NVIDIA Confirms Issues Cropping Up With Turing-based Cards, "It's Not a Broad Issue"

[ppn]

I don't trust this, needs 5 year warranty. What if it fails on day 1 after the expiration date.

 

[eidairaman1]

I don't trust this, needs 5 year warranty. What if it fails on day 1 after the expiration date.

ATI used to have a 3 year, but that was their card, 3rd Parties were different.

 

[Vayra86]

I don't trust this, needs 5 year warranty. What if it fails on day 1 after the expiration date.

Get an EVGA, their customer service is so good you're almost guaranteed to require it

 

[B-Real]

Once again i am having 0 issues with mine 2080Ti. Overclocked, Stress tested, Used for CUDA computing. Then again the ones with working GPUs are less vocal so yeah.

If you see more than average forum posts with problems, it's fair to say that something is not right with them. Plus you have no idea how many cards were sold and how many were in stock - if we use the Techpowerup poll, maybe 6-10% of the readers bought it. Anyway, keep on being green-eyed.

Milking guys with 1200-1300$ GPU which should be around 800$, having 0 available titles for RT at start, only months later (and if they arrive, it may not even provide enough performance even on FHD with a 1200-1300$ card), and now having these problems. Congrats for the customers.

 

[eidairaman1]

If you see more than average forum posts with problems, it's fair to say that something is not right with them. Anyway, keep on being green-eyed.

Milking guys with 1200-1300$ GPU which should be around 800$, having 0 available titles for RT at start, only months later (and if they arrive, it may not even provide enough performance even on FHD with a 1200-1300$ card), and now having these problems. Congrats for the customers.

GPUs should be around 400-500 for top, not 600+

 

[B-Real]

GPUs should be around 400-500 for top, not 600+

Sorry, wanted to write 700$, as the performance increase is around the 780Ti-980Ti and the 980Ti was cheaper than the 780Ti. But yes, add 50$ for the new tech, that is 700$, which was the MSRP for 1080Ti.

 

[iO]

Sounds like an issue with the GDDR6 memory.

Might be but 2070/80 which use the same memory doesn't seem to be affected.

 

[Vayra86]

Might be but 2070/80 which use the same memory doesn't seem to be affected.

TDP matters. Those GDDR6 chips are on a PCB next to VRM and other heat generators. Its always the high TDP cards that have these sorts of issues and its always either a production or a design mistake. Software doesn't cause gradual failure of a card like its happening here and we've seen the same degradation on EVGA"s 1080 FTWs with heat problems leading to corrupted memory.

Its well possible there was a less tolerant batch of GDDR6 chips, for example. This would also explain why different vendors have problems and why it suddenly pops up. I find that more likely than Nvidia supplying broken chips; after all what's a memory chip versus the largest consumer SKU you've ever had. You check the latter, not the former.

 

[JalleR]

I owned three of them. I like the 970. That doesn’t change this: It was an issue. A huge misstep they tried to hide. If it wasn’t a big deal, there would not have been the huge payout they agreed to do. Don’t minimize it just because you are blinded by brand loyalty.

There are people here and elsewhere convinced there is a coverup (I don’t, but I recognize that many do). Had that not happened, Nvidia might currently have more credibility in their denial.

i have 2 970 in my house and have no issues with the 4GB of SLOW memory, BUT YES Nvidia got off easy regarding the 970...

 

[Vayra86]

i have 2 970 in my house and have no issues with the 4GB of SLOW memory, BUT YES Nvidia got off easy regarding the 970...

Ironically its you missing the right facts, its 3.5GB of fast, and 0.5GB of slow memory. Hence 3.5GB of useful memory in my original statement that you flew off the handle for. Full caps don't change that either, sorry.

 

[ppn]

RTX with a 754mm2 GPU should cost no more than $754 for full fat 384 bit bus and 4608 CUDA. same for 545mm2 cards, but the thing is that when those big 12nm dies get shrinked to 8nm, we are looking at soon to be 399 and 266 mm2 dies.. like GTX 280 65nm and 6 months later shrinked to GTX 285 55nm. Or more like GTX 460, since 65nm to 40nm shrink describes more accurately what is about to happen.. So forget about prices, it is irrelevant if you have it, enjoy the moment then sell before is too late.

