OFFICIAL No Man's Sky (Discussion)

[FordGT90Concept]

Like I said above if it has crazy (infinite) amount of places (or even times) to go I could play it forever.

It does as demonstrated by the gameplay videos but there are still only so many variables and when you pick up on them, you'll start losing interest because more exploring only leads to more of the same. Minecraft suffers from the same problem as does virtual every game that has random world generation. The only thing that separates an excellent open world game (like Terraria) from a "meh" open world game (like Starbound) is ratio of variables to world size. Most of us pumped a ton of time into Skyrim, for example, because it has a ton of variables going from one dungeon to the next (not to mention all of the narratives/quests). None of us likely put as much time into GTA4 because the variables are far more constrained--once you finish the story there's really very little left to discover. The developers haven't really given us a sense of how many variables are present (gameplay videos show about the same degree of variability as Spore has) so it's unknown until someone plays it long enough to get a sense of it.

 

[marmiteonpizza]

It does as demonstrated by the gameplay videos but there are still only so many variables and when you pick up on them, you'll start losing interest because more exploring only leads to more of the same. Minecraft suffers from the same problem as does virtual every game that has random world generation. The only thing that separates an excellent open world game (like Terraria) from a "meh" open world game (like Starbound) is ratio of variables to world size. Most of us pumped a ton of time into Skyrim, for example, because it has a ton of variables going from one dungeon to the next (not to mention all of the narratives/quests). None of us likely put as much time into GTA4 because the variables are far more constrained--once you finish the story there's really very little left to discover. The developers haven't really given us a sense of how many variables are present (gameplay videos show about the same degree of variability as Spore has) so it's unknown until someone plays it long enough to get a sense of it.

I take it that Elite: Dangerous probably isn't up your street?

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Never played it but would like to.

 

[Drone]

It does as demonstrated by the gameplay videos but there are still only so many variables and when you pick up on them, you'll start losing interest because more exploring only leads to more of the same. Minecraft suffers from the same problem as does virtual every game that has random world generation. The only thing that separates an excellent open world game (like Terraria) from a "meh" open world game (like Starbound) is ratio of variables to world size. Most of us pumped a ton of time into Skyrim, for example, because it has a ton of variables going from one dungeon to the next (not to mention all of the narratives/quests). None of us likely put as much time into GTA4 because the variables are far more constrained--once you finish the story there's really very little left to discover. The developers haven't really given us a sense of how many variables are present (gameplay videos show about the same degree of variability as Spore has) so it's unknown until someone plays it long enough to get a sense of it.

Honestly, I haven't played either of that games you said, but every game has limitations (technical or because of devs' limited imagination/knowledge). But even quasi-open world games can offer lots of variables.

I've played Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes; Sons of Liberty; Snake Eater; Portable Ops for .. I dunno 50 times or so. I always played them differently and still ... I haven't discovered everything and I haven't encountered every possible situation/dialogue/ending.

Same could be said about Crisis Core: FF VII, The Last Story or Kingdom Hearts.

Same here bud!

Hi 5!

 

[marmiteonpizza]

Never played it but would like to.

Hmm, I don't think you'd enjoy it for long, as it's the same as this game with objectives, only that there's a lot less detail. In other words, you can only land in star ports (there are only a handful of different types) and fly around solar systems, not landing on any planets.
I still enjoy it though, because it's a space sim and I know there isn't meant to be any story and it's really authentic representation of space piloting.

I do get a little bored with it from time-to-time though due to not being able to explore much; there are beautiful planets and vistas to see, but that's it really, you can't touch down and explore every little intricate details on planets.
So NMS to me is going to be an enhanced version of ED.

Hi 5!

 

[Easy Rhino]

i love videogames, but if i am going to spend time exploring vast worlds then i am going to do it in real life.

 

[marmiteonpizza]

i love videogames, but if i am going to spend time exploring vast worlds then i am going to do it in real life.

Tell me when you've built a spaceship

 

[Easy Rhino]

Tell me when you've built a spaceship

You know what I mean. Virtual worlds are great but you won't find me spending hours on end exploring a virtual galaxy when I can explore the real world. A lifetime is not even close to enough time to explore the immediate area around you. Like I said, I love video games but there has to be a limit. I bet most people who play this game stop playing after 10 hours as they realize the work they are putting into it could be better spent on real life.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

You clearly don't live in Iowa. XD

 

[marmiteonpizza]

You know what I mean. Virtual worlds are great but you won't find me spending hours on end exploring a virtual galaxy when I can explore the real world. A lifetime is not even close to enough time to explore the immediate area around you. Like I said, I love video games but there has to be a limit. I bet most people who play this game stop playing after 10 hours as they realize the work they are putting into it could be better spent on real life.

