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NIBITOR 5.6 up for grabs after a donation to MKVTECH

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That's a helpful post.:rolleyes: I welcome you to explain your point of view. Why should developers not be compensated for their work? Can you give me a good reason why not?
Cus I dont wanna:roll:

Sorry, on topic, I completely get the idea here. I mean is $5-10 really going to break any of you?

I dont think they mean with every update, I assume those would be free for a bit at least. No one should work for free, granted Id love my doctor too, but it isnt likely to happen.
 

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That's a helpful post.:rolleyes: I welcome you to explain your point of view. Why should developers not be compensated for their work? Can you give me a good reason why not?
I was going to type out my feelings on your comment, but anything close to how i actually feel would just get me an infraction. So all im going to say is wow....just wow.

Way to undermine the hard work of free ware devs everywhere and way to attack all of the people who use the free ware provided.

gonna log off before i get myself banned :mad:
 

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I was going to type out my feelings on your comment, but anything close to how i actually feel would just get me an infraction. So all im going to say is wow....just wow.

Way to undermine the hard work of free ware devs everywhere and way to attack all of the people who use the free ware provided.

gonna log off before i get myself banned :mad:
Yeah, it's best you take a break, especially if someone's opinion on such a topic gets you that upset. Undermining freeware devs? How, by thinking they shouldn't starve? Like I said before, people often feel entitled to things, which I think is wrong. Thing is, often freeware developers create software as a hobby, but as it becomes popular and useful, it becomes work, and they should be compensated for it.
 

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Well somehow but that should have happened a year ago, now it pops up cause it is annoying tweakers from playing with the Fermi BIOS. Oh well, criticism isn't an issue but that simple suggestion, I wait till it is leaked... And just a simple mind tweaker, if every downloader would have donated voluntary $1 for NiBiTor (not for every single version) or actually shown appreciation before when there was no exclusive period than we would just had let it be as before. But the complains are always coming afterwards. Each will have their own thoughts about it, so I guess becoming one of the persons you will hate for now is something I will have to live with...
so it will get leaked, you will pirate it, nobody pays for it, developer gets fed up and stops development altogether.

why not send the guy some money as a token of appreciation? you spend thousands of dollars on hardware and can't give 10 bucks to a software developer?
$10 bucks. That would be nice.

Quality free software will die because of piracy and a total lack of support. I worked it out once and for every 30 users of RealTemp I receive approximately 1 cent. That's not an average of 1 cent from each user. That's combined.

For every 30 users of RealTemp that use the program each and every day, they get together and ask each other, "What do you think we should give the guy so he can afford to eat? How about a penny? Does anyone here have a penny? I got one. Good enough, that's plenty. That should keep the developer going for a while."

It really is that insane. Developers throw a huge amount of time into their projects and we're not looking to get rich but being able to afford a new piece of hardware once in a while would be nice so I could do some more development for the user community. Besides, I need to eat too. Total donations so far barely cover the cost of the temperature gun I bought for my projects let alone the CPUs, etc. It's been a complete loss but I'd do it again because I enjoy helping others.

I've been forced to make the decision to wind things down and to walk away from the user community. Nibitor is a great program so throw the developer some spare change, anything or he will be gone too.
These are talented programmers, who love doing apps like this and having thousands of people use them.

The sense I'm getting from these posts quoted above, is that it's not so much about the money, but the appreciation - or lack of it that pisses them off. And rightly so.

Now, I haven't done any programming for years and it was certainly nothing as intricate as these utilities, but I know how much hard work and frustration (when it doesn't work) goes into writing programs.

I can imagine it's not very nice to give something useful like this away and instead of getting praised for it, put on a well deserved pedestal and allowed to feel like The Man, get unconstructive criticism and whinging posters wanting lots more features, all to be delivered tomorrow and with no support from the community or hardware companies. :banghead: Ultimately, it's those hardware companies that should really be paying up, because these utilities make their products much more useful to prospective customers and boost sales. Can you imagine just how good these utilities would be if the developers were properly funded by them and supplied with all the necessary technical data and support to really make a first rate product? You wouldn't worry about "piracy" then, would you? It's these companies that profit off your back with greater sales are the ones you should really direct your anger at, not your users.

I haven't a problem with paying a few pounds for these apps, be they donations or a standard pay model, however.

Regarding the piracy angle, I don't think you should get too hung up on it or demonize people that copy your stuff for free - they have not stolen from you: you still have your copy, there's simply one more, which they have. Anyone that doesn't pay wouldn't have anyway, plus it distributes your product much more widely, so anyone that sees it and is inclined to pay, will do so. It's more of a moral question, rather than a financial one, unlike what Big Media with their lawyers and pocket politicians would have you believe.