 

[JalleR]

So the last .5gb is not usefull ?

 

[eidairaman1]

So the last .5gb is not usefull ?

Yup its slower than molasses

 

[cucker tarlson]

So the last .5gb is not usefull ?

technically it is,but you don't want to see that in action.

 

[The Quim Reaper]

Yup its slower than molasses

Only in very limited circumstances and selected games.

I have a 970 and when I played Battlefield 4, I could fill the VRAM buffer up to 3.85GB with 1440p max settings and 4xMSAA and frame rates were the same as when i turned settings down to get it under 3.5GB VRAM.

Whether you suffered slow down from the slower 0.5GB was entirely dependant on which graphics engine was being used, and from memory, Ubisoft titles were the most susceptible.

For 9 out 10 games, the slower RAM was not an issue.

 

[Salty_sandwich]

just got back with Beer so now I'll sit back and enjoy the ride, funny how people think it's not a massive issue get hounded ... oh well case of they can shout louder i say

 

[JalleR]

Not even sure where this primitive caveman speak is going or what it even says. Lots of insults and cursing though....

I just didnt like your comment "Don’t minimize it just because you are blinded by brand loyalty." you think you know but you don't..

 

[EarthDog]

just got back with Beer so now I'll sit back and enjoy the ride, funny how people think it's not a massive issue get hounded ... oh well case of they can shout louder i say

Shit show baby... nothing new here.

Both sides of the coin are damned if you have an opinion different than others......even if it makes sense and isn't speculation based on..................??????????????

 

[Salty_sandwich]

well I have to say it .... it almost feels as if the people who don't own or maybe can't afford the card (but in truth really want one but left feeling all salty about the price) are more worried about this than those who own the the card and have issues, funny old world .

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Trust Nvidia to downplay any issues like as if it's going to affect overall sales of the card when its already been proven as bad value for money compared to the generation of cards it is replacing so its already selling badly.

It reminds me of the steamed hams sketch from the simpsons

Steamed Hams but There's a Different Animator Every 13 Seconds

<<Kitchens on fire>>
Chalmers (Consumers): "Good lord!!! what is happening in there!???"
Skinner (Nvidia): "Aurora Borealis!!"

 

[f22a4bandit]

My friend ended up having to RMA his 2080ti and received a refund instead because of short supply. Not exactly a smooth launch so far.

 

[Salty_sandwich]

OR could it be ......................... those pesky Russian's ? the plot thickens .....

I think I counted around 12 people so far that's had issues, from posts i found, any real hard data base on how Massive this problem is now ?

oh feel free to count and ad to the number ... lets do this LOL

Bit off topic but its still a Massive issue ... me chicken's burnt ... so if you add up all the people who burnt their chicken today, it really is becoming a Massive isssue ...

Darn those Russian's ...

 

[c12038]

will stick with my trusty GTX 780 works fine for all the games I want to play why go too the expense of buying a RTX card having it fail and be with out a PC to do any gaming or other stuffs.

Your made to pay £1000 having to find out its a flop

 

[unikin]

RTX release was a joke from day one. Wait till 3Q 2019 and you will get RTX on 7 nm dies for decent prices as response to AMD 7 nm Vega mid range launch. Mark my words, you will be able to get NVidia's RTX 2070 7nm equivalent for 400 $ and AMDs 7nm "Vega 64" for 350 $. RTX 2080 performance cards probably for 500 $ but 2080TI will stay expensive as AMD will not have high end answer till 2020 if at all. Now is the worse time to buy GPU (ok cryptocraze was even worse). It's NVidia's consumer milking season till AMD comes out with 7nm gaming GPUs. If AMD can't deliver GTX 2070 performance for 350 $, Nvidia's higher end milking season will continue throughout 2019.

 

[RH92]

In a world with no standards and expectation whatsoever, sure. But we have some of those.

You can have all standards and expectations you want it's not going to save you from making errors . In this world making errors is the natural process of evolution for humans .... so yeah unless you don't live in the same world ....