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That makes no sense what makes sense is yea I would be waiting a year but I’ll be invensting in a platform where I will have a future upgrade path then invest in a platform that will no longer be used next year and I won’t have any upgrade path

But from what I understand the 3600 should be fine till I do upgrade

Am I wrong ?

hello anyone here lol
What will you use the processor for?
 
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I think, that If you need now or in the near future more powerfull system, it'll be fine to upgrade now. What i'm afraid of, is that when the new technologies (am5, ddr5 pcie5, what ever) are ready and available they will cost you an arm and leg. And both kidneys. And at least i would wait a year or two after that to follow the prices, where they are going.

It would be nice to upgrade to 5000- series cpu myself, but my mb doesn't support those. Ever. So i'm one of those waiting for future and better financial times.
 
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Get Vermeer. It has just released. AM5 will come with DDR5 memory and other new features which WILL BE either very expensive/unstable/not even that good. Early X99 customers got robbed by early DDR4 2133/2400 kits, and it took 2 years for it to be worthwhile over DDR3. It will happen again with DDR5. Not to mention the thing will release at least this time next year.
 
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Get Vermeer. It has just released. AM5 will come with DDR5 memory and other new features which WILL BE either very expensive/unstable/not even that good. Early X99 customers got robbed by early DDR4 2133/2400 kits, and it took 2 years for it to be worthwhile over DDR3. It will happen again with DDR5. Not to mention the thing will release at least this time next year.
That was exactly my reasoning as well, deciding to update to Ryzen 5000. DDR5 will not be fully mature until 2023 mark me.
 
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DDR5 will not be fully mature until 2023 mark me.
I wouldn't worry about maturity in the first place but the price.
3600 Ryzen is plenty for what you need.
 
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I wouldn't worry about maturity in the first place but the price.
3600 Ryzen is plenty for what you need.
I'm not the OP.
 
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I'm not the OP.
Yeah I know but you still said go 5000 series due to maturity of the AM5 and RAM which will be ok in 2023 so no point to wait go 5000 series.
Considering the most think OP will do is play, the 3600 is plenty and there's no need for 5000 series now.
 
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Yeah I know but you still said go 5000 series due to maturity of the AM5 and RAM which will be ok in 2023 so no point to wait go 5000 series.
Considering the most think OP will do is play, the 3600 is plenty and there's no need for 5000 series now.
I didn't say that. I said I got the 5000 series because I don't want to be an early adapter for DDR5.
 
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but overall is the 3600 still sufficient for a 3080 ?
You've created 2 different threads that have answer this question (one thread of which the title was literally "will a 3600 bottleneck a 3080") and yet you still keep asking the same question over and over

This question has been answered by over 10 different users, please stop asking it or go re-read your previous threads
 
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Be sure to wait for am7.
And when here, buy am6.
am5 by no means because it's worth nothing now. :)
 

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Wait for the Ryzen 6000 serie, when the 6000 is here you can better wait for the 7000 serie, but when the 7000 serie is here you can wait for the 8000 serie......

Just buy now and don’t wait, waiting for new releases is not very smart.
Poor advice from an impatient person.
 

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Outdatted is an over-exagerrated term (especially for CPU). The amount of people that keep there CPU for 5+ years is extremely high, especially if they don't have a super picky/specific need for it.
Yup, 2700K here - a decade old and still runs my games fine (see specs). I'll upgrade to Alder Lake when that comes out. The difference is gonna be huge!

Basically, upgrade if you really want the latest tech, otherwise, whatever you've got is probably just fine.
 
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Poor advice from an impatient person.
:( Gee which. You join the site, enter a thread, quote a post that is more than 3 months and you one and only post is just to criticize another? Is there a better definition of a troll? I think not.
 

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:( Gee which. You join the site, enter a thread, quote a post that is more than 3 months and you one and only post is just to criticize another? Is there a better definition of a troll? I think not.
I think you mean "gee whiz", but yes, let me just remove my post because the fact that my point still stands was found to be unfortunate by some other person who also joined in on the 3 months old thread, just to say that, along with the idea that my point was probably trolling or something.
 
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Yes, whiz. But note I didn't just join. I've been involved in this thread almost from the very beginning in November - which is how I was notified.

Also note the person you quoted at least offered some advice - which others agreed also with. You? You have done nothing but criticize - not even bothering to offer any advice. So yes, you are just a troll and I will now give you all the attention you deserve.
 

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Yes, whiz. But note I didn't just join. I've been involved in this thread almost from the very beginning in November - which is how I was notified.

Also note the person you quoted at least offered some advice - which others agreed also with. You? You have done nothing but criticize - not even bothering to offer any advice. So yes, you are just a troll and I will now give you all the attention you deserve.
No, that person didn't give advice. They just regurgitated everybody else's groupthink of "waiting = bad" - without any additional input whatsoever, if I may add.

Actual reason why you _should_ generally wait is because with hardware it's often good idea to stick with what you have for as long as possible.

So if in one year's time or less you can indeed get a better build for the next 5 or 6, or indeed the same build for cheaper, I don't see how that's "not very smart". Zen 3+ already looks to be confirmed for Q3-Q4 this year with *noticeable* improvements.

As for AM5 / Zen 4, that stuff seems Q3 2022 with DDR5, so unless you'd be able to get a board with DDR4-compatibility built-in (as history tells us, DDR3 and DDR4 were both immature/unstable "new wave" tech for the first 1-2 years), I'd skip that cycle.
 

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The best of AM4 is with Zen 3 imo.. That being said whatever they drop into an AM5 socket should be pretty sick..

There is always something new just around the corner..
 
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I have a 3600 and a 3080 but I am gaming at 3440 x 1440 so I don't really feel that "bottleneck" that gets thrown around.

The only thing that temps me to upgrade is core count as I do streaming sometimes and have a lot of background applications while doing so.

However, from what I am experiencing. I can't see any reason to upgrade aside from the "upgrade itch."

BTW, if you constantly use dlss, the higher IPC of the 5000 series would have higher frame rates. You are effectively rendering the game at a lower res and the gpu does its magic to make it show higher res.
 
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Yup, 2700K here - a decade old and still runs my games fine (see specs). I'll upgrade to Alder Lake when that comes out. The difference is gonna be huge!

Basically, upgrade if you really want the latest tech, otherwise, whatever you've got is probably just fine.
That's a smart plan; new architecture coupled with a slightly superior process is guaranteed to blow Zen3 out of the water at least as far as gaming goes and is likely to have a notable advantage even over Zen4 which might arrive half a year later to begin with...
 
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Yup, 2700K here - a decade old and still runs my games fine (see specs). I'll upgrade to Alder Lake when that comes out. The difference is gonna be huge!

Basically, upgrade if you really want the latest tech, otherwise, whatever you've got is probably just fine.
I'm still rocking the 3770k with 2060S. No point in upgrading yet, not a single game that I can't run well and windows boots quick
 
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Yeah, Sandy/Ivy Bridge i7s (properly OCed and coupled with fast ram) still hang in there, especially if you're not after high refresh rates (i.e. you have a 60 or 75Hz monitor, or even a 100 one) which is quite remarkable considering their age and a testament to ow great of an architecture that was! (AMD offerings from that era crap their pants at the mere thought of running any modern game, well at least at more than 30fps, lol)
 

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hey guys i was wondering if i should get a 5900x now or wait for am5 and just get a new mobo and cpu
(if am5 is scheduled to come out next year ill just wait)

AM5 needs to come out this year.
 
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It would be prudent, but they don't even promise that themselves, so I think there's no chance of that and besides, a completely new platform from AMD isn't something one should jump into for at least the first couple of months...
 
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