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Regarding the RAM, I've ordered the following

G.Skill F4-3600C18D-32GTZN Trident Z Neo 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4-3600MHz CL18 1.35V Black Desktop Memory

but I'm wondering if I shouldn't be buying 4 x 8GB in wish channel instead of dual channel.

wouldn't the quad channel be better??
 
Regarding the RAM, I've ordered the following

G.Skill F4-3600C18D-32GTZN Trident Z Neo 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4-3600MHz CL18 1.35V Black Desktop Memory

but I'm wondering if I shouldn't be buying 4 x 8GB in wish channel instead of dual channel.

wouldn't the quad channel be better??

The only way to get quad channel support is if you go with the X299, X399 or TR40 chipset based motherboards. AM4 only supports Dual channel.
 
The only way to get quad channel support is if you go with the X299, X399 or TR40 chipset based motherboards. AM4 only supports Dual channel.
Then I stick to dual channel :-) thanks
 
Ok, so Im not looking at new monitors and can't seem to find one that is worth the money with the following specs:

144Hz
G-Sync
1440p
27"


Two actually ... tho these are a bit quicker at 165 Hz:

Acer XB271HU bmiprz
Asus PG279Q ROG Swift

The Asus has the more "solid looking design" ... originally they both used to use the same panel, but Asus dropped from a 10 bit to a 8 bit panel ... so I recommend the Acer. They originally retailed fro $850 - $1000 ... now a steal at $550 - $625


but I'm wondering if I shouldn't be buying 4 x 8GB in wish channel instead of dual channel.

wouldn't the quad channel be better??

No ... the board is dual channel. 2 x 16GB is supperior than 4 x 8GB
 
Two actually ... tho these are a bit quicker at 165 Hz:

Acer XB271HU bmiprz
Asus PG279Q ROG Swift

The Asus has the more "solid looking design" ... originally they both used to use the same panel, but Asus dropped from a 10 bit to a 8 bit panel ... so I recommend the Acer. They originally retailed fro $850 - $1000 ... now a steal at $550 - $625




No ... the board is dual channel. 2 x 16GB is supperior than 4 x 8GB
Thanks All for the advice on the monitors but I am really struggling to find ANY suppliers here locally that offer IPS panels at 144Hz 1440p monitors with or without G-Sync or Freesync.

The only monitor I am able to get CLOSE to it is this one.
Alienware AW3418DW 34" UltraWide QHD

This is also VERY expensive and is only 120Hz and I am not so sure I like such a WIDE monitor.

What are your thoughts on this monitor?
 
I personally hate ultrawide.... I don't think there is anything wrong with this particular model but it's at least a 2 year old panel and overpriced in my opinion.


The 120hz is a non issue most modern games you won't be even hitting that refresh rate.
 
I personally hate ultrawide.... I don't think there is anything wrong with this particular model but it's at least a 2 year old panel and overpriced in my opinion.


The 120hz is a non issue most modern games you won't be even hitting that refresh rate.
At ultra wide, I also have to consider the performance requirements for such high res.

Gaming at 3440x1440 might be a bit taxing on the system maybe? what do you think?
 




This is literally the only one I like on your parts website


3440x1440 the 2080 ti can handle just fine but I'd rather have the higher framerates with 2560x1440.
 
Thats a VA monitor. Not sure I want that.

So I'm just curious as to why you hate ultra wide monitors?
 
Va is pretty good for non competitive gaming it has by far the best black levels of the 3 major monitor panel types they're also way less prone to back light bleed and ips tend to look grey in a dark rooms


I personally just don't like the way it looks it's ok for racing games assuming they support it but I dont like it for FPS/action games/sports games etc. It seems every monitor is way over priced in your country though.
 
Va is pretty good for non competitive gaming it has by far the best black levels of the 3 major monitor panel types they're also way less prone to back light bleed and ips tend to look grey in a dark rooms

interesting

I personally just don't like the way it looks it's ok for racing games assuming they support it but I dont like it for FPS/action games/sports games etc. It seems every monitor is way over priced in your country though.
The most games I play are simulation games like Cities Skylines & Surviving Mars. An ultra wide monitor could help in games such as these when you want to see a large FOV.
I do play FPS but not as much as simulation.
 
interesting


The most games I play are simulation games like Cities Skylines & Surviving Mars. An ultra wide monitor could help in games such as these when you want to see a large FOV.
I do play FPS but not as much as simulation.