The music, movie and software industries are far too hung up on this and think that "stamping out piracy" will suddenly bring in lots more revenue. It doesn't and all the offensive DRM and lawsuits just alienates people that want to support you by being your customer. They've certainly driven me away - and I don't even copy stuff. I mean hey, look at the RIAAs lawsuit strategy. Worked a treat, didn't it? :rolleyes:

Two excellent sites on this: www.techdirt.com & www.p2pnet.net
 
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My only problem with the OP is that it says donation when it should say fee. Paying for access to a product and donating money to the developer are two very different things. I wish you luck, and I hope that your tool isn't leaked so you can continue supporting it. I'd look into it if I had a Fermi card.
its not a fee its a donation and they send you the unreleased version of NiBitor to say thanks.
 
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its not a fee its a donation and they send you the unreleased version of NiBitor to say thanks.
That is a fee. A cost to have a product delivered. A donation is something that is freely given with nothing wanted in return.
 
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That is a fee. A cost to have a product delivered. A donation is something that is freely given with nothing wanted in return.
NiBiTor is pre-released to donators as an incentive for donating. Once enough donations are accumulated, the program is released to the general public as freeware.
 
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NiBiTor is pre-released to donators as an incentive for donating. Once enough donations are accumulated, the program is released to the general public as freeware.
Well that's a whole lot different!
 
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NiBiTor is pre-released to donators as an incentive for donating. Once enough donations are accumulated, the program is released to the general public as freeware.
+1 i donated but it didn't have any fan speed control in it yet ill have to wait i guess.
 

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#35
Well somehow but that should have happened a year ago, now it pops up cause it is annoying tweakers from playing with the Fermi BIOS. Oh well, criticism isn't an issue but that simple suggestion, I wait till it is leaked... And just a simple mind tweaker, if every downloader would have donated voluntary $1 for NiBiTor (not for every single version) or actually shown appreciation before when there was no exclusive period than we would just had let it be as before. But the complains are always coming afterwards. Each will have their own thoughts about it, so I guess becoming one of the persons you will hate for now is something I will have to live with...
Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm all for you making a little on it. You did put your time and effort into, after all. Just that you know people are gonna bitch about it. If I had fermi, I'd happily throw a few dollars your way for the program. It did wonders for my 8800GT's.
 
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#36
the obvious solution is for you to leak some illegal copies yourself set to self destruct the cards.. that will teach those no good thieving scumbags, you can even put in a timer so it wont destruct right away so a large pirate-bay following will get rolling and then BAM overnight thousands of fermis fry up
 

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the obvious solution is for you to leak some illegal copies yourself set to self destruct the cards.. that will teach those no good thieving scumbags
No, two wrongs don't make a right. Plus, he could get in serious trouble for doing it, and that's the last thing I would want to see.
 
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How long must I wait, for Nibitor 5.6 ? I made yesterday (29.05) a donation, of 10 Dollars, but I get no Email !
 
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How long must I wait, for Nibitor 5.6 ? I made yesterday (29.05) a donation, of 10 Dollars, but I get no Email !
post a screenshot of the invoice of the donation and your email and ill send it though
 
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@Live or die

I delete the screenshot, you have my email-Adresses, if you want I send it to you again.

I am a little bit affraid with such data in the I-Net.
 
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Just an update every donator is getting it, but I am not every single second at my computer to just check. So I do it once of twice a day and sent the exclusive version out. So you will have gotten it since yesterday. ;-)
 
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Mavke will there be an update to 5.6 ill like to see fan speed settings
 

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So, can you tell me why I get nothing ! It is first of June and I got no Email.

I wrote two emails and get no answer. I delete the version, I got from "life or die" ! Maybe I send the GTX 480 back.
 
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So, can you tell me why I get nothing ! It is first of June and I got no Email.

I wrote two emails and get no answer. I delete the version, I got from "life or die" ! Maybe I send the GTX 480 back.
the version i got is the same as the ones hes sending out give him time that version was only a beta.
 
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#46
this just needs to be sold... why beat around the freeware bush?

'donations'... like we're in the mafia :D. sell it! put it on steam! I'll buy it.
 

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i agree with a small fee. it does become work EVEN if you enjoy doing it. "then how is it work sol?" because people start demanding it. you get relentless e-mails like wtf bro? I imagine mvk and w1zz cant be that much different in their methods than myself. When im working on my disk. money goes too.

CD's/DVD's (i need to test the iso on real disks not VM's and on multiple PC's)

Printer ink for labels

Electric bill

coffee

cigarettes

sandwich stuff.

the last 3 usually being the most important.
 

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Don't get me wrong, I have payed (10 Dollars) and I show "life or die" the bill, from ChipIN.

I never will Do something illegal, and good software has to be payed.

But I recieved nothing, from mavke, no Email.

So I go the other way, I make a case open in Paypal, so easy.
 

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Don't get me wrong, I have payed (10 Dollars) and I show "life or die" the bill, from ChipIN.

I never will Do something illegal, and good software has to be payed.

But I recieved nothing, from mavke, no Email.

So I go the other way, I make a case open in Paypal.
um. so instead of PM'ing him your e-mail address again incase you typed it wrong the first time. or talking to him directly. or heeding what he said about not checking his PC often your going to dispute with him in paypal? did i get that about right?
 

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You must exuse my english, I did not understand the last part.

I never write my email-Adress wrong !

A Paypal Transaction comes with the right email-adress.