New RTX 5090 + 9800X3D build: ASUS TUF GAMING X670E-PLUS WIFI a good choice?

[Hankieroseman]

ull be sick to ur stomach ifu knew the performace diff of that crappy board cpmpared to this 1....also dont skimp or cheap out on psu..... overkill here will give u many happy years of using the same psu im cuurently on my 13th year on same psu..... been in 3 builds

Check system specs although it has the power it;s not ATX 3.0. NO 12VHPWR at the PSU

 

[AMF]

Check system specs although it has the power it;s not ATX 3.0. NO 12VHPWR at the PSU

what im sayin is if u buy a new one .. make it a exceptional one

Check system specs although it has the power it;s not ATX 3.0. NO 12VHPWR at the PSU

https://www.newegg.com/seasonic-ssr-1300tr2-1300-w-80-plus-titanium-certified/p/N82E16817151261

 

[Hankieroseman]

My first custom built cheap computer my brother built for me in 2000, PSU exploded on the desktop in the middle of combat flight simulator2. Always bought good ones after that and don't remember any other failures in 24 years.

 

[AMF]

My first custom built cheap computer my brother built for me in 2000, PSU exploded on the desktop in the middle of combat flight simulator2. Always bought good ones after that and don't remember any other failures in 24 years.

i paused unreal tornament back in theday had to piss..... i heard pop ,,,, walked in room and flames coming out of psu game andf pc was still running lol luckily i had a cup of water on desk i dumped in from rear vent after i unplugged it.... no other parts were harmed

 

[Hankieroseman]

what im sayin is if u buy a new one .. make it a exceptional one

https://www.newegg.com/seasonic-ssr-1300tr2-1300-w-80-plus-titanium-certified/p/N82E16817151261

be quiet! came out with a cable that took care of the 4x8-pin 12VHPWR for their PSU and it was perfect for the 4090.

 

[AMF]

be quiet! came out with a cable that took care of the 4x8-pin 12VHPWR for their PSU and it was perfect for the 4090.

i know it works but i just hate using adapters so bulky n ugly lol Seasonic SS-1250XM2 Bought in 2013 https://www.techpowerup.com/review/seasonic-ss-1250xm2/

 

[Hankieroseman]

i know it works but i just hate using adapters so bulky n ugly lol

It eliminated the ugly bulky ASUS adapter and the CableMod adapter they refunded my money to destroy.

 

[bernxrdo]

Chipset doesn't say much, for example we had things like the B550 Taichi or the ROG Strix B550-E (I had one) that had a B550 chipset but were otherwise high-end boards, but we also had some pretty bad X570's, this didn't change with the AM5 socket. Of course, it's relative if anything, but I personally consider a motherboard that doesn't even have a q-code reader, has plastic slots and VRM circuitry on the cheap side to be "budget"

Do you have any suggestions, good budget boards for the 9800X3D ?

 

[Dr. Dro]

Do you have any suggestions, good budget boards for the 9800X3D ?

I can help, but it depends on how much are you looking to spend

 

[bernxrdo]

I can help, but it depends on how much are you looking to spend

I`m brazilian too, somewhere between R$2000-R$3000

 

[Dr. Dro]

I`m brazilian too, somewhere between R$2000-R$3000

That's good money, you can get something super nice with that much. I'd probably pick this one with that budget for a 9800X3D

Placa-Mãe MSI MAG X870 Tomahawk WiFi, AMD, AM5, DDR5, ATX, Chipset X870, Wi-Fi 7 e Bluetooth 5.4, Preto - MAG X870 TOMAHAWK WIFI

As melhores Placa Mãe para seu PC estão aqui no KaBuM! Garanta já a sua!

www.kabum.com.br

If not that, this would be next

https://www.terabyteshop.com.br/produto/23605/placa-mae-asus-rog-strix-b650e-e-gaming-wifi-chipset-b650-amd-am5-atx-ddr5-90mb1bb0-m0eay0

 

[bernxrdo]

That's good money, you can get something super nice with that much. I'd probably pick this one with that budget for a 9800X3D

Placa-Mãe MSI MAG X870 Tomahawk WiFi, AMD, AM5, DDR5, ATX, Chipset X870, Wi-Fi 7 e Bluetooth 5.4, Preto - MAG X870 TOMAHAWK WIFI

As melhores Placa Mãe para seu PC estão aqui no KaBuM! Garanta já a sua!

www.kabum.com.br

If not that, this would be next

https://www.terabyteshop.com.br/produto/23605/placa-mae-asus-rog-strix-b650e-e-gaming-wifi-chipset-b650-amd-am5-atx-ddr5-90mb1bb0-m0eay0

What you think about this RAM (https://www.kabum.com.br/produto/52...000mhz-ddr5-cl30-preto-ax5u6000c3016g-dclarbk) ?
The only 6000 cl30 set I could find.