I'd read that review I sent you and decide if it's worth the cost.
 
Im leaning towards the VA panel now. I NEVER view my monitor from angles. ONLY right in front of my monitor.
 
Im leaning towards the VA panel now. I NEVER view my monitor from angles. ONLY right in front of my monitor.


My wife uses an MSI one honestly I think it looks pretty damn nice.
 
So here is the final machine WITHOUT the monitor.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LfnCdm





This is literally the only one I like on your parts website


3440x1440 the 2080 ti can handle just fine but I'd rather have the higher framerates with 2560x1440.
This monitor is not listed as being on the G-Sync compatible list.
 
Very nice. It's really similar to mine. Seems you decided on the 3900X
yes :-) I saved money on the graphics card because it was on special so I upgraded the processor to the 3900x
 
yes :) I saved money on the graphics card because it was on special so I upgraded the processor to the 3900x


Not sure why my psu isn't on part picker but this is what I went with.

other parts.

I stuck the 2080 ti in my 9900k system though

So here is the final machine WITHOUT the monitor.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LfnCdm


This monitor is not listed as being on the G-Sync compatible list.

from the review of the LG.

It also has FreeSync support with low framerate compensation and it’s compatible with Nvidia GPUs
 
from the review of the LG.

It also has FreeSync support with low framerate compensation and it’s compatible with Nvidia GPUs
I don't see the monitor on the compatibility list.

The IPS Ultra wide Alienware panel is on a huge discount at the moment. Usually the monitor sells for R21000 on that site, but it is now selling for R15000 which is a huge savings.

So I'm really wondering if it isn't worth it and all the video reviews I've watched on it are really praising the monitor.
 
I don't see the monitor on the compatibility list.

The IPS Ultra wide Alienware panel is on a huge discount at the moment. Usually the monitor sells for R21000 on that site, but it is now selling for R15000 which is a huge savings.

So I'm really wondering if it isn't worth it and all the video reviews I've watched on it are really praising the monitor.

with the options you have if you're ok with an ultrawide it may be your best option.... I'm not high on it due to the ultrawide and the fact that over here there are way better options for similar $$$

almost every VRR monitor works just fine with Gsync Nvidia is just really slow validating them Most reviews will test them and let you know. The LG has not been validated but it works great with Gsync.


The LG seems to cost almost twice as much there as it does here. the alienware is about $300 more expensive at its sale price


I looked more at that alienware it does seem pretty solid and similar monitors on your website cost more so it's definitely probably your best IPS option.

Just keep in mind your performance is going to be 20-30% lower than standard 1440p For what you typically play that probably doesn't matter.
 
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with the options you have if you're ok with an ultrawide it may be your best option.... I'm not high on it due to the ultrawide and the fact that over here there are way better options for similar $$$

almost every VRR monitor works just fine with Gsync Nvidia is just really slow validating them Most reviews will test them and let you know. The LG has not been validated but it works great with Gsync.


The LG seems to cost almost twice as much there as it does here. the alienware is about $300 more expensive at its sale price


I looked more at that alienware it does seem pretty solid and similar monitors on your website cost more so it's definitely probably your best IPS option.

Just keep in mind your performance is going to be 20-30% lower than standard 1440p For what you typically play that probably doesn't matter.
Yh, I'm aware of the performance drop. But we are probably talking about 10-15 frames and when you're gaming at 100fps, I don't think 10-15 frames would make such a massive difference
 
Yh, I'm aware of the performance drop. But we are probably taking about 10-15 frames and when you're gaming at 100, I don't 10-15 games would make such a massive difference
At 100 fps it would be 20-30 at least. You're dealing with about 35% more pixels. Some games it may be closer to 35.

Battlefield-V-3440x1440-Ultrawide-AMD-Radeon-VII-Performance.pngBattlefield-V-1440p-AMD-Radeon-VII-Performance.pngFar-Cry-5-3440x1440-Ultrawide-NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-2080-and-2080-Ti-Performance.jpgFar-Cry-5-1440p-NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-2080-and-2080-Ti-Performance.jpg

That's not as bad As I thought
one of the few sites that does ultrawide 1440p testing.

Also shows you why these types of monitors being 120hz really doesn't matter.
 
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Thanks All for the advice on the monitors but I am really struggling to find ANY suppliers here locally that offer IPS panels at 144Hz 1440p monitors with or without G-Sync or Freesync.

