this before.

 

[p_o_s_pc]

could - but you run the risk of permanently damaging the slot or motherboard . . . and you'd still be stuck with a fraction of the card's supported bandwidth

hell if he damages the board it gives him a reason to buy a new one that has PCI-E x16

 

[BrooksyX]

hell if he damages the board it gives him a reason to buy a new one that has PCI-E x16

I was thinking the same thing