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NVIDIA Confirms Issues Cropping Up With Turing-based Cards, "It's Not a Broad Issue"

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#51
I just didnt like your comment "Don’t minimize it just because you are blinded by brand loyalty." you think you know but you don't..
-shrugs- OK, disagree and don’t like it, but no reason to explode on a hair trigger like you did.
 
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RTX release was a joke from day one. Wait till 3Q 2019 and you will get RTX on 7 nm dies for decent prices as response to AMD 7 nm Vega mid range launch. Mark my words, you will be able to get NVidia's RTX 2070 7nm equivalent for 400 $ and AMDs 7nm "Vega 64" for 350 $. RTX 2080 performance cards probably for 500 $ but 2080TI will stay expensive as AMD will not have high end answer till 2020 if at all. Now is the worse time to buy GPU (ok cryptocraze was even worse). It's NVidia's consumer milking season till AMD comes out with 7nm gaming GPUs. If AMD can't deliver GTX 2070 performance for 350 $, Nvidia's higher end milking season will continue throughout 2019.
But strangely we dont have any Techpowerup RTX owners fliping out over this? out of all these 10000's of RTX owners flipping out none seem to be flipping out here ? backing up their are 10000's of people left without being able to game and it's become a Massive Problem for RTX full stop ... how strange ?

more beer Vicor ....

Someone start a Poll ffs LETS DO THIS ..... lol sorry cant help meself at this point ....
 
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Let's be brutally honest. Nvidia for all their dominance is out of touch with their consumer base. Gtx 1070 memory issues was a big problem but their response to that is even more of a fiasco.fast forward couple months the game branding issue to suppliers which in my opinion was their worst act. And again their excuse for that was even worse. Basically branding their consumers idiots who can not read or understand. Now this. A pretty much rushed gpu that is not ready and well they had 2 years to be prepared for it whilst charging 50% more. Now I play very few games and the ones I play, nvdia have at least 20% advantage to AMD equivalent and in a world where I have to squeeze every little juice to play at 144mhz it is very important. But not this time for me. I probably will suffer some fps but I will go for AMD this time.principles define what you are.
 
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Here's the actual thing:
people buy a box with a product in it. The box says it has specs so-and-so. The product in the box did not meet those specifications. When the product is pushed to a supported configuration called SLI, performance becomes inconsistent. Fast forward to 2018: most games require over 4GB for decent IQ settings and the 970's core can easily push that, but VRAM is now holding it back. Ever since its release, the 970 has fallen down the performance charts more rapidly than other 4GB cards. Its small, but the trend is there and you could already see single digit performance losses beyond what you'd expect shortly after it launched. When we get 2% from drivers we all download them, but when we lose 3-4% because of being misled, we don't care?? Rather odd IMO.

"The card did have 4GB on it". Do you say the same when they market a GDDR5 card and you find DDR3 on it? Because essentially, the effect of the way the die was cut, meant that one memory chip had access to bandwidth that was about as slow as system RAM. These memory setups are not new to Nvidia. They've done it with Fermi, they've done it with Kepler. But never was it such a crappy job as this one, for example, the GTX 660 had 128-bit width for 1.5GB of its memory and a 64-bit width for the remaining 0.5GB. Sound familiar? Put those in SLI and you have a stutterfest even when you underclock the core.

It was long overdue they took the fall for this. The fact you didn't see the problem doesn't mean its not there. And lo and behold: Pascal has nice, evenly cut up GPUs that handle memory b/w in a different way. But we still get 1060's with, now, over five different VRAM setups...

Regardless, my mentioning of it was a reference to how trustworthy these Nvidia statements are and how the real world works just a tad different from that.
That's what I keep saying. According to some Nvidiots it would be ok if the 2080 Ti had an extra 16-bit bus reading 9GB of DDR2, and advertised "20GB of graphics memory!"
 
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But strangely we dont have any Techpowerup RTX owners fliping out over this? out of all these 10000's of RTX owners flipping out none seem to be flipping out here ? backing up their are 10000's of people left without being able to game and it's become a Massive Problem for RTX full stop ... how strange ?
Not a lot of RTX 2080 TI were produced/sold (even NVidia's support centers admit that ) and having such high numbers of complaints is not marginal. Even Forbes writes about it. NVidia's main target for 2018/1H2019 is to sell all remaining Pascal cards that's why we saw such a shitty pricing on RTX cards. They want Pascal to remain attractive purchase until they sell them all. Then we'll get real RTX cards on 7 nm dies.
 
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Not a lot of RTX 2080 TI were produced/sold (even NVidia's support centers admit that ) and having such high numbers of complaints is not marginal. NVidia's main target for 2018/1H2019 is to sell all remaining Pascal cards that's why we saw such a shitty pricing on RTX cards. They want Pascal to remain attractive purchase until they sell them all. Then we'll get real RTX cards on 7 nm dies.
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"not a broad issue" cue the air quotes, there is nothing wrong, history tells us, nothing wrong move along during that tiny little laptop recall issue in the past
 
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lol...so not only are they insanely overpriced; they are also unreliable. Awesome. No wonder NVidia's stock has been dropping quite a bit for the last 30 days. Hope it keeps dropping. And Turing can rot on the shelf at their price points.
 