The only monitor I am able to get CLOSE to it is this one.
Alienware AW3418DW 34" UltraWide QHD

This is also VERY expensive and is only 120Hz and I am not so sure I like such a WIDE monitor.

I am also not a fan of ultra-wides ... The big deal with the recommended monitors is that they do120 hz w/ ULMB... 144 Hz will only do 100 Hz under ULMB ... I think 120 hz is limited to 85Hz, but it's been too long since I looked at one to remember.

As to viewing angles ... there is only a small area of the screen which is not viewed at at angle. Not really an issue for gaming but if doing graphics, linework CAD etc, the effect is easily observed .... draw a series if vertical and horizontal lines across the screen and you will see them appear to have different thicknesses.

Freesync and G-Sync do pretty much the same thing ... that is between say 40 and 70 fps ..... but the are far from the same thing. G-Sync has been reported as effective down to 30 fps, but I have not had the experience of observing game play at that level. The effect diminishes in impact above that. And there's one H U G E difference between G-Sync and Freesync. With G-Sync you can switch to ULMB ... Freesync monitors will cost less because they do not come equipped with the hardware module that makes this possible. Now there are Freesync monitors with MBR technology added by the monitor supplier but results vary.

The question is do the both do it as well and the answer there is no. That's because AMD uses a inexpensive scaler, where as G-Sync uses the proprietary hardware module. The scaler provides connectivity options like HDMI and can use features like PiP. On the other side, the G-sync module, in addition to the the MBR technology, reduces input lag, delivers higher refresh rates with the same panel and the overdrive usage for gaming provides consistent results, where's Freesync has had issues here.

There are other differences between the two ... the main issue in performance is that G-Sync's hardware module does not employ a scaler. As such it avoids the imput lag issue that is associated with Freesync style scaler. The module also permits a significant boost in refresh rate ... 60 Hz ultrawide panels become 100Hz panels witha G-Sync module ... 144 Hz panels become 165 Hz panels with a G-Sync module.


TFT also writes ..."screens featuring the hardware G-sync module, the response times of the panels and the overdrive that is used seems to be generally very reliable and consistent, producing strong performance at both low and high refresh rates. This seems to be more consistent than what we have seen from FreeSync screens so far where often the overdrive impulse is impacted negatively by changes to the screens refresh rate. "

"It should be noted that the real benefits of G-sync really come into play when viewing lower frame rate content, around 45 - 60fps typically delivers the best results compared with Vsync on/off. At consistently higher frame rates as you get nearer to 144 fps the benefits of G-sync are not as great, but still apparent. There will be a gradual transition period for each user where the benefits of using G-sync decrease, and it may instead be better to use the ULMB feature if it's been included, which is not available when using G-sync. Higher end gaming machines might be able to push out higher frame rates more consistently and so you might find less benefit in using G-sync. The ULMB could then help in another very important area, helping to reduce the perceived motion blur caused by LCD displays. It's nice to have both G-sync and ULMB available to choose from certainly on these G-sync enabled displays. "

"As there is no hardware G-sync module added to the screen, a normal scaler chip is used and this can in some cases result in additional input lag. You will still find plenty of FreeSync screens with low lag, but you will need to check third party tests such as our reviews to be sure. It's not as simple as with G-sync screens where the presence of that hardware module basically guarantees there will be no real input lag. "

"We have seen quite a lot of variable performance when it comes to pixel response times from FreeSync screens, and they do seem to be a lot more hit and miss than G-sync equivalents. On G-sync screens you commonly get response times that remain strong and consistent across all refresh rates. Sometimes the response times will be controlled more dynamically, increasing the overdrive impulse as the refresh rate goes up. On FreeSync screens we have seen many where the overdrive impulse seems to be controlled in the opposite way oddly, where it is turned down when the refresh rate goes up. This can help eliminate overshoot problems but can often lead to slower response times at the higher refresh rates where you really need them to be faster! You will again have to rely on third party testing like that in our reviews, but it's something we've seen from quite a few FreeSync screens."


The answer as to why get a G-Sync monitor over a G-Sync compatible Freesync monitor for less money ... despite what yoiu've been told, or what the word "compatible ... you are by no means getting "the same thing".
 
I am also not a fan of ultra-wides ... The big deal with the recommended monitors is that they do120 hz w/ ULMB... 144 Hz will only do 100 Hz under ULMB ... I think 120 hz is limited to 85Hz, but it's been too long since I looked at one to remember.