 

[stahlhart]

I'm not telling the dude to go and buy a X870E Godlike, you know. But at least something that has a q-code reader, higher quality PCB, and higher priority BIOS support - after all, it is a high-performance machine.

Just the Q-code reader alone is pretty much a minimum requirement for us now, going forward.

 

[Dr. Dro]

What you think about this RAM (https://www.kabum.com.br/produto/52...000mhz-ddr5-cl30-preto-ax5u6000c3016g-dclarbk) ?
The only 6000 cl30 set I could find.

It will work just fine. You can always cross reference the QVL list for the motherboard you choose and a memory kit you want too guarantee the best compatibility but that kit should work on both of these motherboards

Just the Q-code reader alone is pretty much a minimum requirement for us now, going forward.

Yeah I heavily lean towards boards that have it. Invaluable tool to troubleshoot instead of relying on a single color LED

 

[stahlhart]

Side question: with the emerging popularity of this AMD processor, has all of the rage about 8000+ RAM speeds been at least temporarily cast aside, at least until AMD catches up, either with improved IMCs or CUDIMMs?

The second question would be whether or not RAM speeds are all that "meta" as some claim, unless it's for something like esports or online twitch shooters. Can anyone produce metrics or examples for where it makes a difference? Benchmarks don't count.

 

[Chicken Patty]

the X870E chipset didn't seem to be much of an upgrade so i opted for the X670E chipset and went with the ASUS TUF Gaming mobo

do you think i'll be okay with a 2x24GB DDR5 + RTX 5090 + 9800X3D setup for the long haul?

Reference: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-t...-6e-motherboard-black/6523727.p?skuId=6523727

I built my 7800X3D with a 4090 as something that was going to be future proof and I am so glad I did it. Have no issues running any games, yet even at 4K. I can only imagine what you want to build/buy is even more future proof. If the budget is no issue I say go for it. As long as the board has all the features you need, I think you're golden.

 

[phanbuey]

Side question: with the emerging popularity of this AMD processor, has all of the rage about 8000+ RAM speeds been at least temporarily cast aside, at least until AMD catches up, either with improved IMCs or CUDIMMs?

The second question would be whether or not RAM speeds are all that "meta" as some claim, unless it's for something like esports or online twitch shooters. Can anyone produce metrics or examples for where it makes a difference? Benchmarks don't count.

Intel benefits from the 8000+ ram but with the new processor they lose to 6000 ram at 1/3 the price so it's kind of a meh -- cast aside for AMD - Still super important if you're running intel.

The only difference between x3d and non-x3d chips is the cache, all cache really does is alleviate the ram speed / latency bottleneck - FPS boosts across the board.

There are tons of videos of ram timings and speed improving FPS across the board. X3D chips still care, just not as much, about ram as non-x3d.

Ryzen 7 7800X3D, Ryzen 5 9600X DDR5 Memory Scaling [6200MHz CL28 vs CL34 vs 7800 CL38]

 

[LittleBro]

Side question: with the emerging popularity of this AMD processor, has all of the rage about 8000+ RAM speeds been at least temporarily cast aside, at least until AMD catches up, either with improved IMCs or CUDIMMs?

The second question would be whether or not RAM speeds are all that "meta" as some claim, unless it's for something like esports or online twitch shooters. Can anyone produce metrics or examples for where it makes a difference? Benchmarks don't count.

X3D CPUs are much lower dependend on memory speed. Classic Zen 4 does scale a bit with memory, or with tighter timings.

8000 MT/s speeds are spossible with Zen 5 but bring next to none advancements in terms of performance.
Maybe 8200 or 8400 MT/s might be very slightly (less than 1%) better than 6000 MHz.

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