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lol...so not only are they insanely overpriced; they are also unreliable. Awesome. No wonder NVidia's stock has been dropping quite a bit for the last 30 days. Hope it keeps dropping. And Turing can rot on the shelf at their price points.
That was NVidia's intend in the first place. Buy 2 yo high profit margin Pascal (we have plenty left cause of mining craze miscalculation) as Turing is buggy and overpriced. Mission accomplished.
 
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and congrats to all winners! better stay with a slightly old but working tech despite the new defective one....
 
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But strangely we dont have any Techpowerup RTX owners fliping out over this? out of all these 10000's of RTX owners flipping out none seem to be flipping out here ? backing up their are 10000's of people left without being able to game and it's become a Massive Problem for RTX full stop ... how strange ?

more beer Vicor ....

Someone start a Poll ffs LETS DO THIS ..... lol sorry cant help meself at this point ....
you're embarassing yourself.
and there are people reporting dead gpus and getting a faulty one as replacement,as well as those who had a broken gpu and recieved money return instead of a replacement.
 
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SAdly,
Or how quickly it gets deleted as a low quality post?????

I like to have fun on forums (well, here, it easy to fire up this crowd of 'enthusiasts', LOL), but I think it has gone too far with that thread and poll.
It's nothing short of genius and a fun factual way of resolving fact from fiction

so far the poll suggests 100% LOL ..... you cant argue with the numbers

make of it what you will

at least i admit from start i voted ...

make your voice heard BY voting :)
 
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It's nothing short of genius and a fun factual way of resolving fact from fiction

so far the poll suggests 100% LOL ..... you cant argue with the numbers

make of it what you will

at least i admit from start i voted ...

make your voice heard BY voting :)
Welcome to my ignore list. Its official, your content is of zero value and all you can do is troll about.

Enjoy that beer
 
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Hardware Unboxed just reported that one of their RTX 2080 TI just died. This is not normal deficiency rate, given that only few thousand RTX 2080 TI has been sold by now:

NVidia will of course deny everything. That's what their corp PR department is for. Never admit a problem until proven wrong and even then minimize it's importance. That's how corporations play the game, Nvidia is no different. Their responsability lies with shareholders not consumers.
 
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Let's be brutally honest. Nvidia for all their dominance is out of touch with their consumer base. Gtx 1070 memory issues was a big problem but their response to that is even more of a fiasco.fast forward couple months the game branding issue to suppliers which in my opinion was their worst act. And again their excuse for that was even worse. Basically branding their consumers idiots who can not read or understand. Now this. A pretty much rushed gpu that is not ready and well they had 2 years to be prepared for it whilst charging 50% more. Now I play very few games and the ones I play, nvdia have at least 20% advantage to AMD equivalent and in a world where I have to squeeze every little juice to play at 144mhz it is very important. But not this time for me. I probably will suffer some fps but I will go for AMD this time.principles define what you are.
Hmm let's be honest Nvidia is doing this only because their loyal customers are willing to shell out extra $ for that last drop of performance.
If more consumers reject this price base RTX would've been DoA, same as Intel's top end or everything Apple.
 
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haha, nvidia. dont have anything to say about this company.
 
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#73
These Fermi 2.0 space heaters are clocked at much higher frequencies to justify the reason to upgrade from Pascal.
1. It's a 265W card vs 250W (Turing FE vs Fermi Reference, 250/250 ref to ref).
2. 1080Ti boost clock is 1582 MHz vs 2080 Ti is 1635 (or 1545 MHz for reference 2080 Ti - even LOWER!!!)
3. 1080Ti to 2080Ti = 25% more performance overall (give or take) with clocks that are ~3.3% higher.....

Good call...:wtf:
 
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-shrugs- OK, disagree and don’t like it, but no reason to explode on a hair trigger like you did.
No you are totally right, I am much more intelligent than that :D , just tiered of every time you give a technical explanation on an issue regardless of company, somebody always plays the "fanboy" card... Get a new deck of card ffs.
 
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1. It's a 265W card vs 250W (Turing FE vs Fermi Reference, 250/250 ref to ref).
2. 1080Ti boost clock is 1582 MHz vs 2080 Ti is 1635 (or 1545 MHz for reference 2080 Ti - even LOWER!!!)
3. 1080Ti to 2080Ti = 25% more performance overall (give or take) with clocks that are ~3.3% higher.....

Good call...:wtf:
4. 3584 vs 4352 cuda cores = 18 % more cuda cores and higher clock frequency for 25% more performance boost.

Not an impressive achievement in my eyes. Especially when considering the price.
 
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