As to viewing angles ... there is only a small area of the screen which is not viewed at at angle. Not really an issue for gaming but if doing graphics, linework CAD etc, the effect is easily observed .... draw a series if vertical and horizontal lines across the screen and you will see them appear to have different thicknesses.

Freesync and G-Sync do pretty much the same thing ... that is between say 40 and 70 fps ..... but the are far from the same thing. G-Sync has been reported as effective down to 30 fps, but I have not had the experience of observing game play at that level. The effect diminishes in impact above that. And there's one H U G E difference between G-Sync and Freesync. With G-Sync you can switch to ULMB ... Freesync monitors will cost less because they do not come equipped with the hardware module that makes this possible. Now there are Freesync monitors with MBR technology added by the monitor supplier but results vary.

The question is do the both do it as well and the answer there is no. That's because AMD uses a inexpensive scaler, where as G-Sync uses the proprietary hardware module. The scaler provides connectivity options like HDMI and can use features like PiP. On the other side, the G-sync module, in addition to the the MBR technology, reduces input lag, delivers higher refresh rates with the same panel and the overdrive usage for gaming provides consistent results, where's Freesync has had issues here.

There are other differences between the two ... the main issue in performance is that G-Sync's hardware module does not employ a scaler. As such it avoids the imput lag issue that is associated with Freesync style scaler. The module also permits a significant boost in refresh rate ... 60 Hz ultrawide panels become 100Hz panels witha G-Sync module ... 144 Hz panels become 165 Hz panels with a G-Sync module.


TFT also writes ..."screens featuring the hardware G-sync module, the response times of the panels and the overdrive that is used seems to be generally very reliable and consistent, producing strong performance at both low and high refresh rates. This seems to be more consistent than what we have seen from FreeSync screens so far where often the overdrive impulse is impacted negatively by changes to the screens refresh rate. "

"It should be noted that the real benefits of G-sync really come into play when viewing lower frame rate content, around 45 - 60fps typically delivers the best results compared with Vsync on/off. At consistently higher frame rates as you get nearer to 144 fps the benefits of G-sync are not as great, but still apparent. There will be a gradual transition period for each user where the benefits of using G-sync decrease, and it may instead be better to use the ULMB feature if it's been included, which is not available when using G-sync. Higher end gaming machines might be able to push out higher frame rates more consistently and so you might find less benefit in using G-sync. The ULMB could then help in another very important area, helping to reduce the perceived motion blur caused by LCD displays. It's nice to have both G-sync and ULMB available to choose from certainly on these G-sync enabled displays. "

"As there is no hardware G-sync module added to the screen, a normal scaler chip is used and this can in some cases result in additional input lag. You will still find plenty of FreeSync screens with low lag, but you will need to check third party tests such as our reviews to be sure. It's not as simple as with G-sync screens where the presence of that hardware module basically guarantees there will be no real input lag. "

"We have seen quite a lot of variable performance when it comes to pixel response times from FreeSync screens, and they do seem to be a lot more hit and miss than G-sync equivalents. On G-sync screens you commonly get response times that remain strong and consistent across all refresh rates. Sometimes the response times will be controlled more dynamically, increasing the overdrive impulse as the refresh rate goes up. On FreeSync screens we have seen many where the overdrive impulse seems to be controlled in the opposite way oddly, where it is turned down when the refresh rate goes up. This can help eliminate overshoot problems but can often lead to slower response times at the higher refresh rates where you really need them to be faster! You will again have to rely on third party testing like that in our reviews, but it's something we've seen from quite a few FreeSync screens."


The answer as to why get a G-Sync monitor over a G-Sync compatible Freesync monitor for less money ... despite what yoiu've been told, or what the word "compatible ... you are by no means getting "the same thing".

Well the Alienware ultrawide is a gsync monitor and it is a 100Hz IPS panel and can overclock to 120Hz.

That's the closest I can get to a 144Hz IPS panel 1440p. There are no other decent options in my country.
 
Well the Alienware ultrawide is a gsync monitor and it is a 100Hz IPS panel and can overclock to 120Hz.

That's the closest I can get to a 144Hz IPS panel 1440p. There are no other decent options in my country.

Definitely let me know what you think about it if you purchase it. There are a lot of people who love ultrawides
 
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