Okay I appreciate that
But don't get me wrong, I too love exploring our own world! I've been to many countries across the globe, done a lot of hiking in various mountain ranges and plan on going to a lot more places in the future. I just love the imagination of virtual worlds as well as our physical one, which cannot be beaten in immersion and realism.

Just discovered that Hello Games' studio is not too far from where I live

 

[Drone]

Metroid Prime Hunters and Metroid Prime Corruption had perfectly realized ideas, there were planets with different atmospheric pressures, different day-night cycles and even different gravity. Samus could travel between planets in several solar systems and explore them. She could use either her spacecraft (for really distant planets) or wormholes. Of course Metroid games are based on tough puzzles and boss battles but I've never seen any other game that had so many different planets and life forms (devs made them as much scientifically correct as possible). Dammit, why there's no 4th Metroid game? But thankfully there's No Man's Sky.

 

[marmiteonpizza]

What would be cool, is if there was a chat function like in many online games, but people only receive your messages on their chat feed if you're in a certain radius from each other.
This would be extremely rare as being close to another player will be infrequent, but you could send messages asking if there's anyone out there, and getting a message back would bring an awesome feeling

 

[marmiteonpizza]

This sheds a lot of light on the game's economy and trading system; I know there are quite a few people who have big doubts about it, so hopefully this will be of interest

 

[Drone]

Nice video. Trading reminds me of old Elite. Kinda funny how he was talking about synthesizing elements. The thing is it's easier to extract elements from moons and asteroids.

 

[lilhasselhoffer]

So it's Eve Online, with the ability to get out of your ships and not smothered by people who have already spent the better part of a decade making anything a new player does very limited (unless they want to get curb stomped).


More Molyneux tingles. God, I hope I'm wrong.

 

[Easy Rhino]

The creator just said on Colbert that the likelihood of running into any other players is very small. So it is basically a single player game.

 

[marmiteonpizza]

The creator just said on Colbert that the likelihood of running into any other players is very small. So it is basically a single player game.

Not necessarily though, this game is about the potential of countless things, and running into another player is one of those potentials!

Once again, it's the light you put the facts into that make them look good or bad; running into other players being a rarity will no doubt make it even more special when you do actually come across someone.
And as Sean Murray said (in that same interview or another one, I can't remember), NMS isn't anything like an MMO - it's mainly meant to be a singleplayer experience, but with the possibility of running into other players.

This game is not meant to be categorised, it's neither singleplayer nor multiplayer.
In every way possible, it is its own game.

 

[Drone]

two new trailers

 

[Easy Rhino]

It does look interesting. Still wish there was a way to meet up with people. But I guess that goes against the games philosophy.

 

[Guitar]

Somebody will find a way. It will happen. Now, whether or not it takes 25 real days to fly to the planet that your friend is on is another story lol.

 

[Vario]

I fairly am excited for this game.
However, hopefully the emptiness and procedural generation doesn't lend itself to a bland grind game.

 

[Easy Rhino]

I fairly am excited for this game.
However, hopefully the emptiness and procedural generation doesn't lend itself to a bland grind game.

i think it is going to be one of those games that people slightly on the autistic spectrum will love because the actions are repetitive but the environments change just enough to make it interesting.

 

[marmiteonpizza]

It appears that most people nowadays just want to be able to do loads of stuff in games, and that's what keeps them happy.
I however, have always loved exploring and being able to explore freely, not just in gaming, but in the real world too - I love exploring places of beauty, or places I'm not allowed to enter in the real world.
I cannot explore a whole universe in the real world though, but I can in this game!

*Emotional sob*

I've also been frustrated in games where you're limited physically when I can say to myself that if I were that character, I'd easily be able to climb over that wall to see what was on the other side for example.
But this game has no irrational physical boundaries like that from what I've seen in the last 3 years

 

[z1tu]

i think it is going to be one of those games that people slightly on the autistic spectrum will love because the actions are repetitive but the environments change just enough to make it interesting.

Your face is slightly autistic But on a more serious note, it looks like a great game so far, and definitely not an easy one.

 

[Guitar]

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